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Dragon's Dogma |OT| For the night is dark and full of terrors

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fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Magic Archer > double cyclops.

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I ran into my first Drake after leaving this area. NOPE, ran like hell...into a chimera and a good 15 lizardmen. I was surprised that this was pretty close to the outside of the first town.
 

Mistouze

user-friendly man-cashews
Only played a few hours up to the escort mission to Gran Soren and this game is pretty cool. I arrived at the capital with the sun setting down and was kinda afraid to be rushed by night creatures before making it to the walls but everything went fine. The world is really vibrant with life, the combat feels like it's going to be interesting for some time with the different classes and stuff. Next to this, the shitty menus and by the books quest structure is nothing to bear with.

Found a few quests in Soren (going to get that magic book from thieves as a pawn knows where it is) but I still have the "kill 8 spiders in the witch forest". Will I have to backtrack through the mountain pass to find this place or is it near Soren?

Strider = Boss class. Can't wait to try out the smoke bomb move I just found.

Also, is it usefull to equip my mage pawn (who's getting quite some use btw, thanks to his healing methinks) with the light and dark weapon buffs spells that early in the game? Wanted to switch things up a little bit as I have a player pawn with the fire buff already.
 

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fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Where is that at, exactly?

From the looks of it, the quest where you have to clear out the shadow fort. I may be wrong though.

He got it.

That quest was pretty damn rough. Got there at night and fought the whole way until daylight.

Only played a few hours up to the escort mission to Gran Soren and this game is pretty cool. I arrived at the capital with the sun setting down and was kinda afraid to be rushed by night creatures before making it to the walls but everything went fine. The world is really vibrant with life, the combat feels like it's going to be interesting for some time with the different classes and stuff. Next to this, the shitty menus and by the books quest structure is nothing to bear with.

Found a few quests in Soren (going to get that magic book from thieves as a pawn knows where it is) but I still have the "kill 8 spiders in the witch forest". Will I have to backtrack through the mountain pass to find this place or is it near Soren?

Strider = Boss class. Can't wait to try out the smoke bomb move I just found.

Also, is it usefull to equip my mage pawn (who's getting quite some use btw, thanks to his healing methinks) with the light and dark weapon buffs spells that early in the game? Wanted to switch things up a little bit as I have a player pawn with the fire buff already.

Witchwood is back near the encampent, so you'd have to go through the mountain pass again. There's a bandit that gives a lot of people issues leading to it though, so it's probably a good thing you didn't head that way before heading to Gran Soren.

I'm level 32 and haven't used light/dark enchants at all yet. Fire/ice are still effective, though I might honestly be missing out by not trying a pawn with those, so try it out.
 

Arcteryx

Member
Oh man...just participated in another Ur kill. Got all the weapon drops(that are listed at least) now, so I'm content to just kick back an NG+ quest.

Love this new sword
Ascalon
looks bad ass
 
Wish I understood the Pawn ranking system. Mine seems to fluctuate. Was down to 53, then up to 156. Last I checked it was 102. One of my friends was 34 (All on 360)

Is it based on stars? Or how often they are used by others?
 

burgerdog

Member
It seems like there's just story quests now if you ignore the random killing X monster or bring Y item. Is that the case around the mid point of the game? I'm not finding as many NPCs with unique quests like I was in the beginning of the game. I'm also lost as to where to spend my rift crystals, which NPC and where?
 
I found an easy way to cheese the Drake.

Get it chasing you and head south (kind of close to the western hills to avoid goblins, though they still might join the fight), the Drake will try to attack/charge and cross a zone-line where it will fly into the air and return north.

Rinse and repeat and you'll fell the beast with hardly any damage taken.

I was a Magick Archer, lvl.45ish, when doing this and took a good chunk out of its health with the Sixfold shot.

Also:

1. Griffins are wimps, I've only killed one because they fly away so much.
2. Creepy goth girl likes me or something and wants to live with me, she got me the Affinity trophy.
3. Creepy jester is creepier than creepy goth girl.
4. Where can I find a bitchin' Greatsword? I hate that triple hammer that every warrior pawn uses.
 

Kevtones

Member
Finally started really getting into this game...

Holy shit I like it.



