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Dragon's Dogma |OT| For the night is dark and full of terrors

nyong

Banned
Is there any benefit to playing an Assassin with a sword but NOT the shield? I noticed some YouTube videos where someone was running around one-handing a sword while leaving the other hand empty.
 

Pumpkins

Member
Is there any benefit to playing an Assassin with a sword but NOT the shield? I noticed some YouTube videos where someone was running around one-handing a sword while leaving the other hand empty.

The only thing I can think of is less weight. Other than that, I dunno.

Is anyone kinda bummed about NG+? The enemies don't scale for NG+ like in Dark Souls...
 

lunchtoast

Member
Just beat the final boss. Now that's how you do a boss level. My ranger did shit as damage. My mage/sorcerer were dumb fucks and wouldn't give me ice affinity. When they eventually pulled out the big guns, they did major damage though.

What's going on with the ending? And why is this motherfucker making out with my character? I don't even know him. I should probably be paying attention to the story instead of posting here.

Oh, and where are these gargoyles at?
 

Kyon

Banned
I found that grimoire thingy on top of the castle tower. Does something bad happen if I forge it? A rift pawn is telling me I aught to.

Actually there is some use in actually giving him the real grimoire.
There is a quest to kill a Griffin that he will help in. So i suggest giving him the real one.
 
Second Playthrough its just me and my pawn. i switched her from a mage to a strider and i'm planning on letting her handle every thing tweaking her AI until she's a bulldozer with a wrecking ball attached..

I usually don't play new game plus but this game has me hooked.
 

joe2187

Banned
Why do I keep getting bullied by Gryphons? do they have a vendetta against me?

I was doing an escort mission with the arsmith im running ahead and I look behind me and a gryphon came down and just...ate him...just fucking ate him and killed him man, didnt harm any of the other party memebers just swooped down and killed him in one blow and flew off into the horizon...

Man
 
What's going on with the ending? And why is this motherfucker making out with my character? I don't even know him. I should probably be paying attention to the story instead of posting here.



Bro you think thats bad, my character ended up making out with Symone.

The girls like 8 years old.

There are no words to describe how I feel. I wish I would have gotten Mercedes, or Quina, or Selene, but nope ENDING RUINED.

Granted I think its my own fault.
 
Finally made a character design I quite like and I've been playing for a few hours. So far:

The Good:

-Dat theme music, couldn't stop laughing.
-So far the combat seems fun, especially climbing on dudes.
-I dig the pawn system. They repeat stuff a lot, but they also usually have legitimately useful things to say. I am going to turn the action camera off, though, because it switches EVERY TIME they grab someone, which is all the time.
-The controls work, and grabbing stuff is an interesting mechanic. I killed a few high-level bandits by stunning them and then tossing them off a cliff.

Less Good:

-The music. It's bad. I sort of wish the entire soundtrack was cheesy hair metal, it'd at least be more interesting than these tired chorals and synthesized orchestral flurries. Yawn.
-The graphics. Holy shit this game is ugly, both art-wise and technically. They seriously need to run this hot garbage in a letterboxed resolution? The character models are shite, the distant lands are blurry, the textures lack detail... really poor overall. It doesn't even run at a solid 30fps.
-I will reiterate: holy shit, these character models. They all look like they're from The Outfit.
-It's buggy as hell, although to be fair so are all of its contemporaries.

Gonna stick with it though, because I really wanna like it.
 

Dresden

Member
Is there any benefit to playing an Assassin with a sword but NOT the shield? I noticed some YouTube videos where someone was running around one-handing a sword while leaving the other hand empty.

You can use a bow instead of a shield, that's the only real benefit asides from the sword moveset.
 

Grisby

Member
I just read on GameFAQs that it won't work, but..

you get an achievement for forging a magic item

Anyone who saved 300,000 should now rent my pawn Hawkeye :D

Gamertag: Cth
Is that for forging any magic weapon? Like a sword?
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
I just read on GameFAQs that it won't work, but..

you get an achievement for forging a magic item

Anyone who saved 300,000 should now rent my pawn Hawkeye :D

Gamertag: Cth

Well shucks. I was hoping that shelling out that much cash would get me one that actually worked. Only having one is a bit rough. Had I two more I think I'd be able to set up a perfectly serviceable set of waypoints.

