Canis lupus
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Because the most powerful console always is cheaper than the weaker console... oh wait that never happened.
EDGE: "Power struggle: the real differences between PS4 and Xbox One performance"
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Because the most powerful console always is cheaper than the weaker console... oh wait that never happened.
to be fair, the article says about improved graphics drivers first, then adds the cloud bullshit.
anyways, the exaggeration there is the other part, the "tip the balance in favor of xbone" part.
gundamkyoukai
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EDGE was the one place that knew about the 8GB in PS4 before it happen (beside gaf )
The were also right with a lot of there leak info some people just can't stand the truth that MS mess up and was not ready it seem .
No offense dude, but this shit talk with whining about specs, 60fps bububu and all is really getting annoying and derails every discussion lately. Go praise your dual titans for fancy eyecandy.
Those consoles are what they are and there is a huge leap in fidelity with Killzone, Driveclub or Infamous. This gen will improve some concepts of gameplay and with more efficient engines, better lighting and more open worlds, games will have a significant leap to make people care.
I just got that the ('-').oo(<something>)
is the head of someone with a bubble showing the thought of that guy!
JimmyRustler
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And one more guy who only sees the cover.... I suggest actually reading what EDGE wrote in this issue.I'll probably get crap for this, but when your publication does things like this, that doesn't exactly make you a trustworthy source for this kind of information.
I won't go so far as to suggest that they're being paid, because that's a mighty big accusation to make, but you can't exactly blame anybody for questioning their credibility and motives, if he was even being serious, that is.
PS3 and 360 suggests the opposite is the case. They'll lead on the easier platform and half-arse the port to the more complex. Doubly so if PS4 significantly outsells Xbone (if the sales disparity is too large I could see them dropping an Xbone version altogether for smaller or mid-sized games).
EmptySpace
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googleplex
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Richard quoted his source. That source could be dev or could be for example MS employee.
We have here on GAF MS dude who claims they have more bandwidth than PS4 and everybody rolls eyes. That dude for example could be source.
AdmiralPain
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Oh this is an interesting thought. If you use low enough settings and resolution so that both platforms achieve 60 fps at the same resolution, then any power advantage evaporates since as a gamer you can't increase resolution or detail yourself on a console.
Why are you in a thread discussing tech if you don't like discussing tech?
Realize how silly your whole stance is.
It will be if the devs don't have time, you only optimise because you have too.
Looking up the time line, it seems you a right. I stand corrected at least as far as the DRM-180s go.
SenjutsuSage
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If you haven't caught on to what I'm saying yet, I'll explain it a bit more. I don't have an issue with any developers. If this is what developers are actually saying, then it's what they're actually saying. However, I'm saying that Edge practically bet their entire publication in a very public and unashamed way on promoting the Playstation 4 over the Xbox One. After that display, twisting information to suit that agenda, picking and choosing what to report from what not to report, or even outright dishonesty isn't something that I would exactly put past them.
I'll accept what developers say and wait to see for myself, but I won't pretend that Edge doesn't have a very clear agenda, either. I've already purchased a PS4, so I have no beef with the system, but Edge? Yea... that's all I'll say on the matter, though.
mangochutney
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It's a gap, but it might ultimately mean PS4 = little optimisation done, Xbox One = lots of optimisation done with the end result being near-identical products.
Only serving to make devs' lives easier and quicker by not having to optimise PS4, not games looking better.
"without optimization" also apply for PS4.
XBone versions will improve with optimization, but also PS4 versions.
Do you honestly believe that if someone is on the fence between XB1 and PS4 and they aren't interested in Kinnect, that this person isn't going to see the PS4's price as advantageous?
You're average consumer doesn't grab the tech sheet, work out how much each component should cost, add construction/shipping costs and equate it to a response where they think "well that's fair enough; I really shouldn't hold it against MS that they are making me buy something I don't want, so I won't take it into account".
googleplex
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One gaffer reported that he heard a similar story about COD:Ghost while at E3. In that same thread a Mod reported that they knew for a fact that a Japanese developer was having the same problem.
But how are you going to know if a developer gimps their ps4 port for the sake of parity? They are hardly going to announce if they did so.
Guess we will find out with games like AC4 and Watchdogs if the difference in numbers really translate in a difference in what we see on screen...my guess is since these are still consoles and you can't tweak the shit out of the graphics like on PC,the difference to the naked eye will be minimal,I don't think it will equal the Bayonetta or Skyrim PS360 differences...at least I hope not.
This is wishful thinking, and probably not what will happen. The PS3 needed more optimization as well, and in the end received the inferior port nearly every time.
aygomyownroad
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Im going to wait until the next gen multiplatform games come out in a couple of years time. By then developers will know the consoles and we can see if there is that big a gap.
Taking most things with a grain of salt.
Taking most things with a grain of salt.
Callibretto
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Kinect cost almost as much as the console it self, so something like $350+$150 or $300+$200 split
Well they basically said tight deadlines and not much time for optimization so I doubt you will see HUGE differences with the launch games but who knows maybe.
The PS4 is $299 - the hundred dollars is the superior GPU and GDDR5 /s
I'll probably get crap for this, but when your publication does things like this, that doesn't exactly make you a trustworthy source for this kind of information.
I won't go so far as to suggest that they're being paid, because that's a mighty big accusation to make, but you can't exactly blame anybody for questioning their credibility and motives, if he was even being serious, that is.
This was pre-policy-rollback. Although I hate Edge, they do recognise things which are bad for the industry.
Gormless Noodle
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Sony did something similar to Sega with how 2D worked better on the Saturn than the PS1. Devs weren't allowed to make those versions look superior or something or other if I remember correctly. I wouldn't put it below Microsoft to pull something like that, same goes for Sony of course.
To be fair the 180 was something like 1-2 weaks prior to the release of the issue and the article was definitely already written and any comments regarding the 180 most likely tacked on last minute.
Yeah like they spent time on PS3.
Exactly the case this gen with PS3
If a consumer doesn't care about Kinect, it leaves the Kinect at an effective $0 value proposition, thus leaving the Xbone at $100 more than the competition.
Thank the lord someone who knows what they are doing finally designed a console again.
Gillian Seed
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I have no favorites. But every page being covered with the same topics over and over is getting old.
You will know nothing after these games because Ubi being Ubi, they will just throw an unoptimied POTS on the market and they don't give a shit.
From the tech specs alone, differences should be bigger than Bayonetta or Skyrim 360.
Honestly, Killzone when it's released will make them take a seat imo.
I would not expect this difference to be as visible with launch games. Those always have their own issues.
you forgot to mention "but the core engineering effort in moving The Crew across to PlayStation 4 was accomplished in six months with a team of just two to three people working on it." not to mention how the sdk and developer tools were much more polished than the One.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-how-the-crew-was-ported-to-playstation-4
The 204Gb/s is combined read/write, right? As in 102 each way?