I find personally that the lack of fast travel keeps those weaker mobs as something to be wary of a bit longer than I would expect. I went out for a quest it took practically an entire day/night cycle to complete and I was low on health and healing items and pretty much treated them with nearly same caution as the higher level monsters. The gap between player level and the level of the monsters is closed quite a bit if you had some tough and drawn out battles during your quest. I really feel the pressure lift off of me when I finally make it back to a safe zone with a place to rest and resupply.
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Dragon's Dogma |OT| For the night is dark and full of terrors
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Augemitbutter
Member
lol, guess i was too greedy. next time then.
Karak
Member
Hmm that is a good point. Even with planning and using shortcuts I am an explorer and so most baddies I engage with. So I do end up low on resources and such. I DO know that I feel a very real sense of relief when I finally make it to a safe place and can rest for a moment.
NoirVisage
Banned
Rather than trecking along a stretch of dangerous land, just go to the destination BEFORE the quest, drop a portal stone then get the quest and as soon as your charge appears with a blue healthbar, ferrystone out.. quest completed.
I asked earlier in the thread, but decided to just try it and lo and behold it works..
if you feel its cheating, i'd recommend waiting till NG+ to do escort missions..even at level 62 doing it normally its frustrating.
I asked earlier in the thread, but decided to just try it and lo and behold it works..
if you feel its cheating, i'd recommend waiting till NG+ to do escort missions..even at level 62 doing it normally its frustrating.
8-4 did Dragon's Dogma.
Oo, just got some more good ratings on my pawn. One guy gave me a skeleton key, all 5 stars and left a comment saying he's marked my pawn as a favorite.
I set him up earlier via the wisdom chairs to focus on mages and archers, and then after capping out fighter and warrior I changed him over to a ranger and stacked up the two strength buffs on him as well as other stuff to make him tougher.
His strength right now is massive and he does a fuck ton of damage - plus he gets rid of all those annoying long-range guys first AND he stays close to me. Was totally unintentional, but I somehow created the perfect pawn. He has not disappointed me in the slightest throughout the game.
I set him up earlier via the wisdom chairs to focus on mages and archers, and then after capping out fighter and warrior I changed him over to a ranger and stacked up the two strength buffs on him as well as other stuff to make him tougher.
His strength right now is massive and he does a fuck ton of damage - plus he gets rid of all those annoying long-range guys first AND he stays close to me. Was totally unintentional, but I somehow created the perfect pawn. He has not disappointed me in the slightest throughout the game.
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
What you want a is a linear game with no exploration.
Complaining that an open world game forces you to re-travel along areas is just stupid.
One thing that's been kind of weird to me is the prevalence of that one high-pitched female voice set. My pawn's female too, but I used one of the deeper voices for her and told her to use the Confident responses whenever she asked how she should respond to various situations. I've never recruited a single other pawn that talks exactly like her, which is crazy to me considering how few options there actually are to choose from in terms of pawn dialogue and how many pawns I've used over the course of the game.
My favorite pawn moment was when I fell to critical HP and issued the Help command and my pawn responded by scornfully saying "'Tis hardly befitting an Arisen."
I was all like "Oh shit, Mage-girl! Looks like I'm going to need some extra healing for that sick burn my pawn just laid on me!"
Honestly, she was right. It was just a pack of direwolves and snow harpies, and I fell to critical HP because I was screwing around. I have no excuse for my behavior.
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Deleted member 17706
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I have the North American copy of the game, but like many PS3 games, it's multilingual. It uses the system settings to detect the language. If you have your PS3 set to Japanese, many games will be in Japanese, for example.
Ah, cool. 8-4 did the localization for this? You work there, right?
Good job, if so! Like I said earlier, whoever localized the game definitely took an extremely liberal approach with the translations. It works great in this game where more literal translations would probably kill the atmosphere. It's just really distracting playing with Japanese text, since it's often quite different from the English voices.
Do you guys have professional writers/editors on your staff, or do the people who translate the Japanese handle all of that, too? Very talented folks!
NoirVisage
Banned
people want this to be a game that its not, fast travel IS available, you just have to pay for the luxury..knowing what enemies are where will be a blessing if you decide to venture all over in the post game. You are NOT ready.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Press start and save/quit option, choose to exit the game without saving. Or load last checkpoint from when you last slept at an inn.
