They gotta choose a STG, so they picked the only one they've played, the same reason Ultra Street Fighter 4 is on this list.
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Edge Magazine: The 100 Greatest Videogames 2017 Edition
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They gotta choose a STG, so they picked the only one they've played, the same reason Ultra Street Fighter 4 is on this list.
Tricky I Shadow
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I can agree with this, but even so, for them to not even make the top 100 for such amazing, memorable experiences? Nah.
Human Trashcan
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Horizon being on this list at all is incredibly embarrassing for everyone
Gotdatmoney
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FF7's graphics aren't servieable. Game is damn straight ugly.
It's not even the best FF using the ATB system. The pacing of the game is all over the map as well. Lots of QoL features missing versus RPGs of modern times. I actually don't think the game is even remotely balanced for the equipment they throw at you either.
It's not a particularly well written game (the translation anyway) even if it has a charming cast and interesting world. Music is definitely superb though.
It's a good game and worthy of a play even in modern times but if you hold it against every single game ever released I actually don't think it missing from this list is shocking or even of note.
FF9 is a better modern game than FF7 but trying to sell it to an audience without nostalgia is pretty damn tough. Modern games have largely surpassed it as a whole.
MemoryHumanity
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I guess you must have missed Horizon: Zero Dawn then?
And what about stuff like Bloodborne? How much time do you give a game before you can put it on a list?
And are you suggesting the best Zelda game ever made won't have staying power? People will absolutely still be talking about it 20, 30 years from now.
Barrel Cannon
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This list is pretty good tbh. Also BotW deserves the praise it gets. People just hate that it was loved as much as it was despite it's issues. It was such a fresh game that blended so many different concepts so well and without numerous glitches that plague open world games
MarkMclovin
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Pretty good list actually.
Vyse The Legend
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Obviously, I meant all the new games on the list, not just BotW. BotW, however, is ranked #1, which is why it was my example as it exemplifies this issue.
Unless you can see the future, how do you know it will be remembered as fondly in 20, 30 years? Come on now. It's barely 6 months old with new content just released and more coming soon. We're absolutely still in the honeymoon period.
MrCookiepants
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Well, I guess we know EDGE's GOTY now. Unless Mario takes it out. The Switch would then technically have the 2 greatest games of all time according to a pretty reputable publication.
I feel like lists like this should be getting better with repetition and refinement but it appears to be getting worse. This is an poor list.
BOTW Didn't come close to earning "so objectively good it outshines it's flaws" status. It's firmly in the "good but unfortunate flaws drag it down" category.
BOTW Didn't come close to earning "so objectively good it outshines it's flaws" status. It's firmly in the "good but unfortunate flaws drag it down" category.
Sorcerer Supreme
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no dmc game which is still the peak for character action game combat with 4 but bayo 2 made it. what a shit list.
Me as well, If the frame rate and the loading time before patch isn't that bad
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Wind Waker over Majora's Mask? Errrr.
I know it's been said and done a million times before, but The Witcher III being so low discredits the entire list.
You get this conflict of being glad certain games are in the list at all, but then immediately regretful seeing which games EDGE decided warranted a higher place,
(Happy to see Hyper Light Drifter get some recognition)
You get this conflict of being glad certain games are in the list at all, but then immediately regretful seeing which games EDGE decided warranted a higher place,
(Happy to see Hyper Light Drifter get some recognition)
immortald3ath
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I just think too many recent games are placed too high while some are completely missing. I understand MMO's aren't for everyone but World of Warcraft should at least make top 100.
I am just happy that Final Fantasy XII is in there somehwere
The irony in this post is way tooo high
The irony in this post is way tooo high
I mean.. at least they put the best Mario game in the highest position. Would have put SMG1 over 64 as well, but oh well. No comment on number one, but it's nice to see a Zelda game that isn't Ocarina of time at the #1 spot... Hopefully these lists can more and more move past silly nostalgia and give credit where it's due.
