Omnipunctual Godot
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If you don't mind soldering, you can replace the Dual Sense sticks with a TMR kit:
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Dualsense is a Scam
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Giallo Corsa
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Ahh yes, the typical "mine ain't broken so y'all must be doing something wrong with them" , feels like I'm on Reddit Gdammit...
ALL products have failure rates, some more than others, the Xbox, PS Dualsenses and OG Joycons though have a long history of being shit/problematic.
Holammer
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It's a Venn Diagram problem finding games supporting it, but There are some, Ubisoft's recent AssCreed games got haptics and triggers if you play wired, same with Hi-Fi Rush and Dave the Diver. But other than that it mostly Sony games supporting it.
That and Switch emulation. Silksong was supposed to have support, but they bungled it hard. Maybe the Sony's SDK/Drivers suck. I don't know. But it works perfectly with an emulator, you can even feel her heartbeats in the intro bit.
Fingers crossed the new Steam Controller encourages more devs to add haptics.
DownLikeBCPowder
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I've had my Ps5 for a few years now and no problems, hope it stays that way.
Is this a problem reported widely with the portal also since it is seemingly the same tech ?
Is this a problem reported widely with the portal also since it is seemingly the same tech ?
Hyper_hyper
Member
Nope.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Wonder why that is!
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
some of you must do some messed up shit to your controllers. My day one dualsense is still fine.
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
Hexgaming Phantom Pro.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I sold my original series x and my friend is still using it and the controller just fine; my 20th anniversary series x controller is also still working fine, my stellar shift I bought 3 years ago just imploded on me not that long ago though, all the face buttons stopped working and only the shoulders/sticks still do.
I used it heavily though so the sticks also had a lot of wear and the right stick developed some drift a few months ago; bought a new series controller to replace it.
phant0m
Member
Same.
Also if anyone wants to talk about scam controllers, the Switch 2 Pro controller is 90 fucking dollars and doesn't even have analog triggers
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Yes, to what you said. It needs more support from other game developers.
But what I MEANT was no 3rd party controller maker uses that type of rumble. Voice Coil? Everyone else just uses the spinning weights.
Esca
Member
I quite understand all products have failure rates, but when people are going through multiple controllers in lots of cases maybe, just maybe the problem isnt with the controller. Drop the attitude next time
lughnasadh123
Member
I'm currently on my second DS that has the same right stick spin to the left drift the first one had. It's manageable enough that I should be able to at least wait till another controller sale rolls around to pick one up. It was even tempting to go for one of the more premium designs till I just got so sick of dealing with it yet again.
Giallo Corsa
Member
No attitude, i just can't stand the holier than thou bullshit, I'm allergic to that, maybe tone down on being absolute and people won't have a problem with your opinion.
When people are going through multiple controllers in lots of cases maybe, just maybe, the problem isnt with the use but in fact, the planned obsolescence and lack of quality control on a company's part.
PS: a guy I know that does repairs for a living has told me that the latest DS versions are, in fact, worse than the previous ones, hence why there's many people with their 1st and 2nd revision of joypads still going strong while others with newer ones face problems.
Pejo
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I have had 5 dualsense controllers, and 4 of them got stick drift. I learned how to temporarily fix it by taking the controller apart, but it's annoying as fuck that you have to do it.
I know it's on me for continuing to buy them, but it's the best "feeling" controller in my hands, I like symmetrical sticks, and the unique features are really awesome when they're supported. Knock on wood, but my 30th anniversary Dualsense so far has been solid, no stick drift in like 10 months since I got it. It's the only one that I haven't had issues with.
I also bought a Dualsense Edge, but unfortunately it's plagued with compatibility issues (I play exclusively on PC these days), but it's a really great controller when it works.
Sony gets too much of a pass on how shitty their sticks are this gen. In my opinion, it should be RROD levels of consumer pushback, but everyone just lets it slide due to bias.
I know it's on me for continuing to buy them, but it's the best "feeling" controller in my hands, I like symmetrical sticks, and the unique features are really awesome when they're supported. Knock on wood, but my 30th anniversary Dualsense so far has been solid, no stick drift in like 10 months since I got it. It's the only one that I haven't had issues with.
I also bought a Dualsense Edge, but unfortunately it's plagued with compatibility issues (I play exclusively on PC these days), but it's a really great controller when it works.
Sony gets too much of a pass on how shitty their sticks are this gen. In my opinion, it should be RROD levels of consumer pushback, but everyone just lets it slide due to bias.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
My series controller developed stick drift. My dualsense is fine as far as I know but I haven't used it in ages - the battery life sucks and the haptics and especially the triggers didn't do anything for me. I've got 8bitdo controllers and will stick with them unless they let me down.
MrAlwaysRight
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That makes zero sense, they have the same potentiometers in them, literally the same, so does Xbox official pads.
That being said, I think there is absolutely no reason beyond utter greed from these companies to not put TMR sticks in their pads now.
Just mod it or pay someone to mod your sticks, my DS Edge with Gulikit TMR sticks is the best pad i've ever used.
Mr Moose
Member
The problem is with the controllers.
It's the sticks, they get a bit if plastic dust in them and they drift. Don't play CoD.
kevboard
Member
the Dualsense is absolute trash,
sadly, third party offerings are slim. on Xbox I can get a plethora of great hall effect/tmr stick controllers...
hell even on Switch/2 for some fucking reason... the system that needs it the least given that there are barely any competitive shooters on there.
but on PS5 there's like a handful of good alternatives... and they're all expensive AF.
sadly, third party offerings are slim. on Xbox I can get a plethora of great hall effect/tmr stick controllers...
hell even on Switch/2 for some fucking reason... the system that needs it the least given that there are barely any competitive shooters on there.
but on PS5 there's like a handful of good alternatives... and they're all expensive AF.
hououinkyouma00
Member
What the fuck do you people do to your controllers?
