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Dragon's Dogma |OT| For the night is dark and full of terrors

Kikarian

Member
Automaton is the skill. You get a 70% boost to magic and physical damage when not with any Pawns, and it is absolutely broken I have more than 4K strength with it active and at night.
Wow, that is broken. Still going to lean to the Assassin vocation.
 
and i say "who cares?". I mean, is it really that important? The main thing behind the term is, that we can communicate about the things after... and before ... between ... you know what i mean. what should it be called? happy hour?
chamber farming? apocalypse now? soylent green sky?
O,o

It should be called Dragon's Dogma, or Dragon's Dogma's last part. I don't know; gamers always find ways to name certain parts of the game without spoiling. It can be Part II if you're really picky (or Part III, or Part IV, depending on how you'd separate the game--or how the guide could have separated the game). But post-game sounds misleading. In a way I am happy about that, though, since I thought I was all done at one point but I am clearly not.
 

deim0s

Member
Ok, end-game/post-game questions:

Thinking I should've stocked-up on items before meeting the Duke. Felt bad for the guy, feebly waving his sword like that, then I introduced my shield to his face. :p

So... branded as a traitor to Gransys, everyone ran away - even the shopkeepers! Well, except for the pawn's guild area, but there's no one to buy curatives from! Are there merchants in Everfall to buy ferrystones and some old weapons and armor? Would want to experience the 'changed' world a bit before focusing on Everfall.

Am glad that I (at the least) got the duchess in the end, not some creepy unexpected LI that others got.

Just checked and reloaded my game, seems that I'm stuck with the
post-duke meeting/Everfall part
. Damn, these single saves.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
Ok, end-game/post-game questions:

Thinking I should've stocked-up on items before meeting the Duke. Felt bad for the guy, feebly waving his sword like that, then I introduced my shield to his face. :p

So... branded as a traitor to Gransys, everyone ran away - even the shopkeepers! Well, except for the pawn's guild area, but there's no one to buy curatives from! Are there merchants in Everfall to buy ferrystones and some old weapons and armor? Would want to experience the 'changed' world a bit before focusing on Everfall.

Am glad that I (at the least) got the duchess in the end, not some creepy unexpected LI that others got.

Just checked and reloaded my game, seems that I'm stuck with the
post-duke meeting/Everfall part
. Damn, these single saves.

All the vendors are still there. Some might have changed locations (Inn, Black Cat) but they are all there in the city.
 
Ok, end-game/post-game questions:

Thinking I should've stocked-up on items before meeting the Duke. Felt bad for the guy, feebly waving his sword like that, then I introduced my shield to his face. :p

So... branded as a traitor to Gransys, everyone ran away - even the shopkeepers! Well, except for the pawn's guild area, but there's no one to buy curatives from! Are there merchants in Everfall to buy ferrystones and some old weapons and armor? Would want to experience the 'changed' world a bit before focusing on Everfall.

Am glad that I (at the least) got the duchess in the end, not some creepy unexpected LI that others got.

Just checked and reloaded my game, seems that I'm stuck with the
post-duke meeting/Everfall part
. Damn, these single saves.

Hmm. The two merchants in the fountain square should still be there.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Post game is rough on your character's bank account. I never needed to buy shit in the actual game but now everything is insanely expensive.
 

Arcteryx

Member
Just picked up the guide an typed these up real quick, cut out some of the lesser loot and I think I missed/mislabeled a chamber so I'll clean it up later tonight

Chamber of Confusion:
Chest 1 =
100% Ferrystone
Chest 2 =
4% Golden Talisman
6% Dragon Hide Bracers
4% Grisly Skull
4% Crimson Plate
4% Exotic High Boots
4% Ring of Pearl

Chamber of Anxiety:
Chest 1 =
5% Meloirean Plate
5% Steel Gauntlets
2% Dragon's Presence
2% Philosopher's Robe
2% Burnished Bracers

Chamber of Absence:

Chest 1 =
4% Martyr's Talisman
5% Stalwart Bow
2% Dragon's Pain
2% Crimson Sabatons
2% Lordly Cloak
2% Shadow Gauntlets
Chest 2 =
6% Steel Sabatons
6% Noble Limbs
2% Sable Sentinel
2% Dragon Knight's Cloak
2% Ring of Amethyst
Chest 3 =
5% Meloirean Armguard
5% Laurel Circlet
2% Sage's Hood
2% Dragonbeards
2% Grisly Bone Armor
Chest 4 =
25% Wakestone Shard
2% Ferrystone
6% Dragon Band
6% Ringe of Sable
2% Red Dragon Scale
2% Shadow Gauntlets
2% Ring of Sapphire

