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ELI MANNING OWNS TIKI BARBER, THE AFC, THE ENTIRE LEAGUE, AND THE UNIVERSE!!!

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bionic77

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woodchuck said:
wtf. brady didn't leave the field with the lead. he left the field with his ass on the ground by the giants dt

and brady was missing a lot of throws he normally makes and made a lot of poor decisions. the brady magic is gone
WTF?

Have you finally ditched your heathen love of the Dark Lord?

Wellington said:
Wow, other GAFfers defending Eli...

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I have been saying all season that Eli was playing pretty well. He still has some WTF interceptions, but he also has the balls to win the game by himself.

The most amazing thing is I thought the reaction to Eli winning the SB would be anger considering how much hate he got before the playoffs. But, somehow a NFL miracle occurred and everyone realized how evil the Pats were and what a great service Eli and the Giants did to all of us.
 

jman2050

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Wellington said:
Wow, other GAFfers defending Eli...

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Well, to be fair, it's not like Eli had shown much of anything before this year to sustain a defense against criticism. Just a lot of 'talent', the Manning name, and a few statistical analyses that indicate that he's good at leading an offense coming from behind. With this SB win, Eli basically validated himself to all his doubters. The jury is still out on if he's 'turned the corner', but we've seen what Eli is truly capable[/b of, if not anything else. Hopefully that's enough to stymie criticism for the forseeable future.

Of course with retards like Duce still around, the criticism will never fully go away ;)
 

bionic77

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woodchuck said:
the only reason i was a fan of brady last year was because i don't believe in your false messiah
The movement is greater than the Messiah.

Don't you now see that the Lord moves in mysterious ways?

First the Lord gave us Big Ben who stopped the Pats streak.

Then the Lord gave us the late Great Jake Plummer who took away the Dark Lord's aura of invincibility.

Next the Lord gave P. Manning the balls required to win in the post-season when Tommy lost a lead of approximately 100 points in the 2nd half.

And finally, when all hope seemed lost and the Pats had covered the landscape in a cloud a darkness, a little boy arose and sent them to the fires of New England.

That boy's name was Eli and he became a man with approximately one minute remaining in the 4th quarter.
 

jman2050

Member
bionic77 said:
I have been saying all season that Eli was playing pretty well. He still has some WTF interceptions, but he also has the balls to win the game by himself.

The most amazing thing is I thought the reaction to Eli winning the SB would be anger considering how much hate he got before the playoffs. But, somehow a NFL miracle occurred and everyone realized how evil the Pats were and what a great service Eli and the Giants did to all of us.

I don't think anyone outside of San Diego ever really hated Eli. They hated the exposure he got because of his name despite his lack of success, and he was an easy target because he's not exactly the picture-perfect dude on-camera like his brother is. I'm too young to know for sure, but I observed that Phil Simms wasn't exactly a popular guy before he won in 1986. Now he's immortal in NY and everywhere else.
 
ive been sick with the flu since late sunday, and i just now am getting enough strength to type.

sorry its late, but........AHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHA suck it patriots :lol :lol :lol
 

Andokuky

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FrenchMovieTheme said:
the afc isn't a vastly superior conference. sure, you take the top 3 teams from the afc and the top 3 from the NFC, the afc is better, but overally it's pretty much a wash. when a team with a RB at QB gets into the playoffs (tennessee), how can you diss on the NFC? i know, they are pretty much like the 06 falcons who didn't make the playoffs, but still. don't fool yourself into believeing the broncos, chiefs, bengals, ravens, or raiders would MAGICALLY qualify for the playoffs competing in the NFC. shit, the broncos had a chance to get into the playoffs 2 years ago by beating a "shitty" 49ers team at home and they couldn't do it

They couldn't do it because Cutler got knocked out of the game long enough for Joke Plummer to come in and throw a pick and then Darrent went down too and the Niners just picked on Foxworth the rest of the game. What that has to do with the current NFL though, I have no idea. Why the quotations around shitty though? The Niners are a shitty team, no quotations needed. Remember when they were supposed to contend for the division title or at least playoffs this year? :lol

No disrespect to you...BUT WHY DO I KEEP SEEING THIS BULLSHIT

He left the field with the lead...lmao...He.Left.The.Field.With.The.Lead.

