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EDGE review MS-Conf: "One of the most contemptuous press conferences in E3 history"
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shinra-bansho
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So I'm guessing I was right not to bother to stay awake for MS Conf.
Is there a news round-up somewhere?
Is there a news round-up somewhere?
Uno Venova
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Cause, apparently, the 360 won't have no game/s.
Why you no have game/s, MS??? Why is my 360 only a streaming device now???
Man what a leap.
a Master Ninja
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I forgot about that. Kinda funny.
Criminal Upper
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Can't say I disagree. With the last 3 MS conferences all being like this, it seems actual GAMES are being treated as an afterthought.
everthustodeadbeats
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I'm a bit worried that the same formula will find its way on the next xbox. There's no J Allard around this time thinking a bit outside the box. There's no hunger. It's alot of Kinect and alot of music/tv services.
I'm hoping some of the prominent developers can provide the leadership because I don't see it within Microsoft right now. They are milking a cash cow, which is their right, but its hardly inspiring and it may not work for a 2nd consecutive generation.
megamerican
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Fabulous write up.
I hate it when outlets defend this type of trash saying that it's really all about the investors, or some such shit.
I hate it when outlets defend this type of trash saying that it's really all about the investors, or some such shit.
King of the Potato People
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*Sigh* Ubisoft's is much better so far. They actually seem to care about games.
Punchpudding
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MS conference was the equivalent to top 40 radio. It was predictable, boring, and played it safe. But it's just like an anecdote I heard once about radio: even if you open the station up for requests people are just going to request the top 40 songs anyway.
Really, if MS went out and did survey of what people wanted to see how different would the list look? COD, Halo, Madden, Gears, Dance Central... maybe Forza, Tomb Raider and Splinter Cell. I think it would look very similar.
Really, if MS went out and did survey of what people wanted to see how different would the list look? COD, Halo, Madden, Gears, Dance Central... maybe Forza, Tomb Raider and Splinter Cell. I think it would look very similar.
Edge is mostly spot-on. Even though Microsoft's developed a very dull format for their E3s the last three or so years, there was at least some sort of humor to be gleaned, mostly unintentional. Here, there was nothing. That was one of the most, if not the most, boring conferences I've watched in a while.
Not just that, but it's beginning to feel like Microsoft believes they've figured gamers out and reduced us all to an equation. Opening and closing on shooting, sprinkling in some Kinect and features, and calling it a day is not building a platform or taking advantage of the opportunities this medium provides.
If this is Microsoft's vision of gaming's future and the war for your television, I want out.
Crazy knee-jerk over-exaggeration of what a well-reasoned article said ahoy!
Not just that, but it's beginning to feel like Microsoft believes they've figured gamers out and reduced us all to an equation. Opening and closing on shooting, sprinkling in some Kinect and features, and calling it a day is not building a platform or taking advantage of the opportunities this medium provides.
If this is Microsoft's vision of gaming's future and the war for your television, I want out.
Crazy knee-jerk over-exaggeration of what a well-reasoned article said ahoy!
This is the class of no bullshit feature I expect from Edge, kudos.
That was how it was. Soulless, lacking of interest, or passion for videogames. Showing miliseconds of potentially interesting games like Matte and giving enormous quantity of time to shit that will be labelled as an embarrassing failure in less than two years (Sorry MS, you are not Apple, you can stop trying).
Stop wasting our time.
That was how it was. Soulless, lacking of interest, or passion for videogames. Showing miliseconds of potentially interesting games like Matte and giving enormous quantity of time to shit that will be labelled as an embarrassing failure in less than two years (Sorry MS, you are not Apple, you can stop trying).
Stop wasting our time.
tinfoilhatman
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Sounds like their pretty bitter , not suprised considering the source and target audience.
Uno Venova
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They are doing really great so far, this is what you watch E3 for.
Ridiculous. If the game console manufacturers don't evolve beyond games, Apple will eat their lunch. Game over.
Games have always been but a Trojan horse into the living room. Seriously, we've been talking about "the war for the living room" since the original PlayStation.
And I think we saw some pretty good core games today. They won't disappear so long as there's a market for them. But MS clearly has more in store for the Xbox brand than just games, and I'm OK with that. That they are putting the Xbox name on some of their new apps and services should be taken as a good sign for gamers.
It wasn't the conference that was contemptuous--it was that article.
Games have always been but a Trojan horse into the living room. Seriously, we've been talking about "the war for the living room" since the original PlayStation.
And I think we saw some pretty good core games today. They won't disappear so long as there's a market for them. But MS clearly has more in store for the Xbox brand than just games, and I'm OK with that. That they are putting the Xbox name on some of their new apps and services should be taken as a good sign for gamers.
It wasn't the conference that was contemptuous--it was that article.