Chamber of Hesitation:
Chest 1 =
4% Golden Ring
2% Platinum Ring
Chest 2 =
5% Steel Sallet
5% Darkened Gloves
2% Dragon's Quickening
2% Twilight Manicae
2% Dignified Earring
Chest 3 =
6% Sultry Cowl
2% Barbarian Chief's Helm
2% Fey Whisper
2% Dark Lorica
2% Ring of Ruby

Chamber of Remorse:
Chest 1 =
4% Golden Ring
2% Platinum Ring
Chest 2 =
4% Superior Cuisses
4% Ring of Argent
2% Bloody Thistle
2% Crimson Armet
2% Golden Wristbands
Chest 3 =
same as Chest 1
Chest 4 =
same as Chest 1
Chest 5 =
same as Chest 1
Chest 6 =
5% Chilling Razors
2% Carnation
2% Golden Lion Helm
2% Exotic High Boots
2% Ancient Cape

Chamber of Tragedy:
Chest 1 =
5% Superior Cuisses
5% Golden Belt
2% Ring of Amethyst
2% Golden Lion Padding
2% Dark Buckler
Chest 2 =
5% Steel Cuirass
5% Direwolf Veil
2% Fey Whisper
2% Diadem
2% Matte Robe
Chest 3 =
5% Royal Cuisses
5% Dark Over-Knee Boots
2% Dragon's Risen
2% Dragonscale Armband
2% Nebula Cape
Chest 4 =
5% Sultry Pareo
5% Autumn Hood
2% Wounded Heart
2% Gleaming Bangles
2% Grisly Greaves
Chest 5 =
5% Stalwart Bow
5% Harmonious Earring
2% Dragon Knight's Helm
2% Shadow Greaves
2% Ancient Cape
Chest 6 =
5% Dragon Hide Bracers
5% Meloirean Cyclops Veil
2% Ring of Onyx
2% Crimson Plate
2% Holy Cuisses
Chest 7 =
5% Steel Sabatons
5% Indomitable Earring
2% Sable Sentinel
2% Crimson Gauntlets
2% Ring of Pearl

Chamber of Fate:
Chest 1 =
6% Saving Grace
2% Barbarian Chief's Helm
2% Frigid Finger
2% Grisly Skull
2% Benevolent Earring
Chest 2 =
6% Angel's Sanctum
6% Royal Cuisses
2% Dragon's Presence
2% Dark Lorica
2% Dragon Knight's Cloak
Chest 3 =
5% Darkened Gloves
2% Dark Buckler
2% Shadow Gaunlets
2% Lordly Cloak
Chest 4 =
5% Crossed Cinquedea
5% Royal Surcoat
2% Dragon's Quickening
2% Ancient Cape
2% Ringe of Sapphire
Chest 5 =
5% Dragon's Den
5% Chilling Razors
2% Savage Fang
2% Carmine Breeches
2% Indomitable Earring
Chest 6 =
5% Unfettered Claw
5% Direwolf Veil
2% Dragon's Risen
2% Dragonroar
2% Crimson Sabatons
Chest 7 =
5% Cyclops Sigil
2% Red Dragon Scale
2% Golden Lion Padding
2% Dragonblood
Chest 8 =
5% Meloirean Helm
5% Molten Boots
2% Twilight Greaves
2% Philosopher's Robe
2% Ring of Ruby
Chest 9 =
5% Indomitable Earring
5% Meloirean Cyclops Veil
2% Crimson Armet
2% Grisly Bracers
2% Twilight Mask

Chamber of Distress:
Chest 1 =
5% Harmonious Earring
5% Golden Belt
2% Bloody Thistle
2% Exotic High Boots
2% Nebula Cape
Chest 2 =
5% Unfettered Claw
2% Sage's Hood
2% Crimson Plate
2% Golden Wristbands
Chest 3 =
5% Meloirean Armguards
5% Feral Cape
2% Dragon's Pain
2% Golden Lion Helm
2% Grisly Bracers
Chest 4 =
5% Noble Earring
5% Royal Surcoat
2% Twilight Manicae
2% Dragonbears
2% Ring of Pearl
Chest 5 =
5% Noble Limbs
2% Berserkin
2% Carnation
2% Dragonscale Arm
2% Dignified Earring