Playing with Nick Saban pawn :)


Also, is the guide worth it?
 

1stStrike

Banned
Invest in an enchanted elemental weapon/shiled as well as a mage's staff that works with MK's. Levitation is always useful as well as a basic healing spell or one of the higher damaging electrical spells.

I wouldn't spend to much on leveling up skills for your staff, just pick the few that suit you and level up the one that makes your bolts more effective, invest in Magick Cannon and Great Cannon (this spell is a monster) Magic shield counters are very very effective, they each have different strengths and effects and work mostly during a perfect parry/block.

Just go with the flow and you'll be on your way to being an unstoppable wrecking machine.

I went Magick Knight tonight to give it a whirl. Got it up to level 6 and it basically comes down to laying down the sigil for protection in each battle, enchanting my weapon (if not already enchanted) and then spamming great cannon. It's a way overpowered class, I'll grant you that, but it's also a press A to win kind of class too. No real thought or skill needed to play it, so I'm already getting bored.

I might either go back to magick archer for the versatility or stick with assassin. Not entirely sure yet.
 

Mistouze

user-friendly man-cashews
Witchwood is back near the encampent, so you'd have to go through the mountain pass again. There's a bandit that gives a lot of people issues leading to it though, so it's probably a good thing you didn't head that way before heading to Gran Soren.
I'll get to it after doing a couple of quest around Soren then. That bandit doesn't frighten me but the mountain pass... it's fucking harpy country!

I'm level 32 and haven't used light/dark enchants at all yet. Fire/ice are still effective, though I might honestly be missing out by not trying a pawn with those, so try it out.
I'll come back with impressions if there's something interesting about it. At least I'll be getting cool light effects :D
 
I don't know how you managed to butcher what I said so much, I think I was pretty clear.

Some people, who obviously like Japanese RPGs are trying to dress up their opinions as objective arguments when it's clear that it is a matter of taste.

The argument about there being better exploration in this game because you never know what danger lurks around the corner is one example of the above.
There was nothing wrong with the clarity of your post (seeing as you've just restated it), it just doesn't make any sense to me at a fundamental level. A lot of people are saying they prefer DD's exploration to Skyrim's for the same reason they prefer Morrowind's exploration to Skyrim's, which wouldn't seem to indicate that they're just irrational Japanophiles. These aren't just their opinions. They're arguments. Arguments aren't objective facts written in stone, but they also aren't "I like green better than blue, just cause."
You seem to be implying (and tell me if I'm wrong) that there are some obvious, objective standards by which DD shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Skyrim, but maybe they just aren't that obvious to me.
p.s. I don't think Skyrim is a bad game (even having played the PS3 version), but it is a game with some pretty glaring flaws.
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
Ha ha, oh man. Spoilers about a mid-game plot quest.

I just finished the quest about Fournival's trial. I dutifully went around and collected all of the evidence and then, since I wasn't going to let my source of cheap Ferrystones dry up, I threw all of the evidence against him into the trash, refused to escort the guy who wanted to testify against him to the capital, and turned in only the petitions for his release. Then I bought a couple of the forged petitions in his favor from Reynard and threw those on the pile for good measure. Fournival was acquitted and I celebrated by clearing out his Ferrystone inventory with my new discount.

The real joy came when I turned the quest in. I talked to the quest-giver and
when he said that Fournival was acquitted somehow with this sort of dejected tone
I cracked up a bit. Then I took my money and experience, stuck my hands in my pockets, and whistled innocently to myself.

I really kind of love how everything that happens in the Duke's Demesne is sketchy and awkward. Every single event there is tinged with lunacy of one sort or another.
 
I kind of wish I could go on a murder spree in Gran Soren. How do guards auto capture me again? I murder Dragons and some guards overpower me? Such bullshit!
 

Karak

Member
Well finished with the second full playthrough NOt a plus game. Have to say. Though it is still early yet. This is high on my game of the year and very high in my favorite games of all time. I have now had 3 15+ hour sessions at different times playing the game. It just doesn't get old and the classes make the game feel so different its insane. And I am still learning random tricks they put into the game. I haven't marathoned like that since my original XBOX.

