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Yeah Duke Nukem Forever should've been a gritty survival shooter.Gvaz said:
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DUKE NUKEM FOREVER |OT| Spank One For The Good Guys
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I am having a ton of fun with it. Granted I am playing it on Xbox 360, but still its an enjoyable and almost mindless romp. I actually appreciated some of the puzzles and platforming elements no matter how small they were because they broke up the game play. The weapons feel and sound awesome, and my only gripe is that Duke doesn't have enough one liners! I had no expectations for this game and got it because its a piece of video game lore, but I've come to enjoy it. I think the review are a little too harsh, I would've probably given it a 7, with the majority of the points being docked for performance issues.
Neuromancer
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Right, like the rest of gaming has grown up so much since 1997, we've made such great strides in story telling and level design.
Give me a fucking break.
(This comment is not directed at anyone in particular.)
Give me a fucking break.
(This comment is not directed at anyone in particular.)
The thing is, it's not a piece of crap. It's a perfectly competent shooter with some really clever level design that had the misfortune of being released 6 years too late. I think people who don't care about the franchise either way would be happier if they could keep using DNF as a punchline for vaporware jokes. Personally I prefer having an actual game and am happy to finally get to play it, warts and all.aegies said:
EDIT: the PC version of DNF is averaging in the 70s so far. By what standard is that "a piece of crap?"
The Xtortionist said:
There's "master race" where you have a better framerate and some AA and some better textures, and there's "master race" where the console version is a pile of shit and the PC version is the "real" version. Based on the PS3 demo and the PC demo, the later definition of master race is true.
PC version supports the 360 gamepad with no configuration. I cancelled my PS3 pre-order after playing the demo and pre-ordered on Steam. The engine is a technical mess console side and was clearly shoehorned onto the hardware. Not that I'm surprised.
I was pretty indifferent towards this game, until I learned it featured women apologizing for being impregnated while raped by aliens. Now I'm kinda angry at it. Not only is it absolutely inappropriate for what is supposed to be a comedy game, but it's also pretty fucking unfunny. How can anyone think this is a good idea is pretty much beyond me.
The Xtortionist
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ElNarez said:
When even the girls are spouting ridiculous one liners like "I want my daddy!" and "I thought it was safe to swallow", it pretty much ceases to be dark.
Buckethead
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OMG those poor digital women!!ElNarez said:
What about the millions of dead in a digital war? What about their digital families that won't have a digital father?
Genesis Knight
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I like that the Duke can still make people hot and bothered with moral outrage after so many years.
ElNarez said:
Is there another scene that indicates they were raped or something? Seems like the joke was that they noveltybanged the aliens and got preggers. Is it your assumption that aliens can't get laid without raping? Women love guys who are from a different/exotic place.
Combichristoffersen
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luka said:
Modern review standards, sadly :|
ElNarez said:
Going by their comments, they weren't raped, but willingly shagged the aliens because.. well, because they're both dumb as fuck, really.
I think that these kinds of reviews were expected. I'm fairly certain that fans of Duke Nukem will enjoy the game. It's the same Duke Nukem attitude and style that fans grew to love. On the other hand if reviewers are new to the franchise I do think that its normal for them to not like that kind of humour in 2011. A lot changed over 14 years.
Most reviewers are also trying to decide if the game was worth 14 years of delays and development hell. It's really hard to justify this when the final product is a technical disaster and is also in competition with a plethora of shooters that are much more refined and polished.
I don't have a PC to run this unfortunately so I'm stuck with the awful console ports. I'll definitely wait for them to hit the bargain bin before getting the game. It seems Gearbox couldn't salvage the technical mess and make it playable properly on consoles.
I have no issues with those negative reviews. If the game loads 30+ seconds when you die and is full of screen tearings something is clearly wrong.
Most reviewers are also trying to decide if the game was worth 14 years of delays and development hell. It's really hard to justify this when the final product is a technical disaster and is also in competition with a plethora of shooters that are much more refined and polished.
I don't have a PC to run this unfortunately so I'm stuck with the awful console ports. I'll definitely wait for them to hit the bargain bin before getting the game. It seems Gearbox couldn't salvage the technical mess and make it playable properly on consoles.