Ah well. Guess I should decide where to drop it soon, then.

When do I get to
meet the duke?
I haven't done all of those missions from the knight in Gran Soren, but I've done most I think. I knew about the idol quest, I just didn't know when I could unlock it :(. I have everything good bought from merchant in Gran Soren.

Also, about the idol worship quest..
who should I give the gold idol to? The guy, or the girl? Also..where is the silver idol?

edit: I'll add you Cth!

You get to
meet the Duke after finishing Maximilian's quests. I think you only need to finish two of the four before you get the option, but as soon as you meet the Duke the rest of the quests become inaccessible.

For the idols,
Caxton stocks weapons and shields, Madeleine stocks some daggers, armor, and accessories. From the list of items someone posted earlier it seems like Caxton's upgrades are quite a bit better than Madeleine's. I gave the gold to Caxton and the silver to Madeleine and I've got no regrets.

The silver idol is
a quest reward for a mission that appears on the notice board in the Gran Soren Pawn Guild. It only becomes available after meeting the Duke. It involves killing a cyclops at the Shadow Fort and isn't very hard at all, though the trip to the fort is a sizable trek if you haven't unlocked the quarry.

Speaking of which,
if you haven't unlocked the quarry shortcut then doing so gets you a new merchant who sells quite a few nice pieces of equipment. Head more or less due west of Gran Soren to find the quarry. If you find the Miner's Hut you're just north of it. There's a merchant at the entrance with a quest for you to clear out the quarry. You need to kill three ogres inside and when you do you'll get access to his shop as well as an extremely handy shortcut from Gran Soren to the Shadow Fort. This can all be done before your meeting with the Duke.

Is there any benefit to playing an Assassin with a sword but NOT the shield? I noticed some YouTube videos where someone was running around one-handing a sword while leaving the other hand empty.

The only real benefit would be if you're obsessive about keeping your weight down. There aren't any skills I know of that boost attack power from eschewing a shield, so I suspect the creator of those videos either had a compulsion about staying as light as possible or just wanted to be stylish.
 
Just beat the final boss. Now that's how you do a boss level. My ranger did shit as damage. My mage/sorcerer were dumb fucks and wouldn't give me ice affinity. When they eventually pulled out the big guns, they did major damage though.

What's going on with the ending? And why is this motherfucker making out with my character? I don't even know him. I should probably be paying attention to the story instead of posting here.

Oh, and where are these gargoyles at?

If you gave someone a "present" you raised their affinity towards you, the highest affinity person is the ending interest..the ending decision made me realize that the Duke was a real tool -__-
 
I... just brought down... a drake!

Apparently, it was a run-of-the-mill mini-dragon. Not the big guy that ate your heart.

But still, no easy feat at level 35-36. The two sub pawns were 40 but didn't fare better.
 

joe2187

Banned
This arsmith escort is really getting on my nerves not only did a gryphon attack again, (this time it flew away after attacking some bandits)

Usually I just run past the harpies since they're no longer a problem, now because he's so slow he stayed behind to play with the harpies and got picked up and thrown off a cliff and died.
 
Just beat the final boss. Now that's how you do a boss level. My ranger did shit as damage. My mage/sorcerer were dumb fucks and wouldn't give me ice affinity. When they eventually pulled out the big guns, they did major damage though.

What's going on with the ending? And why is this motherfucker making out with my character? I don't even know him. I should probably be paying attention to the story instead of posting here.

Oh, and where are these gargoyles at?

If you gave someone a "present" you raised their affinity towards you, the highest affinity person is the ending interest..the ending decision made me realize that the Duke was a real tool -__-

The way you guys are describing the ending, I feel I should let you in on something.
The Dragon isn't the final boss, and that certainly isn't the real ending.
 