He also could have had a much larger lead if he could avoid a sack or two and put more accuracy on his passes. He had two scoring drives all game. The rest of the game he was hurrying passes that went off target or eating grass because he mistook himself for Drew Bledsoe. He played like crap for most of the game.
 
Meh, He threw the ball like 70 yards, twice, on that final drive. And one pass hit Moss on the hands.

It was a shitty situation to try to overcome. He is still the best QB this decade, and as I said a few posts ago, I wouldnt be surprised if they were right back in 43.

We'll see what happens.
 

woodchuck

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vegas says new england still has the best odds to make the SB. im curious about the offseason with asante samuel, randy moss, and their old defensive guys.

it's also never too early to start talking about the draft
 

bionic77

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woodchuck said:
vegas says new england still has the best odds to make the SB. im curious about the offseason with asante samuel, randy moss, and their old defensive guys.

it's also never too early to start talking about the draft
Also they have been pretty good about O-line injuries.

If they get two or three injuries on the line at the same time, it is going to be tough for Brady to win games.

The Pats will probably always make the playoffs no matter because of the AFC East.
 

Hunter D

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Wellington said:
I haven't had a chance to watch the game again but here is my analysis:

The chess game was going to be Pats O versus Giants D, and whoever was calling the plays for the Pats never adjusted to the pressure the Giants brought (which is exactly what they did all year anyway). How many screens, draws, pitches or damn near anything did the Pats use to slow the rush? Honestly it's pretty mindboggling. The game was won and loss moreso with the play calling than with individual plays or performances (aside from Tyree). The TD drive in the fourth quarter was the only time they went to max protect IIRC.

The patriots are cocky bitches. They ran the spread for most of the game and didn't have 2 backs or a te in to help. They probably thought Brady would have enough time to beat the giants secondary, which didn't happen. Belibitches boy got jacked up instead.
 

Tamanon

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Hunter D said:
The patriots are cocky bitches. They ran the spread for most of the game and didn't have 2 backs or a te in to help. They probably thought Brady would have enough time to beat the giants secondary, which didn't happen. Belibitches boy got jacked up instead.

Plus apparently some of the Pats players were inviting the Giants to their party after the game.:lol
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Eli = Trent Dilfer? Wtf gaf?

Eli's passer rating in the 4th quater during the playoffs was 120 something.
 

Innotech

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look,Eli isnt a great QB. He isnt a famous guy like his brother or a very reliable leader of the team (at least not yet) . But what makes Eli great now is that under pressure, with an entire season and a dynasty breathing down his neck, he delivered a win with his team. He was clutch when it counted, he executed when it mattered most. If you guys cant accept this, then fuck your cheerios. Eli did what he had to do and as a result his team won the biggest game in the NFL. Think of it like a race. You can be a hotshot and lead most of the race, but if youre not in front of the pack when that checkered flag comes down, I dont give a fuck if you were leading 99 laps out of 100, you fucking LOST. And thats what the Pats did. they choked on Belichicks bullshit and lost the ONLY game in their season that truly would indicate their ability to win. Remember, the Saints got almost that far and they didnt even have a fuckin defense. Getting to the superbowl doesnt mean shit if you dont take home that trophy.
 

NomarTyme

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soulja224466 said:
ive been sick with the flu since late sunday, and i just now am getting enough strength to type.

sorry its late, but........AHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHA suck it patriots :lol :lol :lol
Yes, suck it indeed.
 

msdstc

Incredibly Naive
Hunter D said:
The patriots are cocky bitches. They ran the spread for most of the game and didn't have 2 backs or a te in to help. They probably thought Brady would have enough time to beat the giants secondary, which didn't happen. Belibitches boy got jacked up instead.

well they had a busted o-line for starters. Brady's ankle was hurting... it showed. Moss was beating them all night just like the final play off mosses hands, but brady would overthrow/underthrow him every time. It's fine what's done is done, I'm just saying I think injuries is what killed us.