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Deleted member 17706
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Honestly, I'm glad that fast travel is limited and costly. This whole argument reminds me of the Dead Rising saved game system. I'm a strong believer in having some tedium and risk in video games. It's why I loved the older school MMORPGs and games like this and the Dark/Demon's Souls games.
It forces the player to make decisions and plan things out. It forces them to be more invested in what they are doing and just more aware of where they are overall. I think that, in doing so, it makes the whole experience a lot more memorable and "valuable". That's how it is to me at least. I realize it could get annoying if all of the encounters are the same and you're level 50+ or something, but 10 hours in at least, I completely love how travel is handled. You need to make sure you stop at waypoints and inns along the way to rest until morning if you don't want to get caught out in the middle of nowhere when night falls.
It forces the player to make decisions and plan things out. It forces them to be more invested in what they are doing and just more aware of where they are overall. I think that, in doing so, it makes the whole experience a lot more memorable and "valuable". That's how it is to me at least. I realize it could get annoying if all of the encounters are the same and you're level 50+ or something, but 10 hours in at least, I completely love how travel is handled. You need to make sure you stop at waypoints and inns along the way to rest until morning if you don't want to get caught out in the middle of nowhere when night falls.
I'm waiting now. Just got 2 escorts killed past few days here. Fucking ogre ambushes me during one and stomps my "charge" to death. Funny looking back now. Not so funny right after it happens.
Karak
Member
No sir. Never that I could find.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
You can cancel escort quests by simply going to any quest board and choosing to abandon the quest. You can re-select it at any time, so it's not gone forever.
Non-escort quests, I don't think you can cancel.
Non-escort quests, I don't think you can cancel.
PrinceOfApathy
Banned
The Fast Travel whiners on this thread are down right all encompassing embarrassing.
XANDER CAGE
Member
Oh, silly me!
No, that's not what I want at all. Please actually read my posts, I think I've made my opinions about the open world (both gripes and things I like) more than clear.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
I get what you mean - the travel system in this game irks you; it's understandable, but there are ways around it. I know it can get tedious, but if you get far along enough you can make use of Port Crystals. You can place PCs anywhere in the world map and you can teleport there using Ferrystones.
XANDER CAGE
Member
That does sound a bit better, although still a bit frustratingly limiting. What level/point in the story do you start seeing them?
PrinceOfApathy
Banned
That would be too hard for them. I commend you on trying to explain in a dignified fashion, but all I'm reading from the detractors is " waaaah, waaaaaah, I have to work for it...waaaaaah"
Baconsammy
Banned
The argument never falls apart. What exists is terrible and is not a replacement for real fast travel. It's a lame setup that I hope to god they change in the sequel (if there is a sequel).
They're not enough.
XANDER CAGE
Member
What the fuck even is your problem, man? You're acting like I'm demanding Capcom patch in Skyrim's fast travel system. None of my complaints about the game have been about it being "too hard" or anything. There's actually been a pretty good back-and-forth discussion in this thread without any of this peanut gallery garbage.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Half-way through the main story you can get one free Port Crystal at the top of Bluemoon Tower, but I think a merchant sells PCs for 200k each (not sure who, though but I did see them for sale). I recommend heading to Cassardis right after you get a PC and place it right outside the gate. I think the trek from Gran Soren to the Cassardis area is the most tedious, so I placed one PC there. I'm thinking of getting one more PC to place near Bluemoon Tower so I got Southwest and Northeast covered.
Jugendstil
Member
Does anyone know exactly what influences increase in Vocation rank? I'm sort of stalled out on the last two ranks of Strider. I read that if you fight bigger baddies, you go up faster, but I'm having trouble killing anything big. I ended up moving over to Magic Archer for bit, but not having those last two ranks for Strider really irks the completest in me.
Ferrystones become available as soon as you reach Gran Soren, but until you get a Portcrystal you can only use them to immediately return to Gran Soren. One is found lying on the ground outside of the Pawn's Guild and respawns every few days. More can be purchased from Fournival for 10,000 gold apiece or from Mountebank at the Black Cat for 20,000 gold apiece.
You'll get your first Portcrystal after fighting a boss in one of the main plot quests. Specifically,
it's at the top of Bluemoon Tower in the room where you fight the boss.
When you start New Game+ you can just buy as many Portcrystals as you want. At that point you've effectively got a full-fledged fast travel system.
PrinceOfApathy
Banned
Wasn't generally targeted at you, look at the post above you to understand what mindset I find repulsive.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
It's not based on experience, that's for sure. I think it's based on the number of enemies you kill.
