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[Clear]

Gave mine to Madeleine but didn't finish her questline.

Well yeah, you've got to max a character's affinity AND give the bond in addition to lock it. Its a point-based system.

I got Madeleine over Aelinore despite doing slightly less (no escort to buff up Aelinore, although I didn't retrieve Maddy's dagger).

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I hate how there's that jingle sound every time I talk to Asolom or whatever the innkeeper's name is at Gran Soren. Very awkward that he starts blushing and crap and I didn't even give him any presents.

Yep. For merchans/innkeepers, all you have to do is keep a flow of money going and they'll start to fall for you.

The short innkeeper at Cassardis kept blushing at me when I was doing the moldy carrot trick.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Well yeah, you've got to max a character's affinity AND give the bond in addition to lock it. Its a point-based system.

I got Madeleine over Aelinore despite doing slightly less (no escort to buff up Aelinore).

I already had her at max by that point. The game just prioritized someone else.

 

[Deified Data]

Doesn't giving Arisen's Bond lock the favoured NPC for the game cycle?

PS. Fuck you Valmiro, NG++ because of you!

I think some characters have precedence over even that. The Duchess seems to be the game's "favorite" - you have to actively try to get someone else, in my experience.

Well yeah, you've got to max a character's affinity AND give the bond in addition to lock it. Its a point-based system.

I got Madeleine over Aelinore despite doing slightly less (no escort to buff up Aelinore, although I didn't retrieve Maddy's dagger).

Arisen's Bond seems to max affinity by default - I'm not even sure if it does anything other than that, really. If it does, the game's "preference" for your chosen love interest is still far more influential.

 

[Clear]

I already had her at max by that point. The game just prioritized someone else.

I'm gonna try and force Selene this time... I'll let you know if I'm successful.

I think some characters have precedence over even that. The Duchess seems to be the game's "favorite" - you have to actively try to get someone else, in my experience.

As I posted, I maxed out the Duchess and finished her questline but didn't get her on my first run. So what you wrote definitely wasn't true for me, as I didn't even get the best result from Maddy's questline.

 

[PrinceOfApathy]

You don't! Max affinity is only noticeable by whether they are radiating pink waves and blushing when you talk to them. Just blushing won't do it.

Honestly I have so many of those. I did the Selene quest. Symone. Valmiro. I did tons of stuff for Quina and gave her the Arisens bond.

That means my Arisen is either going to be Straight, Gay or Pedophile deviant.

 

[Deified Data]

In essence, the only way to gaurentee your love interest is to make it so that they're the only one with max affinity for you, or that she's the Duchess.

 

[Hung Wei Lo]

You can buy a woman's dress in The Black Cat.

sorry to hijack, but I tried that and she still attacks me on sight...

 

[itzknickknac]

What are pros and cons if Fournival is

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found guilty or innocent

?

 

[edgefusion]

What are pros and cons if Fournival is

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found guilty or innocent

?

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If he's found guilty you can no longer buy the magnanimous cloak or cheap ferry stones. Don't let him be found guilty.

 

[Clear]

Fournival sells cheaper Ferrystones than The Black Cat. Limited quantity, but half the price or more.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

What are pros and cons if Fournival is

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found guilty or innocent

?

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Innocent: You can get the Golden idol from his daughter for the babysitting quest if you have not already
He sells you ferrystones and wakestones
He sells you a piece of equipment I have not seen anywhere else
You can do his eviction quest if you already haven't
You still get the quest money

Guilty: No real pros
You basically don't have to do anything for the quest
You can get Innocent without paying Reynard for falsified testimony but it's a little harder so it would save you some money.

 

[gdt]

Where is the key to the door in The Water God's Altar? Looked everywhere, and half the place is flooded. Beat the Ogre too.

 

[Augemitbutter]

Where is the key to the door in The Water God's Altar? Looked everywhere, and half the place is flooded. Beat the Ogre too.

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the cyclops you just killed dropped it.

 

[gdt]

I'm looking everywhere, can't find it. Doesn't seem to be in my peep's inventory either. The skeleton he left behind is gone now too. Grrr.

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I just stumbled in here, not part of a quest. Is that a problem? I see that this is a quest area later.

