360. It's not game breaking, but the frame rate on the PS3 version is pretty bad.
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Dragon's Dogma Demo Impressions
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360. It's not game breaking, but the frame rate on the PS3 version is pretty bad.
Nope, you could only talk to her at an inn and make her adapt to a certain playstyle, like aggressive, defensive, and such, not sure what all the options there are though. Then there's the dpad commands.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
Everyone please remember as well that as far as the Pawns are concerned you only HAVE to take your pawn with you. And i'm sure there are measures you can take to have them hang back ... but there is absolutely nothing forcing you to use all 3.
You can give them orders like help or come here, but nothing else.
Btw, my pawn attempt
(Casca from Berserk)
Vicetrailia
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Just beat it, the Griffin battle was way funner than the Chimera.
Pawn:
Nice. My character isn't quite as hot, but I try (I favor dark hair). Other than trying to make a black guy (not easy), I think i'll avoiding tweaking much since the game doesn't really care about how good my peoples look at all (lol).
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Windom Earle
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Agreed on the framerate... On the other hand the stick movement felt a bit off to me on 360 and it seems to be more blurry. Really undecided on this. And letterbox on both consoles if for shame.
RPGCrazied
Member
Yeah, the tearing looked pretty bad on 360. To me anyways.
Meccanical
Member
Huh, I just noticed that if an enemy knocks you into the water, you get wet and your lantern goes out.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Asked yesterday but didn't see a reply. Any way to edit the UI for the game? The mini map and stuff is all pushed in towards the center of the screen like it is formatted for 4:3.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Menu screen under options. You can remove all UI
Yeah, the PS3 version is more than fine. On the 6 times I have played it so far on PS3, I have yet to have the framerate chug like some are claiming. Anyone in doubt, just look at footage on Youtube if you can't be bothered to DL the demo. It looks good, runs great and has zero tearing. But both versions are close enough that it is really not worth splitting hairs over. Can't go wrong either way.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
So...I played the 360 demo. A number of people are talking about the "tearing". I honestly don't know what people are talking about...although I honestly don't know what to look for.
What am I not seeing here?
Meccanical
Member
I really have no idea what people are talking about withe the framerate dropping and screen tearing.
I guess we're lucky, I don't know.
Also, what is letterboxing and why is it bad?
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Well, I did see that, but I don't want to remove the mini map, just move it to the left about 2". I know some games (MW3) have options to re-size the UI per your screen.
I did turn off combat text though, that was a massive screen blocker.
HoodWinked
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mt framework has an issue with increased tearing if you use console upscaling. if you set the xbox to 720p and let your tv upscale it, the amount of tearing should reduce.
indigo-cyclops
Member
My god I absolutely LOVE this fucking game. Played demo on both, and didn't notice much of a difference technically. Now I need to figure out which system to get it on. The combat is incredibly fun, especially using the rogue(?) - the fast attacks is exhilarating. It really does remind me of Monster Hunter, but I feel like I'll be able to get into this much easier.
The black lines at the top and bottom of the screen like you see in widescreen films. I think those with plasma television sets are worried about image retention and that is why some are complaining. Others may just find it annoying for whatever reason, but I am so used to seeing it in movies, that I did not even notice it. Even if it is being used in a game.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Oh I misunderstood your question. It looks like the UI items can only be enabled or disabled and not repositioned.
I probably wouldn't have noticed the letterboxing if I hadn't read about it beforehand.
Not an issue for me.
I hope for a PC version.
Not an issue for me.
I hope for a PC version.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I had a 720 TV and saw no tearing.. this must explain it.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
There is definitely a new game+ ... they talk about it in the streams a few times.
Level cap=200
My guess for the trophies list (which i haven't seen yet ... link?) would be certain milestones and monsters? ... should be interesting.
Also... it's kind of funny to hear complaints of it being simple or a hack n slash as simple hacking and button mashing will get you killed in the game proper and the only reason you get away with in the demo is that your characters are pretty OP. I was kind of on the fence with the whole "The demo is not a good rep for the game itself..." idea... and while i stick by some of my reservations (that you would have to be intentionally ignorant when it comes to the fact that it's an open world RPG) ... it might actually have some validity when it comes to the difficulty of the gameplay. I would imagine that mashing buttons and not thinking through your encounters will get you killed just about as fast as in Dark/Demon's souls... Hell .. if you backtrack to 1-1 after destroying 99% of Demon's Souls the enemies are like flies. If that was the demo for that game people could easily say "You just mash buttons and win this game is stupid" and move on ...
You won't get away with that shit here. Just like you won't there. Quote me on it.
Level cap=200
My guess for the trophies list (which i haven't seen yet ... link?) would be certain milestones and monsters? ... should be interesting.
Also... it's kind of funny to hear complaints of it being simple or a hack n slash as simple hacking and button mashing will get you killed in the game proper and the only reason you get away with in the demo is that your characters are pretty OP. I was kind of on the fence with the whole "The demo is not a good rep for the game itself..." idea... and while i stick by some of my reservations (that you would have to be intentionally ignorant when it comes to the fact that it's an open world RPG) ... it might actually have some validity when it comes to the difficulty of the gameplay. I would imagine that mashing buttons and not thinking through your encounters will get you killed just about as fast as in Dark/Demon's souls... Hell .. if you backtrack to 1-1 after destroying 99% of Demon's Souls the enemies are like flies. If that was the demo for that game people could easily say "You just mash buttons and win this game is stupid" and move on ...
