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Dragon's Dogma |OT| For the night is dark and full of terrors
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Maybe it's a friend? They're all free regardless of level.
Baconsammy
Banned
It's why I'm not enjoying it much at all anymore. There's currently 4 escort quests in the starting fishing village. To do each means I have to run there, do the escort which is very far away, then run all the way back to the fishing village. It's stupid game design.
What class is it? A squishy character is going to die easily regardless of level if enemies are pounding on them.
Baconsammy
Banned
Toss a pig at them and see what happens.
Mage of some sort, and yeah it might have been a friend. Pretty crazy, it's actually making the game a bit more enjoyable since it's not frustratingly hard any more.
Baconsammy
Banned
I wonder what the difference is between my tank going off and coming back with a couple hundred RCs and the times he's come back with 20+ thousand.
"looks like we're having pig tonight fellas!"
*tosses pig*
*a flurry of slashes*
*eighteen finely cut pieces of ham fall upon a plate*
About 40 hours into the game, first playthrough and taking my time. I am level 39 and I thought things were getting easy. Hadn't explored at all in certain regions of the map, but I was having a relatively easy time with most enemies in my regular travel spots; goblins, wolves, bandits, cyclops, etc.
Then I went to Bluemoon Tower........love this game.
Then I went to Bluemoon Tower........love this game.
Baconsammy
Banned
Nope. Much more fun than that.
Just put the Port Crystal down at Cassardis and use a Ferrystone to Fast Travel back at the end of each escort.
Baconsammy
Banned
Those dont exist in my game yet.
Cannon Goose
Member
I don't have the game yet, but I was thinking of being a Strider and progressing to an Assassin (sword and bow). Is this cool or would being a Fighter help me more in the end?
I don't want to say where you can get one, if you feel it's spoilerish, so I'll spoiler tag it.
You get one in Bluemoon Tower during/after the Quest "Griffon's Bane". It's a relatively early story quest (perhaps a little closer to the middle of the storyline?).
XANDER CAGE
Member
Honestly the lack of fast travel wouldn't bug me so much if every enemy encounter didn't happen in the exact same place every time. Doing the quests around Gran Soren and such, I've memorized every goblin pack, wolf attack, etc... it's really droll. It doesn't help that the game throws enemies at you all the time. I know you can run past low-level stuff, but it's still kind of annoying - I've tried setting my pawn to be as passive as possible because he really likes to engage fucking everything.
But yeah, the escort missions really highlight why some form of fast travel might be nice. Cart rides maybe? I appreciate what they're going for; Skyrim totally lost its luster after a while with the ability to travel from anywhere, but god damn if trekking around the same roads doesn't get boring after a while.
The pre-planned nature of a lot of the open world is turning me off a little bit, actually. I did an escort mission for Mercedes where, halfway up the road,
a griffon appeared overhead.
a griffon attacked in the exact same spot in the road,
On the other hand, that careful game design does mean that there are usually much more interesting things to find if you go off exploring, as opposed to the glorious nothingness that inhabits 90% of an Elder Scrolls or Amalur or whatever.
I had something really similar happen where I
collected the evidence and turned down the dude in Cassardis
that it was just Reynard out wandering about and mucking up my quest markers.
He and I are no longer on speaking terms because of that.
Did you
turn in any of the condemnations, and did you get all of the legitimate petitions for his release on top of the fake ones
Fournival's supposed to be really hard to get acquitted
three legit petitions for release, one witness in his favor, and two forged petitions for his release, which was enough to get him off the hook. Aldous never even laid eyes on a single piece of negative evidence.
I just unlocked
Duchess in Distress
Deny Salvation
Aldous, started Deny Salvation, and saw the Duchess' maid hanging out with a bubble over her head on the way out and picked up Duchess in Distress. It didn't automatically fail.
It sounds like that quest has a really narrow window of opportunity. I appreciate the indirect hint about which of my two major quests I should tackle first though. Your sacrifice is not in vain.
Cart travel would have been great. There should be carts at Cassardis, Gran Soren, The Great Wall, and maybe The Blighted Manse.
Haha, I just went with what I purchased. Should have figured it'd be harder than that. Something to keep in mind for a NG+, thanks.
XANDER CAGE
Member
Also I can't believe that there's a fucking tooltip in the game that pops up every now and then telling you about DLC.
Manmademan
Member
no, that's what daggers are for.
holy crap just found the golem..that was hard
my first was a damn ambush. nearly killed me (as a magic archer). i was barely scratching it. I switched to ranger and ran into the one in the witchwood, and owned the thing all over the place.
Those popups became annoying in general. I turned off the tutorial messages, and haven't gotten any about DLC, either.
holy crap just found the golem..that was hard
Golems are extremely easy if you're a Ranger. Ten Fold Arrow on those medals, and they go down like nothing.
XANDER CAGE
Member
I left them on because I think they're pretty helpful, but I've seen the DLC one about three times. Talk about ballsy.
Yeah, they definitely were at first. Eventually all they were was "If you come to an impasse in your quest, mark it a priority" and the DLC plug.
Karak
Gold Member
Sadly thats a quest design issue and not the lack of fast travel, but I think everyone agrees there are some issues with the quests. Maybe with a sequel they will get the quests done correctly. Or add mounts. I certainly hope they don't add a fast travel to the sequel even with the price of the stones it can be seriously misused.