Chamber of Estrangement:
Chest 1 =
6% Dignified Earring
2% Barbarian Chief's Helm
2% Burnished Bracers
2% Diadem
2% Ring of Sapphire
Chest 2 =
Golden/Platinum rings
Chest 3 =
see Chest 2
Chest 4 =
see Chest 2
Chest 5 =
see Chest 2
Chest 6 =
5% Stalwart Earring
2% Crimson Gauntlets
2% Twilight Mask
2% Carmine Breeches
2% Ring of Onyx
Chest 7 =
5% Divine Surcoat
5% Meloirean Greaves
2% Wounded Heart
2% Grisly Greaves
2% Ancient Cape
Chest 8 =
5% Dragon Band
5% Molten Boots
2% Matte Robe
2% Berserkin
2% Dragonblood
Chest 9 =
5% Cyclops Sigil
5% Angel's Sanctum
2% Dragon's Presence
2% Dragon Knight's Helm
2% Holy Cuisses
Chest 10 =
5% Flame Skirt
5% Royal Mantle
2% Savage Fang
2% Gleaming Bangles
2% Ring of Ruby

Chamber of Woe:
Chest 1 =
6% Threaded Cudgel
2% Sable Sentinel
2% Grisly Bone Armor
2% Shadow Greaves
2% Lordly Cloak

Chamber of Resolution:
Chest 1 =
5% Steel Cuirass
2% Frigid Finger
2% Crimson Sabatons
2% Ring of Amethyst
2% Golden Lion Padding
Chest 2 =
2% Dragon Knight's Helm
2% Dragon's Pain
2% Twilight Manicae
Chest 3 =
2% Dragonroar
2% Wounded Heart
2% Twilight Greaves
2% Crimson Gauntlets

Chamber of Inspiration:

Chest 1 =
5% Saving Grace
2% Dark Buckler
2% Dragonroar
2% Red Dragon Scale

Chamber of Hope:
Chest 1 =
5% Divine Surcoat
2% Twilight Mask
2% Gleaming Bangles
2% Berserkin
2% Grisly Greaves
Chest 2 =
5% Meloirean Helm
2% Grisly Skull
2% Crimson Plate
2% Exotic High Boots
2% Ring of Pearl
Chest 3 =
5% Feral Cape
2% Barbarian Chief's Helm
2% Dragon's Pain
2% Savage Fang
2% Diadem
Chest 4 =
5% Dragon's Den
2% Benevolent Earring
2% Sable Sentinel
2% Crimson Armet
2% Golden Wristbands
Chest 5 =
5% Dignified Cape
2% Dragon's Risen
2% Burnished Bracers
2% Lordly Cloak
2% Dark Lorica
Chest 6 =
5% Solar Providence
5% Royal Mantle
2% Frigid Finger
2% Fey Whisper
2% Dragonbeards
2% Dragon Knight's Helm
Chest 7 =
5% Sultry Cowl
2% Bloody Thistle
2% Lordly Cloak
2% Carmine Breeches
2% Golden Lion Padding
Chest 8 =
5% Threaded Cudgel
2% Wounded Heart
2% Dark Buckler
2% Philosopher's Robe
2% Grisly Skull
Chest 9 =
5 Herald's Helix
2% Dragon's Quickening
2% Dragon Knight's Cloak
2% Golden Lion Helm
2% Ring of Onyx
Chest 10 =
5% Sultry Pareo
2% Carnation
2% Shadow Greaves
2% Dragonscale Arm
2% Nebula Cape
Chest 11 =
5% Meloirean Plate
2% Dragon's Presence
2% Sage's Hood
2% Grisly Bone Armor
2% Holy Cuisses

Chamber of Sorrow:

