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But what if wecan see people working in an office at E3?
What a great email to wake up to. Obviously I know we need to clear 45k at pay-out time, but this is a great milestone no matter how many "buts" there are.
I am wondering if anyone can answer this hypothetical for me. We stay above 45k for pay-out in early June, but then we drop below 45k in the middle of the month. Are we getting Trailer Score for the whole month or does it end the moment Patreon displays that we are below 45k?
I am wondering if anyone can answer this hypothetical for me. We stay above 45k for pay-out in early June, but then we drop below 45k in the middle of the month. Are we getting Trailer Score for the whole month or does it end the moment Patreon displays that we are below 45k?
Man, Ben's reaction in the latest Xenoblade stream were on point lol.
Wonder what he'll think of the finale, since i absolutely hated it. But the stretch to it was amazing.
And congrats on 45k! Hope it stays after the payments.
Also, Melia is best girl also because
Wonder what he'll think of the finale, since i absolutely hated it. But the stretch to it was amazing.
And congrats on 45k! Hope it stays after the payments.
Also, Melia is best girl also because
she's voiced by another bug crush of mine, Doctor Who's Clara, which alone counts 10000 points
Holundrian
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Congrats 45k are nice but we're also at our highest Patron number ever I again I believe with 6208. So month after month new people come and are joining.
So looking at the time after e3 after that little boost we actually grew about 1000 more patrons within the time frame after that! It feels slow and steady month after month but honestly looking at it as a whole it's impressive as it's a 1000 new people based on just the general content EZA alone has been releasing. So the potential of EZA growing more by doing more collaborations to get new eyes on them has been largely untapped within that time frame.
So looking at the time after e3 after that little boost we actually grew about 1000 more patrons within the time frame after that! It feels slow and steady month after month but honestly looking at it as a whole it's impressive as it's a 1000 new people based on just the general content EZA alone has been releasing. So the potential of EZA growing more by doing more collaborations to get new eyes on them has been largely untapped within that time frame.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Are the community comment videos worth the time and effort? It seems like a huge time sink to put together and if it helped Jones I rather have him doing trailer scores than putting together those videos. However, I am not sure how beloved Communtiy Comments are, and how mad people would be if they stopped.
I submitted something stupid for the next one, but yeah, it's not something I clamour to hear. Listened to Aprils as my first one and it was a lot of forum posts but read by Jones, even had a person saying "BAWWWW ZELDA ONLY GOT THOSE SCORES BECAUSE IT'S ZELDA". Eh.
Sure some people dig hearing their comment read by Jones though.
I wonder how much money they would make if they replaced community comments with trailer jones.
Brandon loves to do them, so I wouldn't count on them cutting them. But on another note - they are attached to the 10$ Patreon-tier, so there is obvious demand and incentive for the community.
I am not sure I understand, on what ground would they make more money? Edit: Or do you mean,gating it behind the 10$-tier?
If Brandon would add mocking tone to the shittiest comments, I'd watch it. Something like Sterling has been doing in his latest two episodes.
Man-is-Obsolete
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That was my thinking. They could even keep the $10 tier and make it so that your comment (very short) has a chance to be read at the end of a Trailer Jones a la Honest Trailers.
Holundrian
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Not that I don't see the comedic value in that especially given that I generally laugh when Jones plays up being offended especially when it comes to Kyle being Kyle but I think going down that road of mocking the community could very easily be very anti good vibes given that it's punch down jokes, no matter how much people would say "it's only in good fun" stuff like that generally does not lead to healthy things. Especially as we grow I think it's better to stay clear of such things(cause I've been part of communities where mocking is par for course and generally those end up being rather toxic to be in) of that nature and everyone just do our best to not be assholes(not even asking for everyone to get along x_X) to another(I'm already kind of bummed that I've seen some EZA tribes build in different community places with certain people very much holding each other in contempt just for participating in a certain place... very silly).
As for community comments as a whole I think that's more for EZA than for us in a way?
I'm not sure I certainly don't watch them but given that Brandon mentioned a couple times that he enjoys doing them cause he likes having a way to take the temperature around EZA for each month(as in what things the community are engaged in).
In the end I'm just not that clear on its purpose/etc to make a statement on replacing it or not but hey maybe there are ways you can make them more engaging/enticing or what not.
