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[bishoptl]

My stupid ass PC started giving me the BSOD a week ago, kicking the above error message about until I finally said to hell with it and reformatted the drive entirely. After nuking the drive, I started to reinstall Windows....but it won't let me finish installing! It gives me the BSOD lockup right after I format the drive and copy over the installation files.

I've tried disabling the BIOS caching and shadowing.
I've checked the internal temperature.
I've removed the ramsticks one at a time.
I haven't installed any new hardware.

Any ideas? I'm about to see if a tower can fly.

 

[DarienA]

Any accessories installed? graphics card? ethernet card? Try with them removed as well.. IIRC this is sometimes related to overheating or bad RAM(and you've already eliminated that as a problem), or a device driver not acting right.

 

[Hooker]

Here is what microsoft says about it.

Stop 0x000000D1 or DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
The Stop 0xD1 message indicates that the system attempted to access pageable memory using a kernel process IRQL that was too high. Drivers that have used improper addresses typically cause this error.

Interpreting the Message
This Stop message has four parameters:

Memory referenced.
IRQL at time of reference.
Type of access (0x00000000 = read operation, 0x00000001 = write operation).
Address that referenced memory.
Resolving the Problem
For additional troubleshooting suggestions that apply to all Stop errors, see "Stop Message Checklist" later in this appendix.

Stop 0xD1 messages can occur after installing faulty drivers or system services. If a driver is listed by name, disable, remove, or roll back that driver to confirm that this resolves the error. If so, contact the manufacturer about a possible update. Using updated software is especially important for backup programs, multimedia applications, antivirus scanners, DVD playback, and CD mastering tools.
For more information about Stop 0xD1 messages, see the Microsoft Knowledge Base link on the Web Resources page at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/reskits/webresources. Search using keywords winnt, 0x000000D1, and 0xD1.

updated and comaptiable drivers are very important when running XP. Check your hardware with the HCL www.microsoft.com/hcl If you hardware is not on the list it does not mean it won't work it just means it hasn't been tested by Microsoft and they won't Guarantee it to be compatible. If it not on the list check the manufacturer's website fo an up to date XP driver, if they don't have one you may be out of luck. This goes for motherboards and the bios too

 

[calder]

I've never seen that error before personally, but it sounds like one my cousin had. I think in the end it was a hardware problem, he never did get it fixed by reinstalling XP and he just ended up replacing both the CPU and the ram (he had been O/Cing).

 

[Crazymoogle]

I've been getting the D1 error off and on for the last three months. It's pretty ugly as it generally kills some files on the hard drive every time it happens, and it's completely unpredictable (which means I've lost many a writing). Replaced the memory and power supply, plus put in a pci-slot fan cooler for the video card, but it still happens once a week or so.

For a situation as far gone as mine, It's pretty much either the video card, motherboard, or CPU as calder hinted at (although I've never tried overclocking this setup), but because of the cost involved in replacing the components, sadly I just have to stick with it until I can afford a complete system replacement.

 

[shuri]

Memory problems. Test your ram

 

[sefskillz]

I get this error on my laptop, because it's bunk and my ram sticks slide out a bit. Everytime I get this error, I take them out and push them back in and it works fine for a few weeks.

 

[MrPing1000]

exact same thing happened to me, my cpu was damaged.

 

[DJ Sl4m]

I had to replace my XP disk for it to install, I never changed any hardware, it was the disk which had a small scratch on it.

 

[The Shadow]

It's not XP. There's something wrong with your hardware.

I'm pretty much in the same boat. For the past week or more, I've had periodic lockups, reboots, and the occational BSOD. Most of the BSOD are BAD_POOL_HEADER but I've seen that IRQ one too.

I have no idea what's wrong. I pulled the video card. I put in new heatsinks on the GPU and CPU. I pulled one ram stick and then the other. I reformatted (got lockups during setup). I even swapped the ethernet cord, power cord, and power strip thinking it might be an external problem.

I have no idea what's wrong. I almost ordered a new motherboard but really, it could be the RAM or the GPU. I have no way of making absolute sure. No PCI video card, no other RAM aside from the two sticks.

 

[bishoptl]

ARGH

OK, I finally get all the files to copy over, reboot, and the XP setup process begins. I'm watching the little green dots in the bottom right corner light up in sequence, Microsoft marketeers flash messages telling me how happy I'll be using XP, I'm hoping against hope this son of a bitch will finish....

BSOD

MEMORY_MANAGEMENT

noooooooooo someone help me

 

[DJ Sl4m]

Have you reset the CMOS ?

There should be a jumper for it, if not remove the battery for a minute then insert it back in it's slot.

 

[The Shadow]

Have you reset the CMOS ?

There should be a jumper for it, if not remove the battery for a minute then insert it back in it's slot.

Is that for me or Bishop?

I have. Believe me, I've tried just about everything. There is very little you could recommend I try that I haven't tried before.

It's either my video card, the motherboard, or the ram. Those are the only three I can't properly test. Unfortunately, they're among the most expensive so I'm reluctant to just pick one and replace it, hoping that everything works.

I suspect the motherboard but then again, I've been pretty rough with the CPU too.

 

[GSG Flash]

I remember I got that error three years ago when I got a new video card. I gave my PC a nice swift kick and reinstalled windows ME (thinking that it was XP that was the problem) I slowly switched back to XP over time and the problem hasn't happened to me scince (I even installed new hardware and uninstalled old hardware)

 

[DJ Sl4m]

That was for Bish, I'm not sure if your problem is the same or different at this point.