Chest 1 =
5% Solar Providence
2% Carnation
2% Twilight Manicae
2% Sage's Hood
Chest 2 =
5% Crimson Robe
2% Crimson Armet
2% Exotic High Boots
2% Berserkin
2% Frigid Finger
Chest 3 =
5% Laurel Circlet
2% Matte Robe
2% Holy Cuisses
2% Dragon's Risen
Chest 4 =
5% Dark Over-Knee Boots
2% Fey Whisper
2% Grisly Skull
2% Crimson Sabatons
2% Red Dragon Scale
Chest 5 =
5% Dignified Cape
2% Burnished Bracers
2% Grisly Bone Armor
2% Dragonroar
2% Savage Fang
Chest 6 =
5% Herald's Helix
2% Twilight Greaves
2% Golden Wristbands
2% Grisly Bracers
2% Dragon Knight's Cloak
Chest 7 =
7% Crimson Robe
2% Dragonbeards
2% Diadem
2% Twilight Mask
2% Nebula Cape
Chest 8 =
5% Crossed Cinquedea
2% Philosopher's Robe
2% Crimson Gauntlets
2% Grisly Greaves
2% Dragonblood
Chest 9 =
5% Autumn Hood
2% Bloody Thistle
2% Carmine Breeches
2% Dark Lorica
Chest 10 =
5% Merloirean Greaves
2% Golden Lion Helm
2% Shadow Gauntlets
2% Dragonscale Arm
Chest 11 =
5% Steel Gauntlets
2% Dragonblood
2% Dragon's Quickening
2% Crimson Plate
2% Gleaming Bangles
 
Went to 5 stores today to find this. Out of stock everywhere.

Went to Amazon.ca...sold out.

Game must be selling better than anticipated. This happened with Demon's Souls too.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
So in the everfall going through the rooms I find a lot of doors that are like.. barred shut. Is that normal? I swear I've checked chests (especially in sorrow a few times) and have yet to get any decent loot except off drops from big ol monsters...
 

Vamphuntr

Member
So in the everfall going through the rooms I find a lot of doors that are like.. barred shut. Is that normal? I swear I've checked chests (especially in sorrow a few times) and have yet to get any decent loot except off drops from big ol monsters...

Yes. The doors are blocked because it's the same copy pasta rooms used in the dungeon... Good loots are fairly rare, 2-5% for each chest. Otherwise you either get curatives or wakestone shard in chests.
 

Arcteryx

Member
Yep, the game just re-uses the rooms, so that's why some are blocked and others are open. As for chests, you just need to do one of two things:
A) save in front of the chest, open it, if it's what you want, profit; if it's something else, use the
sword in your inventory to suicide
an retry until you get what you want
B) if the chests are near an entrance, open the chest, if it's what you want, profit; otherwise, don't pick it up, run out, run back in, repeat until you get what you want.

Option B is usually faster, but you have to almost do it without pawns, as they have a tendency to snatch up everything before you can run back outside.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
Yep, the game just re-uses the rooms, so that's why some are blocked and others are open. As for chests, you just need to do one of two things:
A) save in front of the chest, open it, if it's what you want, profit; if it's something else, use the
sword in your inventory to suicide
an retry until you get what you want
B) if the chests are near an entrance, open the chest, if it's what you want, profit; otherwise, don't pick it up, run out, run back in, repeat until you get what you want.

Option B is usually faster, but you have to almost do it without pawns, as they have a tendency to snatch up everything before you can run back outside.

genius. Will be doing this tonight if time permits without a doubt. Assassin build comes in handy for yet another tactic!
 
Because
it does not seem post game to me. Post game usually means the story is done, and there are tinier quests and additional things to do afterwards. That's certainly true here, but the the fight with the dragon is clearly not the end of the main plot.
I'd say the official guide, which I have, is wrong.

you're wrong, the point of Dragon Dogmas campaign was to ultimately
slay the dragon, hunting the most dangerous "game", its over when the "game" is killed, and what follows is the post "game", where you can keep playing to get the true ending.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
Forgot to even mention this in all my excitement for the everfall last night BUT ..
who else here is guilty of killing 40/50/60+ guards before they figured out you needed to go over to the Everfall hole?

cause... i killed a lot. (went to the north entrance and all the way up the wall and then back down and out again through town. Literally the longest possible way I could have taken it. Infinite respawning 70exp guards urverywur..
 
The witchwood chick, Selene I think. We've been in fights with massive enemies, with trolls, golems, ogres, griffons, chimeras... even a drake! Little bitch keeps on truckin' along, always somehow barely avoiding death. I think she quite enjoys the adventure! I don't want to lead her to her place :(

ha! that has to be a record! I have a feeling a story mission might auto fail the quest banishing her, enjoy her presence as long as you can.
 