J Required
Gold Member
Its features are used in lots of games actually. Its only in forums people claim that there is lack of support.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
It's why the edge is fucking awesome. I have two and had one stick drift a bit, 15 bucks later swapped that bitch out...glorious
Darkkahn
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kevboard
Member
there's lack of GOOD support.
it's either forgettable, or bad in most games... and that's doubly true for the trigger effects.
that's sadly the fate of most controller gimmicks. HD rumble was very quickly just a mostly forgotten gimmick on Switch as well.
the moment a feature isn't supported across the board with very similar specs on all platforms, it gets neglected.
Mr Moose
Member
I think it's just the sticks, and this goes for Switch and Xbox as well. They fix that problem (they probably won't unless their ass gets sued, they make a fuck load on people buying controllers) and they have a fantastic controller.
DO NOT USE WD40 Electric Parts Cleaner on the controllers, it will fuck up the buttons, not the sticks.
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neocycle
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3? Then it has to be you. What were you doing with them? Be honest.
Mr Moose
Member
I have 3 with stick drift, I didn't throw them away though. I play a lot of CoD which might explain it but it really shouldn't happen when these fucking things cost £60.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I thankfully haven't had an issue with my controller, other than the awful battery. But I also haven't played my PS5 that much.
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Mr Moose
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Mines always plugged so I don't have the battery problem. It would get annoying seeing a low battery icon popping up all the time.
My PC controller is wireless though, charges when docked (8BitDo Ultimate 2) that seems to last a long time even without docking it.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I turned on my ps5 for the first time in months yesterday, to delete FF7 Rebirth, knowing I'll be a sucker and buy the Switch 2 port. It was nearly dead. It was plugged into my ps5.
Mr Moose
Member
Do you have it set to Communication Method: USB? Fuck BlueTooth.
Sooner
Member
Are you seriously saying that PlayStation and Xbox have the same stick drift failure rate as Switch 1 Joycons?
cash_longfellow
Member
It doesn't matter what controller you use. If you are rough asf with the sticks, drift will happen at some point.
Zephyranthes
Member
I wouldn't go as far as to call it a scam, but stick drift is by far the biggest problem with what is otherwise an excellent controller. It's particularly annoying as a PS5 owner because there's basically no other option that isn't outrageously expensive.
Pimpbaa
Slop Inspector
I am still using my dual sense controllers from 2021, they are still working fine in regards to the sticks. Battery life is terrible and the d-pad is stiff and mushy, but it was like that from the start. I know they doubled the battery life with the V2 controllers onward, but I'm not sure about the d-pad. I've had plenty of issues with dual shock 4 controllers however (and I'm sure my dual sense controllers will fail in that regard eventually). I've had one xbox series controller develop stick drift, and one I bought to use while I waited for refurbished controller from MS and it was fucked up right out of the box. If you are play on PC, don't bother with sony or xbox controllers. Get something with hall effect sticks. 8bitdo has tons of controllers (even ones that look and feel like old controllers), plus there are more premium options (with TMR sticks) than the more budget oriented 8bitdo. Hell the latest 8bitdo controllers might have TMR sticks themselves, I haven't checked. Don't buy controllers with potentiometers (playstation and xbox controllers) if you can. It's ancient tech that is prone to stick drift and other stick tracking issues.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
And battery life. I basically never use mine because unless you always plug it in after playing it will basically be dyong the next time you play.
MrAlwaysRight
Member
I don't have the statistics to hand, but logically they use the same component from the same manufacturer so yes, however they will apply different deadzones that may see the drift manifest at different times or in different ways.
wipeout364
Member
I love the Xbox controller but I have always thought the dual sense was kind of meh. Sony's controller just don't feel as good as the Xbox ones IMO.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
bought a dualsense to use on pc because i had a best buy gift card
never even synced it
still using x360 controller
never even synced it
still using x360 controller
Esca
Member
I dont have a holier than thou bullshit. I didn't mean mean to come off as being absolute, any product is not absolute, didn't think I'd have to write it out, but I guess everything needs to be spelled out. It's an exaggeration 99% of the time when people are saying something in absolutes.
I know some controllers are worse than others. Like the Joycons are pieces of shit. I'm not surprised the newest DS are worse. Though when you see people saying they are on say 3rd controller and still getting it, it is more than likely not being treated well in a lot of cases. Sure someone can simply badluck but I don't think there are in that category. Not trying to argue, just saying its not always a defect in the controller when it keeps happen to same person.
Anyways, agree to disagree. I'm not looking to go over semantics and apologize for any mix up.
Oh, i totally agree with planned obsolescence. It's straight up BS. I saw France just passed a law saying products made there can't be planned obsolescence, must be built to last, can be repair and not be a difficult process, and provide parts for a product for 10 years. That's something the entire world needs to adopt. I have many things passed down from my grandparents that are still working perfectly well after 80 years, the USA use to make things of quality like that, but now....well you know how it is now.
To anyone that has a controller crap out of them, don't feel bad going to like Walmart and buying a new one and switch them out as long as you clean it up well and return it. Don't feel bad, the quality of product for the prices they charge is horrible and they don't deserve to be rewarded for it with another sale.
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The_hunter
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You can do this? Didn't know that.
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Sooner
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So you've been living under a rock for the last ten years or so.
Cyberpunkd
Member
I was thinking you have a PS5 and are kinda stuck with Dualsense, but that's not the case. Why do you continue to reward Sony shit products instead of getting one of many Hall sticks controllers that are also less expensive?
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