You won't get away with that shit here. Just like you won't there. Quote me on it.
RPGCrazied
Member
burgerdog from here made a video of the screen tearing. Even on 720p. I could see it, clear as day.
I have no idea why Capcom insists on V-syncing the game on PS3 when the FPS keeps dropping so much. At least I didn't feel it's completely unplayable though.
Gameplay-wise, still a bit undecided. The game screams of potential, but the two short scenarios in the demo left me somewhat underwhelmed. I hoped it would grab me as quickly as Demon's Souls did, but nada.
Gameplay-wise, still a bit undecided. The game screams of potential, but the two short scenarios in the demo left me somewhat underwhelmed. I hoped it would grab me as quickly as Demon's Souls did, but nada.
WorstUsernameEver
Member
Going by the impressions in this thread I was expecting much worse.. honestly, I'm not sure I've got a feel of the combat system yet, there's a nice array of abilities and options, but the lack of lock on and of a dodging mechanic for all classes (strider has one but the warrior dude doesn't? that's.. weird), plus the fact that the pawns do all the work... it was strangely fun, but I honestly have no idea if it's going to be a good game. Honestly.
Okay, this post reads really badly, but I'm confused about this game, 'mkay?
Okay, this post reads really badly, but I'm confused about this game, 'mkay?
RPGCrazied
Member
Cause they are smart. Everyone should vsync their games. I can't believe not many feel that it makes a game completely ugly. Even if the game is triple A, if it has tearing, it goes back to the store.
People see what they want to see or they simply don't know what to look for. Nobody has these super awesome OC'ed 360s that don't tear and ps3s that don't drop frames.
Meccanical
Member
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
I read your post ... then looked at your avi and started to quote... then read your username and had a lawl. Well done.
I'm not saying there was NO frame skipping/dropping at all in my multiple playthroughs... but I am definitely saying it's not some chug-fest that ruins the game as some people seem to be implying. I drop a few frames when the dragon shoots his fireball (even though i can smoothly run through said fire even as the effect is finishing without jumping or skipping an animation the entire time..) and perhaps when there are all 3 of my pawns and a chimera attacking/moving/jumping and I try to pan the view 180 past them...
Even still.. no where near unplayable. Just like you say .. people see what they want to see. If you notice a framedrop/screen tearing and you don't want to like the game already ... then it's so bad it's an experience crippling fault when to the most of us.. it simply is not that large an obstacle to enjoying the game.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
I was pretty much in on day one when I saw that I had to add more oil to my lantern.
That level of micromanagement makes my gamer-heart go pit-a-pat.
Well said. Everyone who has had extensive hands-on have made it clear that while not quite as brutal as the Souls series can be, it will still easily beat you down if you venture out into over-leveled territory or do not have your party balanced properly for certain encounters. The game will require both learning and planning in order to progress, and that is why there is only one difficulty.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
I had an easier time solo'ing the Chimera than when I had a full party; it seemed to always go after me when I had pawns, but just lumbered about when I was by myself.
Found a big rock out in the field and chucked it at the Griffin. lol
Found a big rock out in the field and chucked it at the Griffin. lol
RPGCrazied
Member
PS3 version has no tearing. All versions have the black bars though.
Same here. (although I'm not usually into the genre, so I was on the fence anyway).
I'll try out the ps3 demo to see if its more bearable. Technical issues aside game looks great.
Fighter has a block and a parry though!
Toss the pawns and go through the prologue again, it'll probably give you a better idea on the combat and enemy designs
You can use pawns as a silver member.
Block didn't use any stamina against normal enemies. I'm not sure about on big ones, but I don't think it did. Also, weirdly enough, you keep regaining stamina as usual when you roll around as a Strider.
I despise tearing, but I despise chugging framerates even more. One may be ugly but I feel the other fully impacts the playability of the game, and in extreme cases like Blighttown in Dark Souls or the entirety of Shadow of the Colossus, it actually gives me a headache.
Well in a way you can choose, since the PS3 version does vsync and the 360 version does not.
And I'm going with 360 mostly due to that, vsync should be an option like it usually is on PC.
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
Just played it last night. For such a short demo I got a LOT out of it. I replayed the segments quite a bit!
THIS is how you do a RPG. No bullshit bad combat & clunky controls like The Witcher, no vanilla bland fighting like Skyrim.
A huge open world that looked & controlled absolutely beautifully! Hard & epic fights. Strategy & ease of gameplay. Everything flowed.
This is the first game since Dark Souls That I am super hyped about. I literally couldn't resume playing my save of the Witcher 2 after the demo. It just feels outdated after playing something so much better.
THIS is how you do a RPG. No bullshit bad combat & clunky controls like The Witcher, no vanilla bland fighting like Skyrim.
A huge open world that looked & controlled absolutely beautifully! Hard & epic fights. Strategy & ease of gameplay. Everything flowed.
This is the first game since Dark Souls That I am super hyped about. I literally couldn't resume playing my save of the Witcher 2 after the demo. It just feels outdated after playing something so much better.
No staggering drops from what I saw... just a consistently low framerate. I'll have to check out the X360 demo to see how that one performs.
RPGCrazied
Member
People say sub hd. I think its for a more cinematic flare, like widescreen movies.
Metalmurphy
Member
You DON'T want to know. Seriously, don't look it up. You'll never see games in the same way again.
Revolutionary
Member
To deter plasma TV owners from playing it.
Seriously though, it's for performance reasons.
how is that kool-aid tasting?
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