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EDGE review MS-Conf: "One of the most contemptuous press conferences in E3 history"

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disco

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I want my 90 minutes back.

Edit: I also hated the lack of Japanese focus. I know it was to be expected but eesh all the Western games they demoed looked the same/lacked charm. Oh and RE6... yeh erm errr. I think they want to make the Resident Evil games more like the films as they tend to be more successful than the games nowadays.
 
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Barmaley

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Nealand Liquor said:
I sure do hope this isn't directed at me due to my opinions on fanboys. If so, you aren't exacty disproving my statement.
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No, it was addressed at the people who find that edge article incredibly offensive. I read it as a satire piece of writing. It may have been hyperbolic in places, but considering that the other gaming media outlets try to outdo themselves at boot-licking about this press conference, I'd say that the edge article was a very much needed wake up/shake up call to microsoft.
What ms presented today was nothing if not a joke, I'm just not sure who is supposed to be laughing.
 
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Sydle

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SPE said:
You mean Nintendo owns NA. If Nintendo include non-gaming services with the Wii U, MS will lose their USP in one fell swoop, and they'll no longer have the gaming backbone to drive sales. And you never know what Sony will do to claw back market share.

MS's push to focus on services first, with gaming waaaaaaay down in their priority list isn't commercial suicide at all, as the Xbox brand can certainly be repositioned into a media hub that also plays hosts to gaming. This was MS's goal all along, anyway. It just means they lose relevance to core gamers.
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Nintendo was not in his comparison. And right now MS owns the NA sales charts month to month.

Gaming way down on their list? They showed Halo 4, Gears Judgement, Dance Central 3, Black Ops, Tomb Raider, Dust, Fable Journey, Forza Horizon, Splinter Cell, Madden, FIFA, Hybrid, Deadlight, Wreckateer, Tony Hawk. Pretty sure they spent as much time on games as they spent on anything else.

Dedicated games-only consoles are a thing of the past. Not sure why anyone would want to go back.
 
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Ogawa-san

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What felt like a third of the conference was now dedicated to what you might call the X-top-box: 360 as a streaming media hub.
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This, right there, is what bugged me the most about the whole conference. Living outside USA/Europe I'm used to having all the apps and content on XBL locked out, but seeing the console becoming a top box while having the "gaming" part of it pretty much left to rot is disheartening.

All I saw in the conference were a couple sequels (some good, some not so much) and timed DLCs. Everything else was about how I could use my gaming device to do something else.
 
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bede-x

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Edge is right, this was boring. Where were the surprises, the titles we didn't see coming, the landmarks that might move the industry?

It was a sequel-fest with predictable games content to repeat past successes.
 
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Akyan

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Kazama Sogetsu said:
This, right there, is what bugged me the most about the whole conference. Living outside USA/Europe I'm used to having all the apps and content on XBL locked out, but seeing the console becoming a top box while having the "gaming" part of it pretty much left to rot is disheartening.
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This is the meat of the problem for me. It's all very well them hyping up all the "entertainment" features, but in practice they're still pretty limited in terms of content availability in Europe.

All you have to do is open up the film selection in the UK, and quickly see that it's the poor hobbled cousin of LoveFilm or Netflix, and it's not even like they have enormous libraries over here. Thankfully nearly all third party games are available on the Xbox 360 so in the end it's not so bad, but all the content talk leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
 
highrider

highrider

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it seemed a little harsh, but the microsoft conferences are getting progressively worse. maybe they could get peter moore to help them out, because mattrick is an automaton.

i gotta say though, halo 4 looked amazing to me, i can't wait to play it, but the rest of the conference was poorly conceived and executed.
 
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watership

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Wow, who wrote this? It's a childish overreaction. Since 2010 the Microsoft E3 briefing has been squarely aimed at a general audiences, and its like every year gamers think MS is going to stop sending that message. The mass media has liked them. Theverge.com and CNN both said this conference was a success, but the hardcore gamers just didnt want to see anything but games.

Most of us still will play lots of games on the 360 this year. The quality of a press conference in the eyes of gamers has little baring on all the great games coming this year or the success of the 360 and the future of Xbox.
 
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Deleted member 13876

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Really wish they'd extend the Showtime concept they showed a couple of E3's back, but it doesn't seem to be in the cards. Quite boring conference especially when virtually none of the media announcements pertain to your region.
 
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Aurongel

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Halo 4 just looked creatively bankrupt and cartoony to me, the rest of the conference wasn't much more impressive really. Seems like that's the common sentiment tonight.
 
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Neuromancer

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What does this mean?

'Forza: Horizon’s trailer reminds us what Need For Speed would have aimed for had Criterion not shaken some sense into it.'

Is that a compliment or an insult?
 
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CLEEK

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Paco said:
Gaming way down on their list? They showed Halo 4, Gears Judgement, Dance Central 3, Black Ops, Tomb Raider, Dust, Fable Journey, Forza Horizon, Splinter Cell, Madden, FIFA, Hybrid, Deadlight, Wreckateer, Tony Hawk.
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Halo 4 and Forza aside, that is arguably the weakest list of games ever to be showcased at an E3 by one of the big three. A large chunk of them will be available on PS3 and possibly the Wii U. Rather than a swan song for the 360, it was the console going through its gaming death throes.
 
