Lol, I'm sure millions of people disagree with you. Easily one of the best games of all timeI'm ok with omitting some stuff, but putting The Last of Us in there is embarrassing.
But lists are gonna list.
Lol, I'm sure millions of people disagree with you. Easily one of the best games of all timeI'm ok with omitting some stuff, but putting The Last of Us in there is embarrassing.
But lists are gonna list.
Seriously and especially when you consider that they're leaving off games like Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy Tatics, New Vegas, BG2, Planescape, VtmB or even more recent games like Divinity: Original Sin and Dragon's Dogma.
Horizon shouldn't make a top 30 RPGs list much less make the top 30 of a list including every genre. It's placement is absolutely preposterous.
I'm ok with omitting some stuff, but putting The Last of Us in there is embarrassing.
But lists are gonna list.
Nah, your opinion is preposterous. There are tons of games to take off this list before Horizon. New Vegas is janky garbage with a totally incoherent world design. Chrono is okay, but they chose Earthbound apparently to rep their 2D RPGs, which is not right. I would put Lunar or Suikoden II over them both. Dragon's Dogma over Horizon yeah no.
I'm not saying it deserves to be that high, but it deserves to be on the list. Chrono Trigger is wildly WILDLY overrated at this point. No one cares that someone's childhood can't face the truth. Games like Super Metroid still stand up tall. CT is a bit dated and childish in a slightly negative way IMHO. It has terrible writing, a mediocre story, and the game has aged. I'm not gonna say keep it off the list, but I'll take Lunar 1 or 2, Suikoden II or FF6 over it easily just for the better stories.
Bloodborne does not deserve to be ranked higher than Witcher 3 in any real world.
It has good combat. And that is the only thing it will ever do better than Witcher 3.
Witcher 3 is boring and tedious with clunky combat. Bloodborne is never that. Bloodborne is pure goodness.
It's story is shit. It's writing is crap. The technical details of the game are all over the place.
I love the setting, I love the combat, but most everything else is pretty meh IMO.
IDK maybe you are not invested in The Witcher 3. But I am, and the3 world they built is INFINITELY more interesting and engaging on an intellectual level than any Souls game will ever be.
Yeah, it has some flaws, but whatever. I don't care. Bloodborne is hot topic of the moment hype and nothing more. It's a slightly incoherent game with a cool setting and great combat with horrible technical limitations.
Lmao. TLOU is gon be on the vast majority of lists from now til the end of time. Game is well loved.
Chrono Trigger is probably the most universally charming RPG of that generation. It's probably the easiest game to introduce to someone in this modern era that would have a lasting impact. I played FF6ba couple years ago, that game is worse tham Chrono Trigger by a large margin. If Chrono Trigger is childish then FF6 by comparison is pretentious as hell.
I have no problem with neither making the list
Where the fucking hell is Yoshi's Island, Rayman Legends or Origins, Ori, or Donkey Kong TF? Man these mofos hate great platformers.
Seriously, EVERY ONE of these games is in my top 40. Fucking hell.
There are 1000s of great games in the world so obviously some that you like will be left off
Rayman Legends and Tropical Freeze would be in my top 100 too though
I don't like the list, though I believe it was compiled for people who are approaching gaming right now, hence the plethora of lesser but more modern games.
That aside my top 5 would have been:
1) Doom (the original)
2) Super Mario 64
3) ICO
4) Tetris
5) Pac-Man
Lol, I'm sure millions of people disagree with you. Easily one of the best games of all time
Truth.
Nah, your opinion is preposterous. There are tons of games to take off this list before Horizon. New Vegas is janky garbage with a totally incoherent world design. Chrono is okay, but they chose Earthbound apparently to rep their 2D RPGs, which is not right. I would put Lunar or Suikoden II over them both. Dragon's Dogma over Horizon yeah no.
I'm not saying it deserves to be that high, but it deserves to be on the list. Chrono Trigger is wildly WILDLY overrated at this point. No one cares that someone's childhood can't face the truth. Games like Super Metroid still stand up tall. CT is a bit dated and childish in a slightly negative way IMHO. It has terrible writing, a mediocre story, and the game has aged. I'm not gonna say keep it off the list, but I'll take Lunar 1 or 2, Suikoden II or FF6 over it easily just for the better stories.
Keeping FF Tactics off the list is bizarre, as they hardly have anything to represent the genre.
Seriously and especially when you consider that they're leaving off games like Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy Tatics, New Vegas, BG2, Planescape, VtmB or even more recent games like Divinity: Original Sin and Dragon's Dogma.
Horizon shouldn't make a top 30 RPGs list much less make the top 30 of a list including every genre. It's placement is absolutely preposterous.
i didn't think it was possible to have a worse top 5 than Edge 2017, but you beat it by a huge margin.
Transistor > Symphony of the fucking Night apparently. Whatever you say, Edge. Whatever you say.