XANDER CAGE
Member
I'm pretty sure it's kills, and there might be some kills that are worth more than others. I ranked up twice in Strider within the span of like five minutes once during one fight with two cyclops (and some wolves).
Baconsammy
Banned
Too hard? I don't think anyone is complaining about the game being too hard. Many of us are complaining that the game is unnecessarily boring too often because we're forced to trudge over the same bland paths over and over and over. To boil that down to "durrr it's too hard for them" speaks to an inability to comprehend what people are actually talking about. If your idea of "working for it" is needlessly running past the same exact group of enemies behaving the same exact way over and over and over ad nauseum, then we clearly disagree on what makes a game good. I love a lot of the game, but a lot of it is also incredibly stupid or poorly made. We can disagree on which parts we like and dislike but dont be a fool and claim people are hating on the game because of the difficulty.
"God's Beard!"
Member
What I want in a sequel:
- R2 should be used more, like grabbing on to tree trunks to jump on stuff
- get rid of pawn commands and implement an item quick-select on the d-pad
- 2 player co-op with main pawns
- Hybrid Class Pawns
- Better versions of Ensnare that can take down big enemies if 3-4 characters are doing it
- More big enemies ^_^
Karak
Member
Exactly. The game is what it is. Play it or move on. Wishes are for the sequel. But discussion is for the thread. Sadly they usually devolve into people throwing around their opinions as facts then it becomes a fight.
Baconsammy
Banned
Rather than quick select on the Dpad, I'd rather have the ability to quick select any of our pawns' commands. Fighting an enemy that's weak to fire only to have the pawn with the fire ability just standing there like a fool not using fire can be frustrating.
Why, we're actually talking about Dragon's Dogma instead of the needless bashing of Skyrim that went on for numerous pages. It's a worthwhile discussion to have. Kinda wish more developers were as involved as the (former) Big Huge Games' devs that were actively participating in the Amalur thread.
Karak
Member
around 51 for the first playthrough. And 41 for the second and I am about 8 into my third.
It would also be nice to be able to command pawns NOT to use a certain element in a fight. I actually had to switch out fireboon from my main pawn's list of magick, he kept enchanting my weapon with that while I was fighting the drake near shadowfort -_-
PrinceOfApathy
Banned
I didn't mean hard as in difficult, I mean hard as in too much for the person to bare. The basis of this game is that nothing, or very little comes free. It rewards experimentation, broadening your scope of thinking and trying to find work arounds to beat the "system" so to speak. Too many people have the one button press, teleport fast travel at their disposal, and to add that to the game would be a dis-service of what its trying to accomplish. Seeing as many times you don't even have to engage the trash mobs, unless you want to get discipline points. The game out right tells you, it has no respect for your time, it cannibalises your time, and abuses it. So either it is for you, or it isn't.
You could always skim over the comments you are not interested in and give people the freedom to discuss whatever it is they want to.
This is why I can't be any other class than the Mystic Knight. Choosing when and where to enchantment you and your entire team with a specific enchantment is great. I love going out at night, seeing the skeleton warriors form, casting the Holly enchantment, and taking them out in a few hits.
Bought/found, there's no crafting. As you progress through the main quest line, the stores get new inventory.
Karak
Member
Man I hated that class for maybe 2 hours then it just clicked. Its wicked awesome.
XANDER CAGE
Member
And I don't think anyone has asked for one-button-teleport-anywhere fast travel. A page or so ago we were discussing whether or not adding some more travel waypoints (like carts you had to pay to ride, etc) to the map would alleviate some of the boredom of the A->B->A quest design.
I think most people here understand very well that the game is more about creating a travel experience. These "waaaaaah, waaaaaaaaah" whiners of yours don't really exist in this thread.
No new armor and weapons makes Grisby a sad cat. After 20 something hours I said screw it and finally entered the pawn encampment. At lvl33 Ima heading down to Everfall to investigate.
Roughly, about how many story quests or so are in the game would you say? Considering I'm just starting.
Roughly, about how many story quests or so are in the game would you say? Considering I'm just starting.
Until you get to the fifth rank, you have no idea just how strong this class is. At level 37 you become a DPS Tank, destroying entire mobs before your pawns can even touch them and bringing down Boss monsters in under a minute.
Karak
Member
When I really started to like it was when I got the sigil of Ruin. Oh man. Oh man oh man.