 

[Augemitbutter]

I'm looking everywhere, can't find it. Doesn't seem to be in my peep's inventory either. The skeleton he left behind is gone now too. Grrr.

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I just stumbled in here, not part of a quest. Is that a problem? I see that this is a quest area later.

i don't know if that's a problem. the key looks like an orb btw. check your pawns again?

 

[Augemitbutter]

As near as I can figure, the following quests will get you max affinity whether you want it or not:

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Duchess in Distress, Bad Business (if you give her the daggers and lie to the guards), and Valmiro's Goodbye. I think Aelinore takes priority over the rest. Some quests that will probably give you max affinity but also likely not take priority are Witch Hunt and Reynard's Business quest. It's strange that Selene is not a more common option because her ending dialogue (all two lines of it) is probably the best explanation for what actually happens.

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i got aelinore (duchess) for the dragon ending and madeleine for the true ending on my first playthrough. i think madeleine was the last person i got max. aff with.

i just watched selene ending on YT. that's kinda cool.

 

[vg260]

In the main game, you can get one portstone and very expensive but more common ferry stones to warp you to Gran Soren. You can lay the port stone anywhere and it will also be an option to warp to.

In the NG+, you get unlimited numbers of portstones but they're about 200k a pop.

Thanks! Any placement recommendations?

 

[itzknickknac]

Spoiler

Innocent: You can get the Golden idol from his daughter for the babysitting quest if you have not already
He sells you ferrystones and wakestones
He sells you a piece of equipment I have not seen anywhere else
You can do his eviction quest if you already haven't
You still get the quest money

Guilty: No real pros
You basically don't have to do anything for the quest
You can get Innocent without paying Reynard for falsified testimony but it's a little harder so it would save you some money.

Spoiler

If he's found guilty you can no longer buy the magnanimous cloak or cheap ferry stones. Don't let him be found guilty.

Thank you! I was wondering if there's benefits to either but I know my choice now!

 

[Augemitbutter]

Thanks! Any placement recommendations?

you can always pick it up and place it somewhere else. i placed mine at the encampment for easy quest boards access.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Thanks! Any placement recommendations?

Bluemoon Tower.

It is a long walk and you have to fight your way to/up there twice.

Another good place is, when you go through the Witchwood, there's an exit near Selene's house to a cliff outside Cassardis. Leaving the portstone on the cliff gives you easy access to Cassardis, the Witchwood, and the Encampment.

Great Wall is also useful at the end of the game.

 

[vg260]

Bluemoon Tower.

It is a long walk and you have to fight your way to/up there twice.

Another good place is, when you go through the Witchwood, there's an exit near Selene's house to a cliff outside Cassardis. Leaving the portstone on the cliff gives you easy access to Cassardis, the Witchwood, and the Encampment.

Great Wall is also useful at the end of the game.

you can always pick it up and place it somewhere else. i placed mine at the encampment for easy quest boards access.

aha cool.

Thanks again.

 

[Clear]

The smart thing to do is to farm a buttload of wakestones in your first playthrough and sell them (ideally with as many party members stacking Suasion as possible) in order to get the 10m gold trophy done. Don't blow out all your cash buying gear and leave yourself with a few mil to start in NG+.

At which point, go bananas buying port crystals and place them at every key location. Starting with those most amenable to completing escorts/quests is a good move as if you're questing heavily your money simply wont go down. I started my second run with about 4m, and now 119 quests into NG+ I've still got that amount of money!

I warp *everywhere*.

 

[kuroshiki]

It does, people are still judging the 8 day sales of this game against Diablo 3, and of course forgetting that NA isn't the world, My English thinks it will make its million.

Dragon's dogma doesn't seem like a title that has long legs like Soul series. It sold 450k in Japan, so maybe in world wide it will reach million. It is still a bomb when its target was 2 million.

I will be extremely surprised if it passes 1.5 million.

So before blame someone else's dictionary, make sure yours is the right one.

 

[Augemitbutter]

The smart thing to do is to farm a buttload of wakestones in your first playthrough and sell them (ideally with as many party members stacking Suasion as possible) in order to get the 10m gold trophy done. Don't blow out all your cash buying gear and leave yourself with a few mil to start in NG+.

