MrCaliaztec
Member
Thinking I'll restart since only a few missions in. He seriously just makes me cringe and whenever he talks I am just like....
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Dragon Quest Heroes |OT| - The World Tree's Woe and Some Heroes We Know
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Thinking I'll restart since only a few missions in. He seriously just makes me cringe and whenever he talks I am just like....
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
PLAY AS HEALIX WHEN
I normally hate the sidekick too. Teddy can go fuck himself.
I normally hate the sidekick too. Teddy can go fuck himself.
I'm pretty sure the unused characters gain EXP at a reduced rate while they are idle, I've not used anyone outside of the initial 4 and everyone I've unlocked is in the low 20's now.
TheSpoiler
Member
Alena is great, but she needs to have that Divide active at all times. Plus her dodge isn't as effective as Terry's.
Doric is great if you use him as support. He's really meant to buff your tension and take on certain types of enemies. Oh, and draw in large groups. His normals don't seem all the effective but his specials/spells are good, and he has enough MP to burn through a bunch without being limited.
Kiryl, I just use spells all the time. His lighting attack has huge range, his whack when upgraded can level half a mob, and his running spear attack easily stuns. Plus, that defensive buff is damn near necessary for glass cannon people.
That's encouraging news. I'm only level 18 or 19 and didn't notice my idle characters gaining, but maybe I just missed it.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
At what point in the game are skill points used? Am I missing something?
My primary 4 characters (Luceus, Terry, Alena, Kiryl) are all around level 27 and I'm at
but I still haven't figured out how to allocate skill points to my characters. At this point I have nearly 100 points to spend.
My primary 4 characters (Luceus, Terry, Alena, Kiryl) are all around level 27 and I'm at
the Yggdrasil tree level
Nestled_Grizzly
Member
Hit options, go to misc, then hit allocate skill points. Only can be done in the hub.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Isla is so fucking OP jeez
Just took out 8 mid bosses and 50 troops at once with one flaming power woosh LOL
Just took out 8 mid bosses and 50 troops at once with one flaming power woosh LOL
Dude is about to get a massive buff on all his characters.
LegendOfGood
Member
Anybody on GAF currently streaming? 
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Thanks, I figured I was missing something. I guess I just expected them to introduce that at some point.
lol yep. I thought the game seemed kinda hard...
sensui-tomo
Member
Duuuuude..... You have no idea what you've been missing on those characters if you havent allocated points.
What? There is an official Dragon Quest youtube channel? Why? What are there only like 4 vids? Or is it just a bunch of Japanese footage with the video description saying "Never Ever"?
Anybody on GAF currently streaming?
http://www.twitch.tv/etroanime
Streaming for about 20-30 minutes
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Anybody on GAF currently streaming?
http://www.twitch.tv/qistoptier
Should be streaming for the next 8 hours
Dead Prince
Banned
8 hours.0_0
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Anybody on GAF currently streaming?
I did for a little while earlier, but it's up on YouTube now. There is a period of about 20 minutes in there where nothing happens because I was on my phone with a friend.
Middle of story mode, some spoilers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gktvni_hIBQ
Liquid Dust
Member
Bout to start soon, somebody give me the run down in a few bullets as to why Aurora is boss choice.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Freezing stuff is super good.
Though it depends on what mage you want to use.
Jessica use luceus.
Isla use Aurora
Nera any
For story reasons Aurora is just a cooler character.
Liquid Dust
Member
I am a sucker for DQ8 characters, seems like Jessica is the only character that can heal using magic from what i can understand. Other than that why would I want to pair her with Luceus' fire magic? Can she perform freeze or daze spells?
pock3tmonster
Banned
Liferebooted
Banned
Only 3 hours in and loving it but I have 2 big complaints. First off the characters voices all suck, and the maps are so small and short =\ I hope the map problem fixes itself with some progress though.
TheSpoiler
Member
"Pointless Upgrade Path"
LMAO
That's how you define your characters, your moves, and get new skills.
Into the trash it goes.
DQH, for better or for worse, plays out like an RPG in some manners. The battles you fight are more like condensed random battles into one map. There are bigger maps, but for the most part, most of them are smaller than your average DW game.
Personally, I like the maps smaller, considering you have to rush back to protect things if you fuck up. Some of the maps have better design, like there's a maze style one as they march up the side. The ones where you just fight things are usually the worst.
pock3tmonster
Banned
I haven't played it yet, it's not released here until tomorrow, but everything I've read here has made the upgrade trees seem crucial to creating a balanced team. Hardly pointless.
Doesn't really read all that scathing to me.
robotzombie
Member
So, who are the stand out party members in everyones' opinions? And second to that, what should you spend skill points on for said characters?
So far I've just been sticking mostly to Terry, Alena, and Kiryl just because I like them the most. But Jessica seems like she'd be pretty worthwhile to have on the team...
So far I've just been sticking mostly to Terry, Alena, and Kiryl just because I like them the most. But Jessica seems like she'd be pretty worthwhile to have on the team...
pock3tmonster
Banned
Probably me reading too much into the tone.