For the record Eli may have had a 120 something in the 4th quarter, but he also threw 3 dropped INT on the winning drive, one of which asante was ALL ALONE one. The other was the circus catch which harrison looked to have the best jump on, and merriweather with his hands outstretched.
 

Innotech

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msdstc said:
well they had a busted o-line for starters. Brady's ankle was hurting... it showed. Moss was beating them all night just like the final play off mosses hands, but brady would overthrow/underthrow him every time. It's fine what's done is done, I'm just saying I think injuries is what killed us.

For the record Eli may have had a 120 something in the 4th quarter, but he also threw 3 dropped INT on the winning drive, one of which asante was ALL ALONE one. The other was the circus catch which harrison looked to have the best jump on, and merriweather with his hands outstretched.
dude, injuries is what kills EVERY TEAM. Pats just blew it. Many teams have played on reserves and still managed to win games. Especially this season, that excuse just doesnt hold water.
 

TheDuce22

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msdstc said:
but he also threw 3 dropped INT on the winning drive, one of which asante was ALL ALONE one. The other was the circus catch which harrison looked to have the best jump on, and merriweather with his hands outstretched.

Thats what I find so entertaining. If the pats defenders had any hands at all Eli backers would be getting lynched right now.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
woodchuck said:
because duce represents all of gaf
cause theres only one person hating on Eli here...

msdstc said:
For the record Eli may have had a 120 something in the 4th quarter, but he also threw 3 dropped INT on the winning drive, one of which asante was ALL ALONE one. The other was the circus catch which harrison looked to have the best jump on, and merriweather with his hands outstretched.
And?
No one on the patriots made a play and so Eli did by escaping the 3 sacks in one play and Tyree made a play by making a ridiculous catch.
And then Eli and Burress made the play for the TD.

While we're talking about ifs and buts, what about some of Bradys passes? There were several where everyone in the room was like "who the hell was that too." And several passes where if the Giant's defenders had simply just turned around they would have had the easiest interceptions of their careers, because Brady would go deep for Moss and the throws had no where near the distance.


Oh and for the injury talk, the Texans lead the league with players on injured reserved and still finished 8-8.

because 2-4 people represent all of nfl sports thread
Yup. Exactly.
 

msdstc

Incredibly Naive
TheDuce22 said:
Thats what I find so entertaining. If the pats defenders had any hands at all Eli backers would be getting lynched right now.

Like I said watch that drive again. Samuel was WIDE OPEN. That would've been the game. I felt my heart drop was like oh shit that's gunna come back to bite us, and oh how it did. dropped INT wide open, phantom sack, circus catch, another dropped INT, in for a TD. Eli cracked miserably on that drive, he just got lucky as hell that the pats somehow cracked even more.

Innotech said:
dude, injuries is what kills EVERY TEAM. Pats just blew it. Many teams have played on reserves and still managed to win games. Especially this season, that excuse just doesnt hold water.

But it does hold. Brady their damn starter was hurt. Some other teams may have managed to squeek by, but they didn't lose their star, and they certainly didn't go all the way. Pats lost colvin, alright well no huge deal. Sammy morris, meh w/e. But when Brady was hurt that took away their true weapon wihch is the passing game. The deep ball wasn't cuttin it for brady, so moss wasn't a huge factor, which allows welker to be watched more carefully. Either way first play of the game randall gay goes down, not a huge deal, but it counts for something. Later on a drive I wanna say Koppen was taken out, reason for not knowing they never even updated us on the situation.

For reference other teams with injured players that blew it for them. The colts dwight freeny, marvin harrison. Freeny out the pressure comes off the opposing QBs a bit. Harrison comes back finally cold as ice fumbles his first reception. The chargers LT their star out, philip rivers bum leg, the pats beat them after playing arguably their worst game of the season. The ravens get beat by the lowly dolphins after losing even more players to injury.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Stat of the Week No. 5: After four seasons, Eli Manning is 36-28 as a starter and has a Super Bowl ring; after four seasons, Peyton Manning was 32-32 as a starter and lacked a playoff victory.
 

jman2050

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TheDuce22 said:
Thats what I find so entertaining. If the pats defenders had any hands at all Eli backers would be getting lynched right now.