I have no issues with those negative reviews. If the game loads 30+ seconds when you die and is full of screen tearings something is clearly wrong.
Combichristoffersen
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Aselith said:
Well, I haven't played Mass Effect, but IIRC there was some hot blue alien chick there. The aliens in the Duke universe are far from what I'd consider hot though, so you'd have to be pretty fucking dumb (like the Holsom twins) to willingly be porked (pun intended) by e.g. a pig cop :lol
Here's the problem
The game is $60 USD, ie a full priced game.
When you compare Duke Nukem forever @ $60 to what you get for $60 in 2011 it doesn't stack up
they should have put it out at 20
its no where near technologically a 2011 game, it runs like shite (on consoles, total slideshow sometimes) and yes there is the element of sexism which is part of Duke Nukem, and many people are reacting to.
Why is duke nukem forever, with a 5 year old engine, running like a 5 year old game, looking like shite the same price as unchartered 3 will be?
I know youc an say so many games are 60, not arguing, but really the game is being reviewed as it should. If you pay 60 bones is it worth it and the answer is no.
You can't be fucking apologetic because the game took so long. They put it out in 2011 against competition, with old technology and outdated graphics it runs like crap, the storyline is completely uninspired, the lack of variety in the environments is a problem and the multiplayer has some issues.
Really, what did they expect? Fucking glowing 10/10 reviews just because it got released?
and then eveyrone would bitch that journalists are just doing that for nostalgic value
can't. fucking. win.
The game is $60 USD, ie a full priced game.
When you compare Duke Nukem forever @ $60 to what you get for $60 in 2011 it doesn't stack up
they should have put it out at 20
its no where near technologically a 2011 game, it runs like shite (on consoles, total slideshow sometimes) and yes there is the element of sexism which is part of Duke Nukem, and many people are reacting to.
Why is duke nukem forever, with a 5 year old engine, running like a 5 year old game, looking like shite the same price as unchartered 3 will be?
I know youc an say so many games are 60, not arguing, but really the game is being reviewed as it should. If you pay 60 bones is it worth it and the answer is no.
You can't be fucking apologetic because the game took so long. They put it out in 2011 against competition, with old technology and outdated graphics it runs like crap, the storyline is completely uninspired, the lack of variety in the environments is a problem and the multiplayer has some issues.
Really, what did they expect? Fucking glowing 10/10 reviews just because it got released?
and then eveyrone would bitch that journalists are just doing that for nostalgic value
can't. fucking. win.
This game is a disaster.
I honestly don't understand how anyone finds it funny. Not only is the irony in this kind of sexism largely lost after decades of social progression, but the jokes themselves simply aren't funny.
Besides that, the gameplay is mediocre at its best, bad most of the time, and absolutely horrendous at its worst.
Good thing I got to try my friend's copy before buying it.
I honestly don't understand how anyone finds it funny. Not only is the irony in this kind of sexism largely lost after decades of social progression, but the jokes themselves simply aren't funny.
Besides that, the gameplay is mediocre at its best, bad most of the time, and absolutely horrendous at its worst.
Good thing I got to try my friend's copy before buying it.
Combichristoffersen
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Choc said:
I'd rather pay $60 for Duke Nukem Forever than $20 for Half-Tuck Adventures 3.
Edit: I mean I'd pay $60 for the PC version obviously. The console versions both seem to be awful, technical fuckups and should be avoided unless you have no other means of playing DNF.
Who pays retail? Payed $36 on Green Man Gaming, still on special too.
Choc said:
Well, then your post is obsolete. COD, Gears etc sell like hotcakes at 60 bucks. Many other worse corridor shooters sell at that price.
By your definition the only games that should cost 60 bucks are supposed to be 200+ hours of content or something? i prefer a good game, even if its short.
Not gonna discuss price since im against games costing 60 bucks to begin with (thankfully i never pay that thanks to my PC), but what im saying is that this game is worth as much as any other, and the price should be the same.