Oh God...just saw your post Arcteryx, got a boner from the loot, I have no idea what any of those Chambers are, but its great. I'm currently doing the quest in the mine to clear out the Trolls after opening the gates. Its so satisfying going back and actually doing damage to these creatures, the first time I stumbled upon them was looking for a shortcut back to Gran Soren after the Knight Bren I believe his name is wanted to be escorted to the Shadow Forte, and I had to run like crazy!
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
Oh God...just saw your post Arcteryx, got a boner from the loot, I have no idea what any of those Chambers are, but its great. I'm currently doing the quest in the mine to clear out the Trolls after opening the gates. Its so satisfying going back and actually doing damage to these creatures, the first time I stumbled upon them was looking for a shortcut back to Gran Soren after the Knight Bren I believe his name is wanted to be escorted to the Shadow Forte, and I had to run like crazy!

More so than any other game... especially any other RPG i've ever played... the feeling of advancement and just getting BETTER at the game -controls, stats, gear everything - is so far and ahead of anything else i've played. From stumbling through the dark scared out of my mind hoping I don't run into anything and then almost dropping the controller when a Cyclops slams his club down in front of you before you even knew he was there.... to sprinting through the dark on purpose on the HUNT for chimera and cyclops... so satisfying.
 
I keep hearing people talking about the Forgery store, but I can't find it in Gran Soren. I want to forge the Tome I got from the Bandits Fort, but its never open.
 

FoeHammer

Member
Game is absolutely amazing.

GamerTag: PWelch

If anyone wants to help out a moron that screwed up the gold idol quest and gift him a shiny new one, please recruit my poor abused pawn and shower her with affection.
 

Arcteryx

Member
So does anyone know 100% how gifting works? I had zero issues yesterday/over the weekend(sent 3 items yesterday to 3 people, sent 4 items to one person over the weekend).

I'm seeing conflicting things on what causes it(saving at various points vs not saving before releasing the pawn).
 
pretty sure it's always open. are you sure you're looking in the right spot?

Ok, I'm officially semi-borderline-retarded. I found it, i was looking in the dead wrong area. Decided its not worth forging a book for the 37,000 and change just so I can call down a Meteor Shower for one time use. I saved before I used it, realised what it did and just loaded over....bah...
 
Ok, I'm officially semi-borderline-retarded. I found it, i was looking in the dead wrong area. Decided its not worth forging a book for the 37,000 and change just so I can call down a Meteor Shower for one time use. I saved before I used it, realised what it did and just loaded over....bah...

at the end of the day I forged very few things.

The duke's ring, and the idols (for their discount, I didn't turn them in).

gold idol is phenomenally expensive to forge vs. silver though.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
So does anyone know 100% how gifting works? I had zero issues yesterday/over the weekend(sent 3 items yesterday to 3 people, sent 4 items to one person over the weekend).

I'm seeing conflicting things on what causes it(saving at various points vs not saving before releasing the pawn).

Was just about to PM you to let you know my naked strider pawn was ready to receive your gifts (rawr) ... and noticed i didn't have anything yet. Almost made a sad face. Anyways... i'm sure i'll get LOTS of points while my boy is weapon/armor-less so take your time! I gotta run again but i'll be back again later this eve. Was in the bottom left corner of the map when I loaded... had to kill two drakes out of principle on my way to Gran Soren :D
 

Grisby

Member
How do I get into the Blighted Manse? Also I take it getting a quest called "The Final Battle' means I'm at the end of the game finally?
 
How do I get into the Blighted Manse? Also I take it getting a quest called "The Final Battle' means I'm at the end of the game finally?
You missed your chance for the Blighted Manse. It's part of
the duchess'
quest line, and it has to be done before you go to the Greatwall.
 

Arcteryx

Member
Was just about to PM you to let you know my naked strider pawn was ready to receive your gifts (rawr) ... and noticed i didn't have anything yet. Almost made a sad face. Anyways... i'm sure i'll get LOTS of points while my boy is weapon/armor-less so take your time! I gotta run again but i'll be back again later this eve. Was in the bottom left corner of the map when I loaded... had to kill two drakes out of principle on my way to Gran Soren :D

Alright, tried sending it to you, but you showed up as a Warrior :(, so I sent you some Warrior stuff instead. Hopefully it arrives!
 