I have to say no fast travel is probably one of the reasons I am still interested in this. Fast travel with a quick and easy spell always gets too overused by me. This has, what I think, is a good all around solution to that.
Also hats off to Capcom for mixing so many different gameplay elements into a game and coming out with a winner. If the worst part is some low FPS or screen-tearing to get THAT much into a game I am there and twice on Sunday.

It is strange to have my another game approach and than far exceed my love for Skyrim. But man, Skyrim I really enjoyed and spent countless hours in wonder. But some of the systems really detracted from the game and I also am not a huge fan of their artstyle for creatures. But this hits me at times and feels just like Shannara or Tolkien or Warhammer RPG. And that hasn't happened before.
 

Alucrid

Banned
Ha ha, oh man. Spoilers about a mid-game plot quest.

I just finished the quest about Fournival's trial. I dutifully went around and collected all of the evidence and then, since I wasn't going to let my source of cheap Ferrystones dry up, I threw all of the evidence against him into the trash, refused to escort the guy who wanted to testify against him to the capital, and turned in only the petitions for his release. Then I bought a couple of the forged petitions in his favor from Reynard and threw those on the pile for good measure. Fournival was acquitted and I celebrated by clearing out his Ferrystone inventory with my new discount.

The real joy came when I turned the quest in. I talked to the quest-giver and
when he said that Fournival was acquitted somehow with this sort of dejected tone
I cracked up a bit. Then I took my money and experience, stuck my hands in my pockets, and whistled innocently to myself.

I really kind of love how everything that happens in the Duke's Demesne is sketchy and awkward. Every single event there is tinged with lunacy of one sort or another.

The escort guy was FOR not against.
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
Where is Witchwood?

I'm level 23 and I thought I'd just stumble into it. Haven't yet and getting worried.

From the Encampment head north a little ways, then when the path splits with one branch going north and one branch going southwest take the southwestern path. You should be heading generally uphill in a little valley at this point. After exiting the valley continue following the path south until it splits again, with one path going southeast and one going southwest. Take the southeastern path and continue following it. You'll encounter a decently-sized group of bandits along the path shortly before reaching the Witchwood.

The escort guy was FOR not against.

There are two escort guys.
I escorted the soldier from Windbluff Tower who testified in his favor, but the guy in Cassardis who wanted to testify against him I told "Not now" and then never came back for him. Seemed really sad when I turned him down. Was talking about really wanting to see justice served. Sorry guy, he offered me a discount on Ferrystones. The fact that he was guilty as sin just couldn't compete with that.

The second guy is actually
the gardener who you can rescue from execution after he's imprisoned for overhearing Fournival talking with the other Chancellor about very bad things.
I imagine he can't take part in that quest if you don't do his quest earlier, for rather understandable reasons.
 
I want to participate in the Ur-Dragon battle, but I'm probably way far off. I just started doing quests for
Aldous
, but I can't find him any where.
 

Esura

Banned
I'm curious, which class is better to start off with. Strider or Fighter? I was originally fond with Strider cause of the bow but I like using regular swords too.
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
Just in case anybody had the same idea I had, I'll spare you some disappointment: the Magnanimous Mantle doesn't make the Regeneration Augment apply to your pawns.

Quite the pity. That was the whole reason I bought it. I suppose that now I can at least switch back to a proper cape.
 
ppl seem to like this game. I played the demo but didnt care for it. I like the design but didnt care for how it was executed and the graphics were bad enough to give me headache(on ps3)

should i give second chance or is the demo a good representation.
 
I'm curious, which class is better to start off with. Strider or Fighter? I was originally fond with Strider cause of the bow but I like using regular swords too.

Strider probably has the most options. The game rewards offense over defense imo, so shields are often a waste. That being said, a fighter pawn can be pro, taking aggro but still wrecking shop.
 
ppl seem to like this game. I played the demo but didnt care for it. I like the design but didnt care for how it was executed and the graphics were bad enough to give me headache(on ps3)

should i give second chance or is the demo a good representation.

The second part of the demo is a good representation of big fights. But it also has more downtime or large groups of small mob fights. I'd suggest a rental / gamefly first.
 
I have not touched this game since two days ago and I really want to fire it back up again, but the hot weather here makes it unbearable to even stay in my room and play for an hour.
 