Ah yes, it wasn't ment as a suggestion or even a serious wish. You are very correct that it wouldn't fit with the vibes of EZA. But I'd still like it, gaming community gets it too easy considering how badly they often treat games media and especially devs. Which is why I like when Sterling goes after the worst nutjobs. Gaming community lashes out all the time and are all around awful people, but because they are also consumers there's hardly ever any pushback.
CliffyB will always have a special place in my heart because of his tweet about Neogaf.
I think thats a great idea. The perfect solution tbh.
Also, I'd like to suggest that 'reward' tiers in general are more effective than 'goals'.
My basic argument would be that:
- 'goal tiers' dont guarantee patrons anything when they raise their pledges
- 'goal tiers' rely on the group as opposed to the individual which can make the individual hesitant when making their decision
- 'reward tiers' offer a clear exchange with a guaranteed outcome
For my own part, I'd like to give more money but all I'm hearing from the Allies is that it doesn't really guarantee anything. It might happen. It might not. There might be one episode. Or none. It makes me really hesitant to raise my pledge. It makes me feel like it doesn't really matter what I do because its going to rely on everyone else making the same decision as me at the same time. It makes me feel kinda powerless in a way. And I end up waiting and seeing. It's a prisoner's dilemma.
I have the complete opposite feeling towards the reward tiers. I know if I raise my pledge I will get this and I will get that. Its a clear, concrete exchange. If I raise my pledge from $1 to $5 I will get this. If I raise from $5 to $7 I will get that. It makes it easier for me to part with my money. The personal problem with this for me is that the $10 tier is not appealing and the gap to the $20 tier is too dear. And I think the 5000 other patrons at the $7 tier or below would agree with me.
Making Trailer Jones the $10 tier would encourage a lot more people to increase their pledges because theyd be getting guaranteed original EZA content and it wouldn't rely on being at the mercy of the group trying to hit an arbitrary high goal.
Ultimadrago
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Is it called "Spoiler Talk" or "Spoiler Mode"? Also was that Kyle doing the vocals for the jingle? lol
Yep. Looking forward to Tekken 7's next. (I think that will have cutscenes anyways...) I think many people do this anyhow since a few years ago. Though I was surprised IGN uploaded that for Injustice 2. I didn't know they did that.
Yep. Looking forward to Tekken 7's next. (I think that will have cutscenes anyways...) I think many people do this anyhow since a few years ago. Though I was surprised IGN uploaded that for Injustice 2. I didn't know they did that.
I totally forgot "how" Huber gets when E3 is approaching.
Spoiler Mode, and yes, that's Kyle.
But this time they didn't even activate Spoiler Mode with their keys. So why should I even bother watching the rest of the video?
Primethius
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LOL @ Kyle's Donkey Kong idea. I'm dying.
LOL, yeah, my bad, that would be a completely new level of "must be nice". Obviously meant $1000.
Ultimadrago
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This is also true. I rescind my looking forward to Tekken 7's. It should be better than SFV's at least though, right?
Exactly why I need to see them play Tekken 7 even more!
In the future if they want to do these kind of limited edition shirts, they should make a batch for the event (replace "one year strong" with "celebrating one year" or something) and put the other unlimited new design up on the shirt store. That way the people attending can still feel special but the others don't need to feel left out.
Yeah but NRS is also backed by Warner Bros. as well so they have far larger budgets than most other fighting games. WB know they have characters to sell and a highly-produced story mode is much more important to them in order to market the characters to an audience.
They're also designed to be satisfying games for non-fighting game players. Whereas the Tekken series is pretty remorseless when it comes to newcomers. The games have continued to build on top of each other, to the point where characters have endless movesets that stretch back to Tekken 2.
Additionally, I feel like NRS have always catered to newcomers to some degree. whereas there's almost essential techniques in the Tekken series that are never explained to newcomers like the "Korean back-step" and how gameplay meta is not so much about zoning and momentum (like SFV) but "footsies" in to "launchers".
NRS, whilst they make competent fighting games are aimed at a very different crowd to SF, Tekken, GG and Blazblu.
It's stuff like this is why fighters aside from NRS aren't big anymore.
Tekken generally sells well on it's numbered entries.