I mean, they make great games so it's not really shocking
Various Artists
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Wow, I have never seen a list like this and disagreed with it more. I can't believe a game like Chrono Trigger was left off the list and even if BOTW ends up as #1 I think it is too early to call it at this point. Just my opinion but I think you have to let the hype on a game settle for a bit before declaring it the greatest of all time.
I also think it is dumb that they say they only will include one game from a franchise that has sequels, yet there are 5 Zelda games and 5 Mario games. Just because they aren't numbered sequels doesn't mean they are not the successors, I feel like they didn't even follow their own rules. I'd give them Mario Maker because it is a massively different game but Mario World to 64 to Galaxy and so on are all really technically sequels. Same with Zelda with LttP to OOT to MM to WW to BotW. If they are basing it on it not having a story that follows through each game then its dumb that Final Fantasy is excluded just because they number their games. Ugh, sorry, I feel like this list has weird hazy rules that it hardly follows and it annoys me. I'll go away now.
I also think it is dumb that they say they only will include one game from a franchise that has sequels, yet there are 5 Zelda games and 5 Mario games. Just because they aren't numbered sequels doesn't mean they are not the successors, I feel like they didn't even follow their own rules. I'd give them Mario Maker because it is a massively different game but Mario World to 64 to Galaxy and so on are all really technically sequels. Same with Zelda with LttP to OOT to MM to WW to BotW. If they are basing it on it not having a story that follows through each game then its dumb that Final Fantasy is excluded just because they number their games. Ugh, sorry, I feel like this list has weird hazy rules that it hardly follows and it annoys me. I'll go away now.
lol, the Switch 2 will be out and we'll still be in the honeymoon period according to you
Okami Haundo
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I see Okami, Wind Waker, and Breath of the Wild on that list. I'm down with it. BoTW is currently my #1 favorite game of all time so I'd agree with the placement as well.
As much as I loved Uncharted 4, I'd have to agree with this. If only because 4 just doesn't feel like it stands on its own the same way that 2 does. Though in terms of ranking that series I'd put 4 ahead of 2.
As much as I loved Uncharted 4, I'd have to agree with this. If only because 4 just doesn't feel like it stands on its own the same way that 2 does. Though in terms of ranking that series I'd put 4 ahead of 2.
FallenGrace
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Oh please.
There is disagreeing with the list and certain games, fair enough, different opinions and tastes etc but this kind of over the top reaction is ridiculous.....why would a game that sold well and reviewed well be "an embarrassment for everyone". Just because you don't like it?
I can't roll my eyes hard enough at this or some other comments here.
SM3DW at 48
Yeahyuhhz
Anyway, this "100 best games" format just creates too much argument. It squishes everything into a numbered qualitative and then says that number 24, which may be a platformed, is objectively better than 29, which is a RTS.
I prefer the "if you can only play 100 games, these are the ones you should choose" kinda thing. Doesn't pit games against each other and highlights the diversity of the medium.
Yeah thats the format I prefer numbering games into a order is dog shit, but it causes 'debate' and gets people talking as we can see from this thread lol
Lmao
N Coward Parody
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The only thing I take issue with is the fact there's not a single Smash Bros game on this list. I mean c'mon...
It's a way better game than Skyrim, and that game seems to always get a free pass on these lists.
Weltall Zero
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There is a lot of ridiculous shit in this list, but these two are inexcusable, plus having MGSV over the original MGS.
It's a shame because it has some picks that have me nodding along, like FTL, Spelunky and Okami, plus BotW, Bloodborne and Dark Souls in the top five.
wut way better? No!
fargofallout
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Hell yeah, Spelunky, Fez, and Hyper Light Drifter.
Lists are lists. Whatever. I still wish I understood why people are so fond of Bayonetta 2. I thought it was fine, but not especially mind-blowing, I understand I'm in the minority, though.
Lists are lists. Whatever. I still wish I understood why people are so fond of Bayonetta 2. I thought it was fine, but not especially mind-blowing, I understand I'm in the minority, though.