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Easy Allies |EZOT| Good Vibes and Good Hype
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I'm also interested in hearing them discuss the new demo since they seem divided on it (at least Ben disliked it and Ian liked it, I'm not sure if Brad liked it since I haven't watched his stream yet).
uomoartificiale
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good riddance of the ten scale with decimals, really a relic of the past. I personally have preferred even that they didn't have the half stars, but I get why you want to give yourself some room to stretch the scores.
From a consumer perspective, I think a 5 point scale is clear and simple enough for anyone interested in picking up a game:
- 5 points. It's a must have for system, get it no matter what (even if you're not into that kind of gameplay or genre).
- 4 points. highly reccomended if you're in for that gameplay experience. One of best games in that class.
- 3 points. reccomended if you're a fan of the genre.
- 2 points. Poor, but you may get something out of it if you don't mind the blatant flaws and limitations.
1 point. Stay away.
From a consumer perspective, I think a 5 point scale is clear and simple enough for anyone interested in picking up a game:
- 5 points. It's a must have for system, get it no matter what (even if you're not into that kind of gameplay or genre).
- 4 points. highly reccomended if you're in for that gameplay experience. One of best games in that class.
- 3 points. reccomended if you're a fan of the genre.
- 2 points. Poor, but you may get something out of it if you don't mind the blatant flaws and limitations.
1 point. Stay away.
I like the 10 point system (a 9 points system, if 1 is lowest) it gives you enough room, without becoming ridiculous, like a 100 points one.
Acquiescence
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Oh nice, they're already starting with the reviews. How long until they're considered Metacritic-eligible I wonder.
when was the last time you saw anything below a 6 though? really its a 5 to 10 scale. i think you get a wider range of scores with a 5 star system.
I believe Brandon has talked about (please correct me if I'm wrong) Easy Allies reviewing around 4-5 games a month which is still quite a bit less than when they were Gametrailers,
but they are not going to be only reviewing the biggest games. There should still be plenty of mediocre games going forward.
The main difference, compared to when the guys were at Gametrailers, is that now they have to have an interest in a game before they start a review.
Before they pretty much reviewed as many games as possible - often out of a sense of obligation. For example don't expect to see reviews of Fifa, Madden etc going forward..
but they are not going to be only reviewing the biggest games. There should still be plenty of mediocre games going forward.
The main difference, compared to when the guys were at Gametrailers, is that now they have to have an interest in a game before they start a review.
Before they pretty much reviewed as many games as possible - often out of a sense of obligation. For example don't expect to see reviews of Fifa, Madden etc going forward..
timmyp53
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Probably not long considering how easy it is for blog-like sites to get on there. It'll take a while to regain their meta critic weight though.
Good old Jones VO, loved it!
The 5 star system is going to take some time for me to get use to.
No more : "it's a ten!"
Hopefully we get some sort of "Just Played" iteration at some points since I personally prefer a discussion on a game than reviews. I get a better perspective and understanding on what the reviewer liked, didn't liked, what and/or why did an aspect of the game kick with him or didn't.
I'm asking too much too quickly though.
I'm happy reviews are back and hope it doesn't stress out too much the guys.
The 5 star system is going to take some time for me to get use to.
No more : "it's a ten!"
Hopefully we get some sort of "Just Played" iteration at some points since I personally prefer a discussion on a game than reviews. I get a better perspective and understanding on what the reviewer liked, didn't liked, what and/or why did an aspect of the game kick with him or didn't.
I'm asking too much too quickly though.
I'm happy reviews are back and hope it doesn't stress out too much the guys.
I think Just Played style discussions will come out of the second podcast too. At least based on the original description where it mentioned talking about what they're playing right now, not sure of the full scope of it now.
If you're a $5 Patreon, then you can watch it by logging into the Patreon page for Easy Allies. The post with the podcast should be on there. If you are not a $5 or above paying Patreon, then it will release today (variation depending on your timezone).
Sure, if you've backed $5 on Patreon.
If not, it's open for everyone later today. Judging by when it got posted on Wednesday, possibly about 16 hours from now judging on when the backer version was uploaded.
If your a patreon you can watch it now, otherwise it should go up late Friday.
doctorblurg
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I was about to ask if people's patreon charges had gone through cause I thought they'd be taken at like midnight or something but I just got the email. Hope the drop stays relatively small.
a ten year blackout?
wapplew
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Same, jut received the email. Never been so happy!
Iztok Mravlja
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My pledge went through, I'm paying your salaries now! 
Really glad this is working out.
Really glad this is working out.
It's pretty much the Giant Bomb review model, which makes perfect sense for Easy Allies right now, and that works just fine with 5 stars.
It was a great first review from EZA. This was the first review I have watched since GT went down. Is there anyone else that wishes for just this one review Brandon did not do the VO. I would have loved Huber to do his masterful Sam Lake as the VO for this one. I know own it is blasphemy to want a review without Jones, but I think it would have been hilarious.
As for the scoring system, I am only going to gripe one this one time, then hold my peace from here out. I wish they had stuck with the 100 point scale. I remember Brandon clearly saying once how important the ability to differentiate on a 100 point scale. A 9.1 is a different quality level from a 9.4 which are both different from either a 9.0 or 9.5 respectively.