If they called the Jerry Rice fumble like they should have, the 49ers lose that game.

If the Ravens didn't call a timeout when they had the Pats stopped on 4th down, we wouldn't be having this 19-0 talk

If Antonio Pierce turns around he likely forces a FG attempt, if not get an INT.

You're just a bitter Eagles 'fan' who can't get over the fact that your teams never won anything and never will.
 

Striker

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msdstc said:
For the record Eli may have had a 120 something in the 4th quarter, but he also threw 3 dropped INT on the winning drive, one of which asante was ALL ALONE one. The other was the circus catch which harrison looked to have the best jump on, and merriweather with his hands outstretched.
3 INT's? One play was a bad route by Tyree, which was high for Samuel to handle.

The other was a drop by Smith (which is why Eli got INT'd earlier). Again, not a bad pass from Eli. Where's this third one coming from?
 

TheDuce22

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jman2050 said:
If they called the Jerry Rice fumble like they should have, the 49ers lose that game.

If the Ravens didn't call a timeout when they had the Pats stopped on 4th down, we wouldn't be having this 19-0 talk

If Antonio Pierce turns around he likely forces a FG attempt, if not get an INT.

You're just a bitter Eagles 'fan' who can't get over the fact that your teams never won anything and never will.

I like how people feel the need to throw in that last part as if it means anything.
 

chidrock

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One thing that holds Eli back is the playcalling. Face it, the Giants are a conservative, run-first team. He only gets to shine when they open up the playbook. How many of those times that playbook was opened were the Giants behind and Eli had to make something happen on his own? Also, the fact that he didn't get to practice with his go-to receiver hurt, and the team led the league in drops. Before this year, there were plenty of times when the ints were not his fault. (if you want to know what I mean, look at the Smith volley - nothing new for the Giants) This year, there were times when he tried to force it, but hopefully he's broken out of that slump.
 
AstroLad said:
Stat of the Week No. 5: After four seasons, Eli Manning is 36-28 as a starter and has a Super Bowl ring; after four seasons, Peyton Manning was 32-32 as a starter and lacked a playoff victory.


Didnt Peyton go 1-15, the first year?
 

TheDuce22

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my name is ed said:
its because the eagles won't win anything of significance such as a Superbowl

Are you some sort of time traveler?

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The Giants will never again win a superbowl. Hey, that is fun!
 

LiveWire

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jman2050 said:
Insignificant in the big picture obviously, but it's interesting how much public opinion favored the Giants.

It had to. It's not necessarily about people wanting to see a great story ruined (i.e. perfect season). People would love to see someone triumph over adversity and pull off a perfect season. Someone who was honest and sportsmanlike and had a bit of luck, etc etc.

But that's not the 2007 Patriots. The public wanted to see the Patriots pay for their arrogance and cheating. The results show it. No one except Bostonians feel bad for the Patriots. And I'm willing to bet, once Spygate fully unravels, there will be Bostonians who hate this current "dynasty*" for what went down.

And I laugh at anyone who feels bad for the Patriots' players who are "innocent" of cheating. Fuck that. They bought into Belichick's bullshit, they drank the Kool-Aid, and when all is said and done, I'm betting we'll see evidence of certain players (Brady!) being made aware of the info retrieved and where it came from.

You wanna motivate a team? Do it the way Gibbs did. Do it the way Coughlin did. Belichick's days are numbered, and when he's no longer a head coach the league will be better off for it.
 

msdstc

Incredibly Naive
Striker said:
3 INT's? One play was a bad route by Tyree, which was high for Samuel to handle.

The other was a drop by Smith (which is why Eli got INT'd earlier). Again, not a bad pass from Eli. Where's this third one coming from?