Is there a way into Shadow Fort? I was on an escort mission from Cassardis to Shadow Fort. About halfway I was decimated by a Chimera (Level 16). The guy I was escorting (Adaro?) perished. My squad was in a bad way and I did not have many curatives left.

So we just ran into the general direction of the fort. Passed up several goblin mobs and a huge Dragon before making into the fort.

Am I missing something? Dreading having to venture back out ill supplied, I was hoping the Fort would let me rest or stock up on supplies.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
Alright, tried sending it to you, but you showed up as a Warrior :(, so I sent you some Warrior stuff instead. Hopefully it arrives!

Bah.. i changed to strider before I left the house. Erm... all i did was change and then stand there .. should i have loaded a new area or saved? And thank you! Vimes will be extremely grateful. He's a humble killer. (prayingforassassingearcausei'mgreedy .gif)
 

Arcteryx

Member
Bah.. i changed to strider before I left the house. Erm... all i did was change and then stand there .. should i have loaded a new area or saved? And thank you! Vimes will be extremely grateful. He's a humble killer. (prayingforassassingearcausei'mgreedy .gif)

Yea, I believe you need to save for it to update the pawn status to the server. Hopefully it will work, otherwise I'll try again later on when it's up.
 
Is there any specific things I need to know before starting this game? Stuff I can screw up bad or anything? I'd rather not follow any guides or such, just kind of want to jump right in. Any good tips in general would be great as well...
 

maomaoIYP

Member
Yea, I believe you need to save for it to update the pawn status to the server. Hopefully it will work, otherwise I'll try again later on when it's up.

Every time you sleep at an inn your pawn is uploaded. Otherwise nothing happens to your pawn on the servers.

Is there any specific things I need to know before starting this game? Stuff I can screw up bad or anything? I'd rather not follow any guides or such, just kind of want to jump right in. Any good tips in general would be great as well...

It's not really possible to screw up terribly in this game, except for failing escort quests. So if you do get those, do them immediately, don't stop to fight a cyclops or something, just run to the objective. And save as much as you can when you're out in the open.
 
Finished the main game. Not sure why some people said the story suddenly got good at the end. It didn't. It was pretty much blehh the whole way. The gameplay however was good most of the way with some real downers in having to trek long distances through low-level enemies over and over until you get tools that allow you to sometimes bypass it. Was hoping for a huge epic fight at the end, but what I got looked cool, but was far too easy.

Questions:

Much like I had an issue with sexing up the Duke's wife, him finding out and throwing me in jail and then every guard and the duke himself seemed to forget that I had done all that, I'm confused as to why the hell the guards aren't trying to kill me all the time now in the endgame. I get back from killing the dragon, Duke blames me and calls on his guards to kill me, they chase me to the pit. I jump in, and then I exit out of the pit via the Pawn guild location and now all the guards are back to being nice to me. What the hell? I'm also assuming the special sword I was given was to kill myself, which will lead to NG+ when I'm done messing in the Everfall?
 

maomaoIYP

Member
Much like I had an issue with sexing up the Duke's wife, him finding out and throwing me in jail and then every guard and the duke himself seemed to forget that I had done all that, I'm confused as to why the hell the guards aren't trying to kill me all the time now in the endgame. I get back from killing the dragon, Duke blames me and calls on his guards to kill me, they chase me to the pit. I jump in, and then I exit out of the pit via the Pawn guild location and now all the guards are back to being nice to me. What the hell? I'm also assuming the special sword I was given was to kill myself, which will lead to NG+ when I'm done messing in the Everfall?

The guards go all apeshit on me when I try to enter the castle (which I cannot anymore). Do the wakestone quest first, you will see what the godsbane is for, not going to spoil it for you.

edit: Or rather, don't complete the wakestone quest until you're ready to move into NG+. You won't be able to farm that place for high end loot once you've finished that quest.
 
I went out last night looking for trouble and was suprised to find that in Devil Fire the drake is actually the same kind/level beasty .. along with very low level goblins and such. Kind of threw me off as I was expecting an upgraded big bad and at the very least hell hounds or something. I did run into a Dark Chimera on my through the woods towards a Life Spring... but the Golems were also not any stronger.

Is there anything past the Southern fort? All that gray area screams for beasties but I haven't been back there since I cleared the gobs out ages ago.

There's actually a new drake south of the original one, in the area where the 2 cyclops were.
 
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