At which point, go bananas buying port crystals and place them at every key location. Starting with those most amenable to completing escorts/quests is a good move as if you're questing heavily your money simply wont go down. I started my second run with about 4m, and now 119 quests into NG+ I've still got that amount of money!

I warp *everywhere*.

that's smart, but i only had 500k on me in NG+. the easy killquests that come naturally give you tons of cash in NG+. sometimes 500k or more. you'll have plenty of money without grinding.

 

[H3rTz DoNuT]

Dragon's dogma doesn't seem like a title that has long legs like Soul series. It sold 450k in Japan, so maybe in world wide it will reach million. It is still a bomb when its target was 2 million.

I will be extremely surprised if it passes 1.5 million.

So before blame someone else's dictionary, make sure yours is the right one.

I thought Capcom was aiming at 1,5 mil not 2mil hmm... I'm pretty sure it's gonna sell 1 mil though, might be hard to get 1,5 mil but we'll get the sequel regardless, Capcom invested to much in this IP already to make it one time deal only.

 

[Derrick01]

Just took down my first chimera with about 10 goblins chilling around us too. Also had an escort person with me so I was pretty terrified for the duration of the fight.

Feels good taking one of those fuckers down. Did I read it right earlier in this thread that there's only a small set number of those in the game?

 

[Torraz]

Just took down my first chimera with about 10 goblins chilling around us too. Also had an escort person with me so I was pretty terrified for the duration of the fight.

Feels good taking one of those fuckers down. Did I read it right earlier in this thread that there's only a small set number of those in the game?

Hah same thing. Then I had another escort and a cyclopse jumped me. He first killed my escort NPC and then I died sice I couldnt see anything because a bush was blocking my view .

No clue about the second part.

 

[Anteater]

Just took down my first chimera with about 10 goblins chilling around us too. Also had an escort person with me so I was pretty terrified for the duration of the fight.

Feels good taking one of those fuckers down. Did I read it right earlier in this thread that there's only a small set number of those in the game?

There's a set number of them but probably still the highest number out of the bigger mobs, next to maybe cyclops, so you could probably find them regularly

I kind of love fighting chimera, I just like those quick ground mobs

 

[Mastperf]

Just took down my first chimera with about 10 goblins chilling around us too. Also had an escort person with me so I was pretty terrified for the duration of the fight.

Feels good taking one of those fuckers down. Did I read it right earlier in this thread that there's only a small set number of those in the game?

They will respawn at certain spots depending on if it's day or night. Some will be there during both but others will be night only.

 

[brickface]

They don't stop. Gotta run out of there and then you can go back in uninterrupted. Trust me I spent almost 2 hours trying to kill that thing :\

looooooooooooooooool, this and other posts by you prove you suck at games.

 

[Derrick01]

There's a set number of them but probably still the highest number out of the bigger mobs, next to maybe cyclops, so you could probably find them regularly

I kind of love fighting chimera, I just like those quick ground mobs

Yeah I seem to run into these things every direction I go not far from the main city. This one was in the wilted forest. I'm just glad I'm strong enough to take them now.

looooooooooooooooool, this and other posts by you prove you suck at games.

Kind of a dick thing to say especially as I've breezed through far tougher games than this before. I was killing the shit out of that thing too I just didn't know it couldn't die. People were saying the pawns tell you to run but mine never said that so how the fuck was I supposed to know?

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

looooooooooooooooool, this and other posts by you prove you suck at games.

That's very rude. There are some parts of the game where you just have to run away.

 

[Mastperf]

looooooooooooooooool, this and other posts by you prove you suck at games.

The part he's talking about is unwinable and requires you to escape. I had the same problem he did with not knowing I was supposed to run. I went and changed character classes and leveled up more assuming the game was hard and that I wasn't powerful enough yet.

 

[NervousXtian]

When is this gonna go bomba price so I can play it.

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

When is this gonna go bomba price so I can play it.

Going by Asura's Wrath not going down to bomba prices... probably not any time soon. I think Asura's Wrath went on an unadvertised sale of $29.99 at Target for a week, but that's it.