CTE

Member
The only problem I have with the game is that the way NG+ and the class system works, in NG+ you are an unstoppable ruinous beast. I kind of expected enemies to scale up a little, Souls style. As such there's nothing in the game that's a threat save for the online Ur Dragon.

I mean, there's all these incentives to get better stats, abilities and gear, stuff that's borderline impossible to get the first time around, but nothing to actually use it on.

Not what I heard or read. NG+ is quite challenging according to some. I guess i'll see for myself eventually.


Is there any benefit to playing an Assassin with a sword but NOT the shield? I noticed some YouTube videos where someone was running around one-handing a sword while leaving the other hand empty.

You can equip a bow in the other hand and it rests on your back until you press the bumper to use it. I'm using assassin and love it. Go in for some close combat then drop back for some arrow shots.
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
I... just brought down... a drake!

Apparently, it was a run-of-the-mill mini-dragon. Not the big guy that ate your heart.

But still, no easy feat at level 35-36. The two sub pawns were 40 but didn't fare better.

A little bit ago I decided to give the drake a shot seeing as how I was in the area and all, and ended up shredding him in about 3 minutes.

Bit of an anti-climax. Mystic Knight is absurd.
 
Not what I heard or read. NG+ is quite challenging according to some. I guess i'll see for myself eventually.

It's exactly the same. I'm taking out Cyclops' in under 30 seconds. You're thinking of the
post game, but by the time I'm there again, that'll be trivial too.
 

ironcreed

Banned
Slayed the Drake at level 33 and got my Hunting Bow Dragon Forged. Talk about a great feeling. You feel so weak early on and come back later and get rewarded with your growth. That design philosophy never fails... at least for me.

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Xevren

Member
Yeah, the post game was vicious. But once you get around to it the second time around, it'll be much tamer.

I can't wait. I know I can breeze through the rest of the game but I'm being more thorough then usual with all the quests. I'm 49 and still havent done a lot of the main quests.
 

Jac_Solar

Member
Are there many different types of armor items in this game? I'm only lvl 24 at the moment, and the 'upgrade' armor cycle seemed to indicate that there are loads of armor items ingame, but the Gran Soren store hasn't updated their inventory since level 15 or so.

But the rest of the game seems to be mainly about dungeon/wilderness exploration, and not visitting towns. And since there are loads of items for making armor, will all the armor at higher levels come from creating it yourself? And/or will the various vendors fully re-stock their inventory at certain levels, or after certain events?
 
I can't wait. I know I can breeze through the rest of the game but I'm being more thorough then usual with all the quests. I'm 49 and still havent done a lot of the main quests.

If you're that high up then post game will be way easier. That's the level I beat it at.
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
No idea why people are forging them for 300k and they may not work when you can just BUY them from Black Cats for 200k in NG+

Because they're not in New Game+. This is a question with an incredibly simple answer.
 

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MeisaMcCaffrey
I never encountered a Drake till now, and I'm at level 45. Could it be the Wrym repellent fragrance that I have in my inventory?
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
Man, the
Bluemoon Tower
quest. I hate using the word "epic", but nothing else comes close to being able to describe it.

I love this game so much.
 
A little bit ago I decided to give the drake a shot seeing as how I was in the area and all, and ended up shredding him in about 3 minutes.

Bit of an anti-climax. Mystic Knight is absurd.

You must have been higher leveled than me. I'm currently Mystic Knight, with a main pawn sorcerer, a pawn mage, and pawn ranger, and we barely survived.
 
Went to buy this on Sunday at around 6:10 and everything after 6pm was closed.

All the flagship stores on Oxford Street was closed, Hamleys was clsoed, HMV Troc was closed. Fuck, Sundays are so shit, meh it was a sign. Gonna get this used now and under £20 plus some decent faqs will be out by then.
 

Kard8p3

Member
Well shucks. I was hoping that shelling out that much cash would get me one that actually worked. Only having one is a bit rough. Had I two more I think I'd be able to set up a perfectly serviceable set of waypoints.