Atruvius

Member
Found a dragon yesterday and damn he has a lot of health, like 8 bars. It took me an hour drain three of his bars and then I died. Today I'll try him again but this time I have other two pawn with me. The last two died in a cave and I didn't bother to rescue them.
 
OK, so I was enjoying the game a fair bit more, but now I've hit a bit of a wall. I'm level 16 and I haven't done anything remotely story related since level 8 or so... I did that first escort mission to the capitol, did the quest at the Pawn Guild, and now... some Ser is giving me Wyrm Hunter quests that I absolutely cannot beat at my level, it seems? What did I miss? I haven't seen Mercedes or anything else story-related for hours and I'm not sure I'm getting the right side quests for my level. I've just sort of been dinking around and exploring, which is fun and all, but I have a whole bunch of half-finished quests that I don't think I can complete yet and no sign of any kind of story momentum.
 
Found a dragon yesterday and damn he has a lot of health, like 8 bars. It took me an hour drain three of his bars and then I died. Today I'll try him again but this time I have other two pawn with me. The last two died in a cave and I didn't bother to rescue them.

Did you fight one at Devilfire Grove near the Shadow Fort?
 

redcrayon

Member
OK, so I was enjoying the game a fair bit more, but now I've hit a bit of a wall. I'm level 16 and I haven't done anything remotely story related since level 8 or so... I did that first escort mission to the capitol, did the quest at the Pawn Guild, and now... some Ser is giving me Wyrm Hunter quests that I absolutely cannot beat at my level, it seems? What did I miss? I haven't seen Mercedes or anything else story-related for hours and I'm not sure I'm getting the right side quests for my level. I've just sort of been dinking around and exploring, which is fun and all, but I have a whole bunch of half-finished quests that I don't think I can complete yet and no sign of any kind of story momentum.


Have you looked at buying better equipment (and improving it at the blacksmith) and new skills for you and your pawn?

You can also change class at the Inn in the city.

Try looking at one of the Wyrm hunter quests again, and think about what party would have been better, then go and hire the appropriate pawns and re-set-up yourself and your pawn to do it. Stock up on healing items too, and give them to your pawns as well, it's necessary on long quests, if you just rely on healing magic your party will be running around on 1/4 maximum health by the time you finish it.

There are also several side-quests in the city you should be able to take on and beat at your level- how many have you done?
 
Have you looked at buying better equipment (and improving it at the blacksmith) and new skills for you and your pawn?

You can also change class at the Inn in the city.

Try looking at one of the Wyrm hunter quests again, and think about what party would have been better, then go and hire the appropriate pawns and re-set-up yourself and your pawn to do it. Stock up on healing items too, and give them to your pawns as well, it's necessary on long quests, if you just rely on healing magic your party will be running around on 1/4 maximum health by the time you finish it.

There are also several side-quests in the city you should be able to take on and beat at your level- how many have you done?

I tried the one that takes you through the mines to Devilfire Grove or whatever and got 100% trashed by the dragon there, so I went back and now I'm doing The Cypher, except that my current advice from the pawns is "we should head South". I'm exploring the south of the city but can't for the life of me figure out what I'm looking for.
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
I tried the one that takes you through the mines to Devilfire Grove or whatever and got 100% trashed by the dragon there, so I went back and now I'm doing The Cypher, except that my current advice from the pawns is "we should head South". I'm exploring the south of the city but can't for the life of me figure out what I'm looking for.

You don't need to fight the drake in Devilfire. You can hug the mountains to keep it from ever spotting you or you can just run like hell when it sees you.

If I'm remembering the cypher quest correctly you're looking for the Black Cat. It's down near the southeastern corner of Gran Soren in a small alley. If you've done the mission for Mason where you have to tail someone at night then the place you tailed the guy to is Madeleine's shop, which is directly across the street from the Black Cat.

Usually your pawns will mention something about having forgeries made or talking to the scrivener when you get near to the Black Cat, which is an easy way to know you're nearby. It's a little tucked away and kind of easy to miss. If all else fails you could go find Fournival in the Noble's Quarter. If you just stick with him long enough eventually part of his daily routine has him visit the Black Cat.
 
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