Baconsammy
Banned
Yeah, I'm really starting to see all the problems the game has that it got dinged for in many reviews. Walking the same exact paths over and over and over and facing the same exact enemies in the same exact place who exhibit the same exact behavior over and over. The game is great fun when I'm experiencing new locations, but unfortunately the majority of the game has been spent going over the same damn territory repeatedly, and quite honestly the terrain isn't all that interesting, and after about 5 hours you've pretty much seen every enemy the game has to offer.
When it's an option *you* have an option not to use it.
Yeah, I've turned off tutorial messages and that fucking message still is popping up. I don't want your damn haircuts and fetch quests, Capcom.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Who did they commission to localize this game? Does Capcom have an in-house localization staff? Honestly, a lot of it feels like the English was written as the primary language. I started out playing it in Japanese, and a lot of the text was very different from what was being said in English. Honestly, it got kind of distracting, so right now I'm playing in all English, and the localized names are really excellent. Considering how much Capcom gets a bad rap for their localizations, I'm quite impressed.
evilromero
Member
I'm a HUGE fan of Dark Souls and Song of Ice and Fire. Main question, will I enjoy this?
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
I should damn well hope so. The writing style certainly seems heavily influenced by how GRRM writes, and there are a lot of things that should give you a Dark Souls vibe.
It's got it's fair share of flaws, but it's really an excellent game.
XANDER CAGE
Member
I'm pretty sure the entire game was written in English and is subtitled in Japan.
This. Aren't a lot of Capcom's games done this way?
Baconsammy
Banned
No on both counts. The story is garbage, the dialogue is crap. Nothing at all like George's masterpiece. As for Dark Souls, nope. Dark Souls requires vigilance from start to finish. Around level 15 in this game you'll start to feel like a god. You can let your guard down and just be stupid etc, which you can rarely if ever do in a Souls game. I don't view that as a negative against DD though. I didn't go into this wanting a Souls game.
I have to say that one thing I really like is that when you go to a shopkeeper to upgrade your armor and weapons, you don't need your materials with you. They'll pull them out of storage for you.
evilromero
Member
That's pretty awesome. I'm excited to try it out.
Karak
Gold Member
Ya I think thats why I like it so much. When the option is there you will take it. When its not there you have to work around it.
Yes!
Manmademan
Member
yeah, this is up your alley, though it really doesn't have much in common with ASOIAF except for some of the language/dialogue.
The storyline is not the strong point here- there's no deep conspiracies or political intrigue to be had- just exploration and sidequests galore.
the game is a solid 8/10 for me, which by no means is a bad thing. Dark Souls is the better game in just about every area i can think of, though.
evilromero
Member
I figured it would be hard to top Dark Souls but I'm still intrigued. Thanks!
Baconsammy
Banned
Working around the boredom means for many of us simply not doing anymore of the quests that require us to be bored again. The choice would mean you could do those quests without fast travel, and I could still do them with fast travel. Make a rule that says you cant fast travel at night and keep the danger, but for god's f***ing sake stop making me travel the same boring stretches of road 10-20 times. Where Dark Souls was such a huge success was level design. It took a long time to get many places, but once you got there shortcuts opened up to make subsequent travel there much faster. This game needs that.
Karak
Gold Member
There is a lot of Darksouls vibe but after beating this and Darksouls finally I have to say I enjoy the combat a great deal more and just the general gameplay in DD much more.
As for the story. Its not super. Its ok at best. However, some of the quests are very interesting(others not so much), but no the story isn't that great. The gameplay is in my opinion.
Is there any fast travel that doesn't cost 20k gold?
Spending 20 minutes running past/killing easy wolves/goblins is enough for me to say fuck it and not even bother turning the quest in.
This and Dark Souls are perfect examples of games I think are amazing one minute (basically the boss/epic battles in both games) and complete and utter garbage the rest of it.
As for the ASOIAF fan? Maybe, but it won't be for the story. The few story heavy moments have been really poor so far and I would be shocked if any of the political intrigue from the series had any influence or resemblance to anything from the game. Shield/swords and shit though /shrug.
Spending 20 minutes running past/killing easy wolves/goblins is enough for me to say fuck it and not even bother turning the quest in.
This and Dark Souls are perfect examples of games I think are amazing one minute (basically the boss/epic battles in both games) and complete and utter garbage the rest of it.
As for the ASOIAF fan? Maybe, but it won't be for the story. The few story heavy moments have been really poor so far and I would be shocked if any of the political intrigue from the series had any influence or resemblance to anything from the game. Shield/swords and shit though /shrug.
XANDER CAGE
Member
Similar atmosphere but the story is paper-thin nonsense that's barely there 90% of the time. I like the combat a lot, but it's not very Dark Souls-ish. Much faster and looser.
Karak
Gold Member
Ya everyone has their own opinion on it for sure but it is what it is and the game we are playing is what we have. If its boring there are tons of games to play. Then maybe a sequel will fix the quests. And hopefully have a better more in depth story!
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnope.
Manmademan
Member
you can buy the stones for 10k from the merchant in the noble quarter.
on top of that, there's another item that can be found during the griffin quest that allows you to set another waypoint to fast travel to.
set that waypoint at one of the out of the way spots, and you cut your travel time significantly.