Though I'd love to see Mother 3 get more recognition as well, being that it was never officially released in the west, can't blame these list makers too much for omitting it. Probably would have gone with Mother 3 over EarthBound if this was my list, if I had to adhere to the one game per series rule.Theres so much wrong with BOTW despite it being a good game.
edit: subpar rewards for exploration after midpoint, mixed ratio of good and bad shrines, poor dungeons, poor bosses, poor VA, poor story.
Mother 3 is absolutely phenomenal and should be top 10, and MGSV doesnt belong here despite its gameplay
i didn't think it was possible to have a worse top 5 than Edge 2017, but you beat it by a huge margin.
You both can kindly get the heck out with this crap.
Horizon has a sublime story to tell, unique theme and is a monumental achievement.
It deserves to be on this list and comfortably.
You mean to tell me that Silent Hill 2 isn't better than Sims 3?
Edit: Arkham Knight the best Arkham game? Come now.
Bloodborne does not deserve to be ranked higher than Witcher 3 in any real world.
It has good combat. And that is the only thing it will ever do better than Witcher 3.
Did it end up disappointing? I was really hyped for it, but never got the chance to play it.
Rate my top 5 and then you can make a top 5 top 5s list:
1. Metroid Prime
2. Mega Man X
3. Mega Man Legends 2
4. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
5. Demons' Souls
Did it end up disappointing? I was really hyped for it, but never got the chance to play it.
Rate my top 5 and then you can make a top 5 top 5s list:
1. Metroid Prime
2. Mega Man X
3. Mega Man Legends 2
4. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
5. Demons' Souls
Rate my top 5 and then you can make a top 5 top 5s list:
1. Metroid Prime
2. Mega Man X
3. Mega Man Legends 2
4. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
5. Demons' Souls
It's story is shit. It's writing is crap. The technical details of the game are all over the place.
I love the setting, I love the combat, but most everything else is pretty meh IMO.
IDK maybe you are not invested in The Witcher 3. But I am, and the3 world they built is INFINITELY more interesting and engaging on an intellectual level than any Souls game will ever be.
Yeah, it has some flaws, but whatever. I don't care. Bloodborne is hot topic of the moment hype and nothing more. It's a slightly incoherent game with a cool setting and great combat with horrible technical limitations.
I never had a problem with Witcher 3's combat, I just hated that its skill system is utter garbage. Still, no other game approaches what Witcher 3 does in an open world with complex politics and adventure. The fact that fucking Destiny is higher than Witcher 3 is a goddamn abomination and sin.
My view is that a franchise should be celebrated rather than penalized for having multiple excellent entries1. Vagrant Story
4. LoZ: ALttP
3. Super Mario World
4. Gran Turismo 2
5. Mass Effect 2
Your list has way too much Mega Man, though Mega Man X would definitely be top 20 or 30 for me.
And Bloodborne has a confusing story, rough writing and limited exploration.Bloodborne came out before Witcher 3 and is still talked about today, it's not exactly a flavor of the month game.
Besides Witcher 3's faults aren't insignificant. Bad controls and bad combat in an action rpg is a major problem.
Zelda's issues are just as significant. In that they are a recognised issue that don't in any way spoil the overall game, so they are rightly ignored.Bloodborne came out before Witcher 3 and is still talked about today, it's not exactly a flavor of the month game.
Besides Witcher 3's faults aren't insignificant. Bad controls and bad combat in an action rpg is a major problem.
Nah, your opinion is preposterous. There are tons of games to take off this list before Horizon. New Vegas is janky garbage with a totally incoherent world design. Chrono is okay, but they chose Earthbound apparently to rep their 2D RPGs, which is not right. I would put Lunar or Suikoden II over them both. Dragon's Dogma over Horizon yeah no.
Bloodborne came out before Witcher 3 and is still talked about today, it's not exactly a flavor of the month game.
Besides Witcher 3's faults aren't insignificant. Bad controls and bad combat in an action rpg is a major problem.
You share two of my top five, so that's a pretty good Top 5 in my book!Rate my top 5 and then you can make a top 5 top 5s list:
1. Metroid Prime
2. Mega Man X
3. Mega Man Legends 2
4. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
5. Demons' Souls
In writing absolutely.New Vegas is such a better game than Horizon, lmao. And every other RPG on the list tbh.
In writing absolutely.
New Vegas does have a lot of issues as well though.
Your top 5 is a 9/10!
My top 5 is
1. Mega Man X
2. Metroid Prime
3. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
4. Metal Gear Solid 3
5. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
You share two of my top five, so that's a pretty good Top 5 in my book!
1. Ocarina of Time
2. Metroid Prime
3. Majora's Mask
4. REmake
5. Super Mario Galaxy
Bloodborne is robbed.
I stopped reading at Far Cry 4