Okay, I said it, and will not gripe on the point. The truth is, I do not think any of us Allies truly care about the final score and really care about what the reviewer has to say. I know that I personally have come to deeply respect what Blood, Ben, Huber, and Jones have to actually say about a game. I mean did anyone expect really expect Huber to not give this game a glowing score? Yet, from what he actually wrote I now know whether this is the game that convinces me I need an XBOX One
As for the scoring system, I am only going to gripe one this one time, then hold my peace from here out. I wish they had stuck with the 100 point scale. I remember Brandon clearly saying once how important the ability to differentiate on a 100 point scale. A 9.1 is a different quality level from a 9.4 which are both different from either a 9.0 or 9.5 respectively.
Okay, I said it, and will not gripe on the point. The truth is, I do not think any of us Allies truly care about the final score and really care about what the reviewer has to say. I know that I personally have come to deeply respect what Blood, Ben, Huber, and Jones have to actually say about a game. I mean did anyone expect really expect Huber to not give this game a glowing score? Yet, from what he actually wrote I now know whether this is the game that convinces me I need an XBOX One
Thank you for the answers. I was thinking about becoming a Patreon anyway, so take my $5 per month EZA. ��
Just got the e-mail my pledge went through, so happy.
So this 1k drop i'm seeing on their Patreon page regards to March pledges or already April?
Oh, awesome first review Huber and Brandon, everything just feels so right again. It was also great production value like you guys never left, beautiful editing,
So this 1k drop i'm seeing on their Patreon page regards to March pledges or already April?
Oh, awesome first review Huber and Brandon, everything just feels so right again. It was also great production value like you guys never left, beautiful editing,
The number isn't really relating to any individual month. If for instance my payment bounced for this month, then it would be removed from the total shown, but I'd still be down for backing next month, so it would bump it back up next month when payments start being taken.
Static Veins
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Yep my pledge has gone through too.
And fantastic review of Quantum Break!
And fantastic review of Quantum Break!
By "10 points system" i mean the one they have adopted.
5 stars + 4(or 5) half points.
I get that, but at some point they will receive this money, so i guess that's more where my question lies. When do they earn the March income?
Sometime in April after the 5th, which is the end of the billing cycle and I believe the cut off for people who did bounce, but were able to sort it out in time. But the number will get murky as to what is received vs. what that number shows. New backers tomorrow (maybe even today?) will be shown on the total for instance, but won't be paying until next month.
Complete means it's done, yeah.
Darth Smurf X
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I'm so glad they went with the star system as opposed to a 10-point scale.
I was watching Kinda Funny's interview with some dude from IGN and they were discussing the 10-point scale and why people get so mad at reviews. And while I don't agree with IGN on almost anything these days, the point they brought up made perfect sense.
In the states, we are used to the school grading system where anything below a 70 is failing. So if a game gets a 6.5, while not a bad game, everyone views it as a fail. But a game that gets 3.5 stars is essentially the same score, but isn't viewed as being a bad score.
I was watching Kinda Funny's interview with some dude from IGN and they were discussing the 10-point scale and why people get so mad at reviews. And while I don't agree with IGN on almost anything these days, the point they brought up made perfect sense.
In the states, we are used to the school grading system where anything below a 70 is failing. So if a game gets a 6.5, while not a bad game, everyone views it as a fail. But a game that gets 3.5 stars is essentially the same score, but isn't viewed as being a bad score.
Seldomly Jambon
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Yeah mine went through as well. Good times.
Seldomly Jambon
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The patreon didn't drop much at all on D-Day, comparative to what these tend to drop on the first month collection round. Boys have a really good foundation there. And definitely well deserved, as they've been churning out loads of quality over this short period.
Oh nice, thank goodness. I guess they don't accept my non US issued credit card. But all is well. I was panicking my pledge did not pull through.
CyanideFuse
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Mine just went through too. I agree about the quality and content they have been putting out; I love the streams and I have had them on each day whilst doing work.
I am currently watching Bloodworth's Trackmania stream; it works really well having Brandon answering the live chat and talking about stuff whilst Bloodworth plays.
I just love the whole informal and friendly nature to it all including Brandon introducing his dog Sophie and Norbert the cat (I think that is right).
Keep up the very, very brilliant work everyone.
Seldomly Jambon
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Indeed. Think this stuff is exceeding their old stuff to be honest. Awesome to be a part of it in some small way. Feels good
Roughly. Declines are taken off, but people who have a bounced payment can rectify that before the 5th, so it can creep back up. But it won't be known if they're new backers that aren't paying yet, or rectified payments.
Seldomly Jambon
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It is. Tends to be a technical freak out on payment methods of some pledges, particulary international cards. And then some just bounce due to balance not being there etc. This is a pretty impressive stick rate as far as it goes.
We will see how they review. But if anything a 5 star system will mean we are going to get a huge amount of 3s and 4s, so not really that much range. At least that's my prediction assuming they're gonna keep covering big titles.
Still, I like the 5 star system better as it just looks a little bit cleaner, and like others mentioned, easier to understand. I think that's the biggest advantage it has over decimals.
Yes it is indeed. People experienced with other Patreons told us to expect around a 5 % drop after the first month.
If this continues it's quite good imo. I anticipate EZA will keep growing throughout April to maybe 38-40k by the end
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