Yeah right, asante had that ball go right in and out of his hands. The second was tyrees unbelievable grab, Harrison looked to have the jump on it, but couldn't even bat it down in the end. The third was merriweather, he had the ball bounce off his outstretched hands which in turn almost went into some recievers hands, but instead fell incomplete.
 

Innotech

Banned
msdstc said:
Like I said watch that drive again. Samuel was WIDE OPEN. That would've been the game. I felt my heart drop was like oh shit that's gunna come back to bite us, and oh how it did. dropped INT wide open, phantom sack, circus catch, another dropped INT, in for a TD. Eli cracked miserably on that drive, he just got lucky as hell that the pats somehow cracked even more.



But it does hold. Brady their damn starter was hurt. Some other teams may have managed to squeek by, but they didn't lose their star, and they certainly didn't go all the way. Pats lost colvin, alright well no huge deal. Sammy morris, meh w/e. But when Brady was hurt that took away their true weapon wihch is the passing game. The deep ball wasn't cuttin it for brady, so moss wasn't a huge factor, which allows welker to be watched more carefully. Either way first play of the game randall gay goes down, not a huge deal, but it counts for something. Later on a drive I wanna say Koppen was taken out, reason for not knowing they never even updated us on the situation.

For reference other teams with injured players that blew it for them. The colts dwight freeny, marvin harrison. Freeny out the pressure comes off the opposing QBs a bit. Harrison comes back finally cold as ice fumbles his first reception. The chargers LT their star out, philip rivers bum leg, the pats beat them after playing arguably their worst game of the season. The ravens get beat by the lowly dolphins after losing even more players to injury.

so basically what youre saying is the Pats wouldnt be shit if it wasnt for a couple players.
Nice depth your team has there.
 

Innotech

Banned
TheDuce22 said:
Are you some sort of time traveler?

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The Giants will never again win a superbowl. Hey, that is fun!
the Giants already won 3. thats exactly 3 more than the Eagles have won.
So even if they never win another one, they still beat your team by 3 Sb's.
 

SteveMeister

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AstroLad said:
Stat of the Week No. 5: After four seasons, Eli Manning is 36-28 as a starter and has a Super Bowl ring; after four seasons, Peyton Manning was 32-32 as a starter and lacked a playoff victory.

Here's another one for you. After 4 seasons as starting QB, Tom Brady was 57-16, including 6 playoff wins and 3 Super Bowl rings. His total for all 7 seasons is 99-31 including 11 playoff wins and those 3 Super Bowl rings.

But yes, Eli seems to be off to a better start than his brother, at least in terms of games won & lost and postseason success.
 

TheDuce22

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Innotech said:
the Giants already won 3. thats exactly 3 more than the Eagles have won.
So even if they never win another one, they still beat your team by 3 Sb's.

Assuming he can predict the future as well as I can.
 

Innotech

Banned
SteveMeister said:
Here's another one for you. After 4 seasons as starting QB, Tom Brady was 57-16, including 6 playoff wins and 3 Super Bowl rings. His total for all 7 seasons is 99-31 including 11 playoff wins and those 3 Super Bowl rings.

But yes, Eli seems to be off to a better start than his brother, at least in terms of games won & lost and postseason success.
but this year, he didnt come home with a ring, and thats the big tamale. Congrats on the other 3 years, this is not those years.
 
Innotech said:
the Giants already won 3. thats exactly 3 more than the Eagles have won.
So even if they never win another one, they still beat your team by 3 Sb's.

Man give us a break, I don't need someone to remind me of our consistent failures. I was at the superbowl when we lost to the patriots, and it was probably the worst day of my life. Philly hasn't even won a championship in the 22 (almost) years I've been on the earth.
 

Innotech

Banned
sorryaboutdresden said:
Man give us a break, I don't need someone to remind me of our consistent failures. I was at the superbowl when we lost to the patriots, and it was probably the worst day of my life. Philly hasn't even won a championship in the 22 (almost) years I've been on the earth.
sorry, but if it makes you feel better, the Saints have an even worse postseason record. Remember how excited we got in 2006? that was the farthest we EVER got in the postseason.
 
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