Yeah, unfortunately I think they're beyond help when it comes to newcomers. The game has so many "unwritten" rules and mechanics that more than any other FG (in my opinion), it relies on active learning about the game away from the game.
If they made some sort of tutorial, I don't know how it would work. It would have to be pretty wordy/technical.
Being in arcades for so long helps in a way, most players don't have to participate in the "discovery period" of the game. Whether they like that or not.
Yeah I love everything Injustice is doing when it comes to single player content. In fact I played a bunch of multiplayer last night and realized that I'm not a huge fan of the way it plays but I still wanna buy that game.
I disagree that Namco is cheapening out though. They just don't make Tekken very appealing to a broader audience. But they even dubbed the story trailer in Arabic!
Call me when someone who worked on Injustice can pronounce "Ibn al Xu'ffasch"
Capcom on the other hand... sigh. The worst part is that I really like SFV, but I don't wanna buy my own copy.
I disagree that Namco is cheapening out though. They just don't make Tekken very appealing to a broader audience. But they even dubbed the story trailer in Arabic!
Call me when someone who worked on Injustice can pronounce "Ibn al Xu'ffasch"
Capcom on the other hand... sigh. The worst part is that I really like SFV, but I don't wanna buy my own copy.
That would make the Ryan Stevens episode where he takes a jab at Blue Apron and Square Space awkward.
I know you're probably joking but a little jab is the best way to handle it. I don't know if any of the guys do but they should have a listen to a couple very popular podcasts like Song Exploder or Pod Saves America.
They have upbeat beat/music playing in the first minute, they just trot out the sponsor (maybe make a little joke) and then get on with the show. It's no big deal whatsoever. I'd be more than happy for the Allies to pick up a sponsor like the one you mentioned (maybe more game-oriented) if it meant extra funding.
dickroach
Member
yeah. if they had two or three brand sponsors before each podcast they could be pulling in an extra 10-20k per month, but having that 500 dollar tier patreon there kinda mucks that up :\
Fuck, I'm just getting ready to go out for the night too. Ah well, weekend watching.
ElephantShell
Banned
People with a deeper understanding of Patreon than me: approximately how high would we have to get to be reasonably confident that it will remain above $45,000 after the month-end drop off?
We won't know reliably. Blood was saying they get the true number transferred between the 6th and the 8th, including those drops that corrected their payment due to errors. But at that point, those who made large one off pledges like it seems someone did for 1k will be dropped off as they modify the pledge.
Just look out for announcements. The number we see on the 1st is lower than what they will get, but we don't know how much lower.
Personally I prefer non gaming related sponsors, or at least ones not involved in anything that would naturally come up in a conversation between the allies. Makes things way less murky.
Elfforkusu
Member
FE:Echoes review is up.
Can't watch right now, but I bet it's a positive review because the game owns.
Can't watch right now, but I bet it's a positive review because the game owns.
Primethius
Banned
Caught up on Tabletop. I love this series and it just continues to get better and better. Ben does a really good job with hosting it and the crew just makes every moment hilarious.
I have a minor criticism (perhaps just preference) and that's that sometimes Ben engages in straight up expository dialogue (sort of like the beginning of the latest episode) and it doesn't really fit in and feel natural because the party just sits and listens to a lore dump. And I understand why it's done, after all, creating the world and story is a tall task and often the crew just glosses by the details.
But I do prefer when the lore is integrated more naturally into conversations. Mid way through the latest episode had a good example, where the party was playing a more active role in the lore conversation, interrupting and asking questions rather then the, "let me tell you my character motivation and purpose."
Anyways, looking forward to where the series goes next.
I have a minor criticism (perhaps just preference) and that's that sometimes Ben engages in straight up expository dialogue (sort of like the beginning of the latest episode) and it doesn't really fit in and feel natural because the party just sits and listens to a lore dump. And I understand why it's done, after all, creating the world and story is a tall task and often the crew just glosses by the details.
But I do prefer when the lore is integrated more naturally into conversations. Mid way through the latest episode had a good example, where the party was playing a more active role in the lore conversation, interrupting and asking questions rather then the, "let me tell you my character motivation and purpose."
Anyways, looking forward to where the series goes next.
Grayfox341
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Yeah, I completely agree. The lore dump last episode was a little egregious. I did it to try and save time but it could have been more natural. Thanks for the post.
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