SatelliteOfLove
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"Actual games shown at a Microsoft E3 Conference" was all I got from it. They at least had enough dignity left to do that.
What does that have to do with anything?
This is one of the few times a year that a gaming company tries to put its best foot forward. And this is what Microsoft mustered. They should be called out for it, whether or not people remember this or not.
If we only talked about important things, we wouldn't be on a gaming forum.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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That... Is showing leadership. They're in the same place that Sony wants to be in, and have wanted since at least the last generation, but at the moment they can't and Microsoft can.
AgentP
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Why? I don't want the Xbox logo on a bunch of crap with the use of those lame avatars and purple and green? Give me back the brand that was 2007.
ConradCervantes
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He looks a little haggard in that GIF.
Uno Venova
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Dull bad.
Microsoft's goal for the XBox was a way to get into people's living rooms. Now that they're there, we what they really want to do (and it does seem like it's games...).
CadetMahoney
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This is the only funny comment in this thread.
Xbox has always been an American brand, but until recently, that hasn't been an issue elsewhere. But MS ever growing focus on services, rather than game, will just isolate them in the world wide business.
The irony is, on of the 360's strengths over the PS3 is their unified Live Marketplace for games. No regional bullshit. Same games launch day-and-date around the world. Their services portfolio is the polar opposite. Services that either don't exist elsewhere, or do but haven't been made available. If services are the core focus for MS now, as a non-US gamer, they are doing everything they can to alienate me. Until MS start thinking globally, this will just get worse.
The irony is, on of the 360's strengths over the PS3 is their unified Live Marketplace for games. No regional bullshit. Same games launch day-and-date around the world. Their services portfolio is the polar opposite. Services that either don't exist elsewhere, or do but haven't been made available. If services are the core focus for MS now, as a non-US gamer, they are doing everything they can to alienate me. Until MS start thinking globally, this will just get worse.
Deadly Joker
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The Technomancer
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This is exactly what I thought of when I saw it.
HigherLevel
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I've said this before, but nobody can really expect anything big from MS this year considering they've gotta have everybody working on 720 games. If next E3 arrives and we get the same kind of presentation then people should be worried.
that Halo 4 though...
that Halo 4 though...
im not particularly baffled by the things they showed because im thinking they are really going for the wii crowd with all those kinect games and media features, and for them it has been very successful, giving second life to the 360 late in its life cycle.
but they are really on thin ice for core gamers like what the wii has been for nintendo, so by next gen when the 720 will be unveiled, i hope that they return in focusing core games and new IP's.
but they are really on thin ice for core gamers like what the wii has been for nintendo, so by next gen when the 720 will be unveiled, i hope that they return in focusing core games and new IP's.
You believe they would invest in new, unproven IPs when next gen is right around the corner? A next-gen where they will be second to launch (maybe even third) and they will likely be in the same launch month as Sony who will no doubt have a more reasonably priced console this go around?
I'd wager they're heavily investing in exclusive games to release in the first 18-24 months to set themselves apart. Given the long dev cycles these days they had to shift resources over.
Today was about sustaining the Xbox 360 momentum until the next Xbox launches. They showed enough games to at least accomplish that, no problem.
CountAntonius
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I think people forgot what truly bad press conferences are, Microsoft's was safe and predictable. Not good but def not worthy of the shit that's being said imo.
This is exactly the sort of shit that makes me not want to buy whatever console they put out next. Because you know they're going to do the same thing next gen.
Build a few studios, get some exclusive first party games in the first few years to get people to buy it (perhaps shut the studios down to maximize profit) and then just coast and meanwhile try to get mom and dad to buy stuff with this console too. Which has been the demographic you've really been after anyway.
That's not something I would be particularly interested in buying and I sincerely hope it doesn't turn out that way. I would hope they still see this as a games console as well, get a decent first party developer selection and keep them around making games all the time.
Build a few studios, get some exclusive first party games in the first few years to get people to buy it (perhaps shut the studios down to maximize profit) and then just coast and meanwhile try to get mom and dad to buy stuff with this console too. Which has been the demographic you've really been after anyway.
That's not something I would be particularly interested in buying and I sincerely hope it doesn't turn out that way. I would hope they still see this as a games console as well, get a decent first party developer selection and keep them around making games all the time.
BrokenSymmetry
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Damn, this article makes me love Edge all over again. Together with their redesigned iPad issues (their article about challengeless games like Journey and Dear Esther is beyond beautiful), I think I'll have to subscribe again.
bloodforge
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Completely agree. All the hate is just ridiculous.
What, the Phil Harrison who was head of Sony's Worldwide Studios, whose remit was to work with all Sony's internal and external studios to build a wide portfolio of games? That one? What in the fuck does that have to do with streaming media services and the like? His focus was the actual opposite of what you're saying it was.
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