Seriously if you guys worry over gameplay hours you should be looking at the app store, MMO's or i dont know.. Tetris, of wich ive played over 2000 games on the DS version.
Im looking for good and fun experiences, not how much time im gonna spend in front of a monitor.
ImNotLikeThem
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wow nice.. thanks for that link. never heard of this site before, should I have?StayUp said:
maniac-kun
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Duke Nukem Forever told me a lesson. I will never buy a game again before i have seen a review. This game killed something inside me 
I think the 60$ comments are intended more to the tech.\performance aspect. From what i'm reading, the console versions are barely functioning so how the hell are they thinking about pricing it the same as contemporary games that look and perform as one would expect a 2011 retail 60$ game?
And that's before you address the gameplay.
Brink also had a pretty destructive launch in terms of tech and performance and it too suffered harsh reviews.
You can't get away with launching a game like DNF as a full-priced retail product which is presumed to be high-profile.
And that's before you address the gameplay.
Brink also had a pretty destructive launch in terms of tech and performance and it too suffered harsh reviews.
You can't get away with launching a game like DNF as a full-priced retail product which is presumed to be high-profile.
CecilRousso
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It´s fascinating to see a game with so much tasteless humour and so many apparent flaws being defended like this one is on internet forums, while other games are getting strangled at the first sight of low res textures.
People say that you should accept the game for what it is, but wasn´t this game, like Duke3D supposed to be a game that was going to rase the bar for FPS games? It´s one thing that the development of it resulted in dated graphics, but it really doesn´t seem to be mediocre at the best not matter what aspect of the game you look at.
I doubt that George Broussard and the rest of 3D Realms intended this to be the next Postal game.
People say that you should accept the game for what it is, but wasn´t this game, like Duke3D supposed to be a game that was going to rase the bar for FPS games? It´s one thing that the development of it resulted in dated graphics, but it really doesn´t seem to be mediocre at the best not matter what aspect of the game you look at.
I doubt that George Broussard and the rest of 3D Realms intended this to be the next Postal game.
Well worth the £5 and LA Noire trade-in - playing multiplayer (on 360) with friends who have the title, I think I can safely say that the game has become our online game of choice. Excellent maps, good weapons (nostalgia-tinged, admittedly), hundreds of challenges, and just for outright fun, DNF beats pretty much any online experience I have had on any game/platform. Fun should be what matters for any game release. To hell with the haters.
I can only assume that those complaining about the single player campaign are fairly new to gaming (i.e. within this console generation, or the last one), and lack the experience with classic shooters, a la Duke 3D, Hexen, Heretic, Blood, Blake Stone, amongst the others already suggested within this thread.
The game that divided the hobby - less console wars, more Duke wars. And I'm sure thats what the Duke himself would want!
I can only assume that those complaining about the single player campaign are fairly new to gaming (i.e. within this console generation, or the last one), and lack the experience with classic shooters, a la Duke 3D, Hexen, Heretic, Blood, Blake Stone, amongst the others already suggested within this thread.
The game that divided the hobby - less console wars, more Duke wars. And I'm sure thats what the Duke himself would want!
The Xtortionist
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Wow, I just played the PS3 demo and it's much better than 360 on a technical level. No screen tearing and the framerate rarely dipped any significant amount. Not once was it a "slideshow". That's in contrast to the 360 demo which has screen tearing out the ass with frequent, jarring framerate issues. It's definitely the console version to get if the full game follows suit.
Buckethead
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So don't buy it?Choc said:
It's not anyone's fault you made a poor decision but your own.
To you?
Don't act like this is some snake-oil swindle.
Combichristoffersen
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The Xtortionist said:
Unless you have a PC that's able to run DNF. It's pretty evident that DNF was built for the PC, with the console versions being afterthoughts.
The Xtortionist
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Combichristoffersen said:
That's what I meant. I'll edit.
Buckethead
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I don't really think that's necessarily the case, I think it has to do with 3D Realms'/Triptych's inexperience and Gearbox doing their best to get the game 'ready' for release whilst being cost-effective.Combichristoffersen said:
But I wouldn't doubt they'll do their best to patch it.