Ah well. Guess I should decide where to drop it soon, then.



You get to
meet the Duke after finishing Maximilian's quests. I think you only need to finish two of the four before you get the option, but as soon as you meet the Duke the rest of the quests become inaccessible.

For the idols,
Caxton stocks weapons and shields, Madeleine stocks some daggers, armor, and accessories. From the list of items someone posted earlier it seems like Caxton's upgrades are quite a bit better than Madeleine's. I gave the gold to Caxton and the silver to Madeleine and I've got no regrets.

The silver idol is
a quest reward for a mission that appears on the notice board in the Gran Soren Pawn Guild. It only becomes available after meeting the Duke. It involves killing a cyclops at the Shadow Fort and isn't very hard at all, though the trip to the fort is a sizable trek if you haven't unlocked the quarry.

Speaking of which,
if you haven't unlocked the quarry shortcut then doing so gets you a new merchant who sells quite a few nice pieces of equipment. Head more or less due west of Gran Soren to find the quarry. If you find the Miner's Hut you're just north of it. There's a merchant at the entrance with a quest for you to clear out the quarry. You need to kill three ogres inside and when you do you'll get access to his shop as well as an extremely handy shortcut from Gran Soren to the Shadow Fort. This can all be done before your meeting with the Duke.



The only real benefit would be if you're obsessive about keeping your weight down. There aren't any skills I know of that boost attack power from eschewing a shield, so I suspect the creator of those videos either had a compulsion about staying as light as possible or just wanted to be stylish.


Whoa! Awesome post, gracias, you've been a huge help!

One last question, since I haven't even met the duke yet, how far into the story am I?
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
You must have been higher leveled than me. I'm currently Mystic Knight, with a main pawn sorcerer, a pawn mage, and pawn ranger, we we barely survived.

I was level 40, so a bit higher than you. I just used Ice Enchanter plus Great Cannon to bring it down out of the air, then laid Ruinous Sigils under its chest when it was on the ground. A single sigil took off about half of a health bar and I could drop about four of them every time it was stunned, more if it decided to grab a pawn as long as it was laying on the ground. When it took off again I just Great Cannon'd it right back to the ground.

I actually felt a bit sorry for the poor lizard.

Whoa! Awesome post, gracias, you've been a huge help!

One last question, since I haven't even met the duke yet, how far into the story am I?

Glad to be of service.

I'm actually still futzing around post-Duke meeting at the moment, so I'm not really sure how far it is in the grand scheme of the game.
 
Nice thing about Port Crystals is that escort missions cease to be a problem.

Oh and spring water is AWESOME. Buy a ton of empty flasks and fill them up at healing spring. Distribute to entire party.

Every time somebody uses one(and they will when they're in bad shape) the other three characters get a bit of healing as well.
 

Astra

Member
With NG+ being very easy, is there any reason to even bother with it? Are there quests and such only available on a NG+?
 
Probably the must fun I've ever had playing a ranged class has been in this game. Releasing a Dire Arrow right as it reaches full charge for that slow-mo effect and massive damage makes picking off small enemies so satisfying.

EDIT: Just spent 7,000 whatever-points to get Leg Strength, lets me walk one weight class faster. So nice to actually be able to move even when I'm carrying a ton of stuff.
 

joe2187

Banned
So guys, what do I need to know to make Mystic Knights effective?


Invest in an enchanted elemental weapon/shiled as well as a mage's staff that works with MK's. Levitation is always useful as well as a basic healing spell or one of the higher damaging electrical spells.

I wouldn't spend to much on leveling up skills for your staff, just pick the few that suit you and level up the one that makes your bolts more effective, invest in Magick Cannon and Great Cannon (this spell is a monster) Magic shield counters are very very effective, they each have different strengths and effects and work mostly during a perfect parry/block.

Just go with the flow and you'll be on your way to being an unstoppable wrecking machine.
 
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