I'm sure you've tried a different IRQ address for your vid card ?

Silly question, but why cant you test your memory or vid card with testing apps ?

I bet it's the powersupply on both PC's.

 

[The Shadow]

That was for Bish, I'm not sure if your problem is the same or different at this point.

I'm sure you've tried a different IRQ address for your vid card ?

Silly question, but why cant you test your memory or vid card with testing apps ?

I bet it's the powersupply on both PC's.

It's not the power supply. I have two new PSUs that are both less than 6 months old (Antec and Thermaltake) and it locks up with both. Like I said, I've tried everything you can think of.

I can't test the memory or video properly because I don't have alternatives. I can't just pull the AGP card because I have no other AGP or PCI video card to replace it. I can't see if it'll run more stable without it. Same with the ram. I only have the two sticks. I know I get lock up with one or the other and both. I can't replace both sticks with fresh ones.

 

[DJ Sl4m]

By testing the ram, I mean with an app like Memtest.

 

[bishoptl]

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

the saga continues!

 

[Crazymoogle]

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
the saga continues!

Yeah, I get that one on occasion too. -_-;

 

[tetsuoxb]

Not a troll, but two ideas worth considering:

www.novell.com/linux/suse/ you already formatted the hard drive, and Linux will mount any other volumes you have. Desktop Linux is at the point where software is approaching Microsoft level, without the crashes, frustration, and assholes you experience in WINspace.

www.apple.com/macosx if you hardware is screwed and you arent technically proficient enough to run linux, or you just want terribly high ease of use.
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I know it is hardware that is causing the problem, but it is actually the kernel trying to use faulty hardware. Try installing linux at the very least, and see how it behaves. It should give you a better clue as to what is actually going on.

 

[bishoptl]

Heh, I worked 3 years for a Mac developer - unless some Maxim models want to drop off a fully stacked G5 at my door, I won't be going that route anytime soon. Linux may be a long-term option, though.

I really really REALLY want to track down what this problem is though. Sticking in my craw.

 

[dem]

This happened to me awhile ago...

The caps on my motherboard were bulging/leaking.



edit:
not mine.. but much like this

 

[The Shadow]

Alright. I tested my mem and it checks out. How do I go about testing the CPU and GPU?

 

[Diablos]

Test your ram (one DIMM at a time) using progs like memtest86.
Also, if you can, go into your bios and lower your memory's speed. If it's 200MHz set it to 166MHz for example. If the problem goes away, then one or both of your DIMMs likely cannot operate at their rated top speed anymore. It happens even with the most reliable RAM on the market...

 

[pilonv1]

I had the DRIVER_IRQL one which was caused by a stick of bad ram - the annoying thing was that Memtest and the like wouldn't pick it up.

This page might help too http://aumha.org/win5/kbestop.php

 

[fart]

the consistent kernel panics are most assuredly being caused by bad hardware somewhere.

 

[The Shadow]

My PC has been running stable for a few hours now. I've

-increased voltage to everything by one step.
-increased speed to the fan on the CPU HS.
-noticed that my printer isn't connected.


That last point is interesting. I think I noticed all the instability when one of my USB ports stopped working and my PC couldn't find my printer. I switched the cable to another port and the PC found the printer. Roughly around that time, I started having trouble.

One or two of the USB ports in the back doesn't work so great. Apparently another went bad as my printer disappeared from another port. Soooo....could be something physically wrong with the motherboard. Increasing the voltage and fan speed might not have done anything.

 

[Firest0rm]

Same thing happened to me about a week ago. But I also got a bunch of other messages too when I tried to run my computer after I had reformatted it. I got some technical help and turns out that its something wrong with the cache, and I have to replace the whole mobo. In my case I was told it was either a virus or hardware failure.

 

[Bebpo]

I've had that problem on my laptop for about 4 months now. Turns out my laptop is fucked in the heat department and during the winter when I had heaters on temp reading programs would say my cpu was hitting 80C when intensive stuff was running.

Since then I stopped using the heaters when I use my computer and leave the window open so the laptop gets a breeze. This keeps the temp around 50C and I haven't had a BSOD in a week or two.

I think the fan on the cpu gave out, but I'm not opening my laptop up and I gotta wait until I get back in the US to send it in under warrenty :\

 

[ElyrionX]

I have experienced a somewhat similiar problem like that before. WinXP just wouldn't finish copying its files to my system after I formatted my hdd. I couldn't figure out the problem on my own so I sent it to a shop to have it checked out. I was told it was the mobo that was screwing up.

You can try taking out your old mobo and putting in a new one though that would be a massive pain in the ass to do.

 

[Wendo]

You can try running Knoppix (bootable Linux) off of a CD. No install needed- it might give you some more options.

 

[Shompola]

test memtest or whater.. it will boot into dos and test your ram. you might get similiar results as my brother i.e. over 1 million errors. Yup he replaced that memory stick, computer has worked just fine since then

 

[The Shadow]

I think boosting the voltage did the trick. My PC has been on since yesterday without a reboot or lockup. This is pretty impressive.

 

[Blatz]

This happened to me awhile ago...

The caps on my motherboard were bulging/leaking.

edit:
not mine.. but much like this
http://www.escapedgoat.com/pics/caps.jpg

My father-in-law is having this problem...the computer store he took it to said his caps were bulging/leaking too. It's interesting to see that might not be a load of crap. He hasn't ruled out a memory problem though.