 

[brickface]

Kind of a dick thing to say especially as I've breezed through far tougher games than this before. I was killing the shit out of that thing too I just didn't know it couldn't die. People were saying the pawns tell you to run but mine never said that so how the fuck was I supposed to know?

Yeah I'm sorry, I do apologise. It just seemed you were getting stuck on the fundamentals and panicking. I do hope you enjoy the game as it is awesome (I'm on my third play-through, or new game++)

 

[lupin23rd]

On my first run-through of the game, I found a notice board quest to kill 3 Gargoyles, but never did it and half-way throught NG+, I'm still not sure I've ever seen a Gargoyle?

Any ideas where they hang out? They're larger monsters, I assume?

 

[H3rTz DoNuT]

On my first run-through of the game, I found a notice board quest to kill 3 Gargoyles, but never did it and half-way throught NG+, I'm still not sure I've ever seen a Gargoyle?

Any ideas where they hang out? They're larger monsters, I assume?

You have two just outside of Gran Soren during the post game, you can also find them in Everfall, also post game. There is only one (I think) during the main part of the game and it's quest related. As for the size, Gargoyles are just a little bigger than Harpies

 

[Derrick01]

Yeah I'm sorry, I do apologise. It just seemed you were getting stuck on the fundamentals and panicking. I do hope you enjoy the game as it is awesome (I'm on my third play-through, or new game++)

It's no big deal.

I do kind of enjoy it, it's more like a love-hate relationship really. Like tonight I'm enjoying myself quite a bit though I'm struggling with choosing a quest to do. I have around 15 and they all seem to take me to different corners of the map that I haven't been to yet.

 

[Angelus Errare]

I suggest you just grab every quest off every notice board and do the ones nearest you.

 

[H3rTz DoNuT]

On my first run-through of the game, I found a notice board quest to kill 3 Gargoyles, but never did it and half-way throught NG+, I'm still not sure I've ever seen a Gargoyle?

Any ideas where they hang out? They're larger monsters, I assume?

Here is a Gargoyle picture for you

 

[brickface]

I do kind of enjoy it, it's more like a love-hate relationship really. Like tonight I'm enjoying myself quite a bit though I'm struggling with choosing a quest to do. I have around 15 and they all seem to take me to different corners of the map that I haven't been to yet.

Yeah the initial running about is a bit of a pain, but don't forget you can just run past the bigger monsters. And you'll eventually open up short cuts and fast travel bits. Oh and you can save when you're not in combat and continue, so if you see a massive bastard in the distance (if it's loaded that far lol) save it before and cull that abomination.*

*until you realise that you're not strong enough yet and have to run the feck away

 

[Noaloha]

Has anyone gotten a healthy amount of decent post-game loot without dicking around in try/fail/reload exploit?

Gaming the system through reloads on %-based chests is not my idea of a good time, so I've been rolling around just grabbing whatever crops up. I never want to see the word 'Harspud' again.

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

Has anyone gotten a healthy amount of decent post-game loot without dicking around in try/fail/reload exploit?

Gaming the system through reloads on %-based chests is not my idea of a good time, so I've been rolling around just grabbing whatever crops up. I never want to see the word 'Harspud' again.

I have. Just a stroke of luck, fella. Loot as much as you can, then sleep at the inn for 5 days or so to reset the treasures and try again.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Question

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the decision that Mason wants for you, what are the pros and cons of each?

 

[Derrick01]

I suggest you just grab every quest off every notice board and do the ones nearest you.

Yeah I'm pretty much doing that. Most of them seem to have me going pretty far now though so I'll just wing it I guess.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Question

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the decision that Mason wants for you, what are the pros and cons of each?

There's basically only one right decision.

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If you kill him, you don't lose the Chasing Shadows quest. If you don't kill him, Mason no longer shows up, and obviously no longer gives you quests. So as long as you do Chasing Shadows beforehand, it doesn't matter.

 

[TemplaerDude]

The Duke could stand to commission some new roads...

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

Question

Spoiler

the decision that Mason wants for you, what are the pros and cons of each?

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If you don't kill the Salavation leader, then Mason won't give you any other quests. His affinity drops if you don't kill the cultist, and he isn't seen around town anymore, and there is no cutscene equivalent of the one where you kill the cultist, but those are the only things that are affected by that decision.