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Seanspeed

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Garbage article. I've liked EDGE the few times I've read it, but I've always felt there was an air of snobby, 'holier-than-thou' attitude from a lot of the writing, not even specially with the opinion pieces, but everywhere.

And while we may laugh at Microsoft's emphasis on 'entertainment', they haven't forgotten about games and make no mistake, stuff like Kinect and the broad capabilities of a console ARE gonna be part of the future. It wasn't too long ago that a lot of these peripheral functions on phones were laughed at similarly, but now its commonplace.

I think Microsoft had a nice, balanced presentation. It had the usual cringe-worthy PR spins on everything, but nobody is free of guilt from performing similar stunts. There was a lot of good stuff on display.
 
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Sydle

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SPE said:
Halo 4 and Forza aside, that is arguably the weakest list of games ever to be showcased at an E3 by one of the big three. A large chunk of them will be available on PS3 and possibly the Wii U.
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Microsoft's annual playbook has included a handful of exclusives (the usual 4) with heavy third-party support. They've been using this same play for the last 6 years. Do people just forget this stuff? Are they naive to think they'd change that strategy when A) it's been working and B) it's the last year of the 360? Wat?
 
Muffdraul

Muffdraul

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After the Halo 4 video, they could have showed an hour of Jack Black staring into the camera and farting and I would have been OK with it. I've always been skeptical of non-Bungie Halo, I no longer am. Win.
 
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KageMaru

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Aurongel said:
Halo 4 just looked creatively bankrupt and cartoony to me, the rest of the conference wasn't much more impressive really. Seems like that's the common sentiment tonight.
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It's always a common sentiment on GAF, so if you feel that way, you'll be right at home here.

Seriously, MS is getting trolled here, the MS conference thread, and even the Sony conference thread. People are fooling themselves if they think the conference was so bad that it deserves that much hate.

Can't wait until all the conference are over so that people can talk about the games.
 
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The_Monk

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It's true.

I'm the worst type of consumer for MS and 360. Why? I want my console to play games. That's it. And that makes me the worst consumer for them.

I'll stick to Sony since they focus much more on Games. Then maybe PC, later.

Right now my 360 will be playing The Witcher 2, Forza 4 and I'll be waiting for Horizon. They can keep the ADS, APPS, Kinect, etc etc. I'm a gamer who own two Consoles. I have them to play games. Videogames.
 
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Brewster's Wallet

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The_Monk said:
It's true.

I'm the worst type of consumer for MS and 360. Why? I want my console to play games. That's it. And that makes me the worst consumer for them.

I'll stick to Sony since they focus much more on Games. Then maybe PC, later.

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Same here, except switch PC and PS3 in order.
 
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Seanspeed

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entrement said:
What was so bad about it? Missed it as I was at work.
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Nothing, really. They showed a bunch of great games and also talked a lot about expanding the 360's capabilities as an 'entertainment' device in general. People are focusing on one over the other at the moment. Guess which?
 
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Seanspeed

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bede-x said:
Edge is right, this was boring. Where were the surprises, the titles we didn't see coming, the landmarks that might move the industry?

It was a sequel-fest with predictable games content to repeat past successes.
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Its the end of a console generation. C'mon now. If you were expecting revolutions, then you were incredibly naive.
 
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HocusPocus

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Standard MS conference. You go in knowing what you get unless you are a fanboy of the other systems. I agree that some of the games shown could have been better. I would have loved to of seen Unreal 4 tech demo on future Xbox hardware. However, it is what it is. Diablo 3 is out, so I don't really thing most people give a shit about E3 ;).

I would wager that Halo 4 will outsell the entire PS3 exclusive lineup in North America this year.
 
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kyo27

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The last three years have played out the same. Everyone bitches about the conference and is up in arms. Xbox goes on to be the best selling console for that year in North America. The two best selling games this holiday are going to be Halo and Call of Duty and thats what they showed.
 
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DTKT

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kyo27 said:
The last three years have played out the same. Everyone bitches about the conference and is up in arms. Xbox goes on to be the best selling console for that year in North America. The two best selling games this holiday are going to be Halo and Call of Duty and thats what they showed.
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People bitching about a conference on GAF are not the ones buying 360 during the next few months.
 
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Seanspeed

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DTKT said:
People bitching about a conference on GAF are not the ones buying 360 during the next few months.
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Maybe not, but I've already seen some whackos post about how they're selling their 360's now and everything.

Bitching is just GAF being GAF and I've noticed that there's a LOT of people that overreact over things, whether they're just a cynical asshole or just always go in with fucked up expectations.
 
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carlo6529

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People reactions remind me of the year where nintendo show was like 65% casual at E3.

I have yet to see the conference; probably won't watch it to be honest. Seems though it was just missing that "Surprise" mentality to shush the haters like when they announced FFXIII multiplatform.
 
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SMT

this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
How was it more different than last year's conference? Which, might I add, was also fuck-all and had children doing weird things with kinnect.
 
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