Liferebooted
Banned
Anyone else having issues with goo weapons dlc? I'm playing at Aurura and got all my goo weapons except for the main guy...luca or whatever his crazy name is.. Unless they share the same weapon and they only give you one of it which is on my character.. if so thats kinda dumb
That's what it is. Wouldn't worry about it because you'll toss 'em real quick like.
TheSpoiler
Member
They all have their purpose. You really can't go wrong with any of them. I think Terry takes more work to get going, and Yangus isn't tank-y enough, but other than that it's pretty balanced.
I'm running Alena, Terry, Jessica, or Dorian, Alena, and Isla. Haven't really used the last two new ones but they seem like they are pretty good.
It's just annoying to see another review not care about the mechanics and just blaze through the game for a review. But ah, it's IGN, so it doesn't matter.
DeVeAn
Member
That would help for sure.
Wow that IGN review is garbage. The upgrade tree is important and the comments on weapons, I guess he didn't bother to use any alchemy or actually achieve any of the good weapons and judging by his half assed review I'm pretty sure he didn't bother with any of the post game story or even attempted to fight the hard mode bosses.
The game doesn't end with the last mission and the credtis roll there is more after this sounds like he pushed out a half assed review because it's out and they are late with it. I'm sorry but the game is not the hardest in the world but the way he talks about it makes it seem like the whole thing is a cake walk which it isn't.
The game doesn't end with the last mission and the credtis roll there is more after this sounds like he pushed out a half assed review because it's out and they are late with it. I'm sorry but the game is not the hardest in the world but the way he talks about it makes it seem like the whole thing is a cake walk which it isn't.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Yeah Jessica has Ice magic as her main spell
It was written by Tom McShea. He's one of the most notoriously unskilled reviewers in gaming media. Almost every one of his reviews contains at least one statement about the game in question that's verifiably untrue.
Of course it matters. IGN has a huge readership, and at a glance I can see several comments on the review to the effect of "Sad to hear this isn't a good game; guess I won't buy it now." DQ is a franchise that can ill afford unfairly bad reviews from sleepwalking reviewers in major publications.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Primethius
Banned
Is it too much to hope for a 30FPS lock?
The fluctuating FPS is my only annoyance with a game that I've otherwise enjoyed greatly so far.
The fluctuating FPS is my only annoyance with a game that I've otherwise enjoyed greatly so far.
I agree with all of this. Especially about the review, it's almost like that reviewer didn't understand the game they were playing.
sublimit
Banned
I was going to wait for a few months before i bought the game (the musou aspect initially turned me off) but after watching some videos i changed my mind and i'll probably get the game tomorrow.Can't believe that i'll finally play a new DQ game on my tv (the last was Swords ages ago.)The game's art direction looks very beautiful from what i've seen in videos so i can't wait to see how it will look on my tv!
The reviewer was a little harsh, but he's kind of describing one of the problems with musou's in general.
Fodder enemies are dumb on purpose, because if there was really dozens of enemies all going apeshit on you, there would be no gameplay. They're more like living buffers you can't allow yourself to get too comfortable being surrounded by as you avoid the more dangerous captain monsters.
I'm also not sure how much of a difference the stat talents are actually making between my characters. The armor system is reduced to orbs (to avoid modeling armor) which gives you three orb types each unlock but everyone can equip every orb so you ignore most of them and equip everyone with the best one.
All of this stuff can be handwaved as not necessary to perfect in the series first entry, but it's worth noticing.
Fodder enemies are dumb on purpose, because if there was really dozens of enemies all going apeshit on you, there would be no gameplay. They're more like living buffers you can't allow yourself to get too comfortable being surrounded by as you avoid the more dangerous captain monsters.
I'm also not sure how much of a difference the stat talents are actually making between my characters. The armor system is reduced to orbs (to avoid modeling armor) which gives you three orb types each unlock but everyone can equip every orb so you ignore most of them and equip everyone with the best one.
All of this stuff can be handwaved as not necessary to perfect in the series first entry, but it's worth noticing.
second day, just hit 8 hours. The game became a lot more better, the first 5 hour was a little too on the easy side. But right now everything start to become much more challenging, got my first quest failed on a sidequest defence mission. When they throw you 5-6 freaking monkey with a giant king slime and a troll at the same time, thing can get really crazy !
I'm really looking foward for the rest of the game, other then the generic story, everything else is really well done !
I'm really looking foward for the rest of the game, other then the generic story, everything else is really well done !
TheSpoiler
Member
They are definitely making a huge difference per character. It's very easy to tell the difference between even Dorian without any defense upgrades to one that has them without in later levels.
Same goes for the movesets. Upgrading certain moves gives them far better range and properties than before. Like Isla's tornadoes double up and cover more area.
I even thought the "effect on critical hit" stuff was useless, but when you hit a weakspot or gain a normal crit, you get a sizable buff for a few seconds. That is easily seen when the numbers pop up.
If anything, I'd like there to be even more stuff to play with, and I'm already excited for the sequel.
One of the npc's in the hub explains how to spend those points. You probably never chatted him up.