I still don't know how you or others continue to make exploration trips with gameplay that hasn't changed in 2 years. At least you'll make more money now...right?
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Elite Dangerous: Horizons |OT| Just scratching the surface
- Thread starter Anton Sugar
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I still don't know how you or others continue to make exploration trips with gameplay that hasn't changed in 2 years. At least you'll make more money now...right?
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Wish there was a way to get some convergence on fixed guns. Frustrating there is a permanent gap on the Clipper.
I went a little exotic with the setup and have two medium rail guns along with two large multis on the nacelles. Also weird to have to use the large pads now even though it is about the same size as a Python:
I went a little exotic with the setup and have two medium rail guns along with two large multis on the nacelles. Also weird to have to use the large pads now even though it is about the same size as a Python:
I'd hope they'd do something like that when EVA is available. Deploy a satellite from your hold, unpack it and set it up. Maybe even personal inflatable science or scan stations for explorers to process data or samples.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
To be honest, I've not gone further than Colonia for many months now. Exploring has gotten boring even for me, especially after 2.2 with the beige dumbing down of planet colors and terrain. There just aren't many interesting planets to land on anymore, not like there were in 2.1 at least.
I've been playing a lot of other games latley.
Anton Sugar
Member
Crazy that these details were always present but completely unnoticed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNJ5WFM1ppw
As someone in reddit said, we've literally been flying these ships for years without knowing about a lot of these tiny things.
EDIT: Livestreams starting this Friday, showing off PS4 footage, discussing lore and 2.3 beta features. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/335108-PAX-East-Livestream-Schedule
As someone in reddit said, we've literally been flying these ships for years without knowing about a lot of these tiny things.
EDIT: Livestreams starting this Friday, showing off PS4 footage, discussing lore and 2.3 beta features. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/335108-PAX-East-Livestream-Schedule
Anton Sugar
Member
Multi-crew isn't even in the beta yet, so it'll be a few weeks, at the earliest, I'd wager. But maybe we'll get an announcement at PAX.
Great! Actually for once I am glad it is going to take more time for this patch to hit because of the incoming nerf for passenger mission bonus to explorer ranking.
Gives me more time to get that explorer rank to Elite quick as I am not really a fan of plain exploration into deep space.
Anton Sugar
Member
Second edition of "Details" vid posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEQlCDRYbW4
Same, I am hoping to spend some time this week running long range passenger missions. Might be the only way I hit Elite as an explorer! At least in the short term.
Same, I am hoping to spend some time this week running long range passenger missions. Might be the only way I hit Elite as an explorer! At least in the short term.
Actually the trick is not to take the long range passenger missions if you want to make faster profit/level up.
Better to take those tourist missions by stacking then if possible on an ASP explorer.
Example, I take like two tourist missions at the same time of value 9 mil and 11 mil each. Successful completion of both of them gives you like ~25% increase at Range rank or like ~10% increase at Pioneer rank towards the next rank.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Theres been very little communication from Frontier on beta 2.3 so far, uncharacteristically little communication. Not much info at all from them since the beta went live. Its certainly odd.
Anton Sugar
Member
Yeah, definitely weird and makes me more uneasy than normal about this update. Could possibly get a lot of info out of PAX though.
Feeling a bit directionless (again), I'm thinking of skipping 2.3 altogether and jumping back in one last time with 2.4.
There's another beta patch out today, still no multi-crew.
There's another beta patch out today, still no multi-crew.
Winterblink
Member
Well the experimental camera doesn't let you really be that interactive with your ship while using it, otherwise I'm sure people would have noticed things like that a LOT earlier.
RadioactiveLobster
Member
Anton Sugar
Member
Still no multicrew 
lol, stings even worse that when the patch was announced this morning, it actually DID have multicrew enabled or at least they planned to.
Bought and used an FAS for the first time last night. These things are fun as hell. Can take a beating, shields recharge quickly, and they're shockingly nimble.
Actually, last night I DID get in over my head in a Haz Res and was fleeing a wing of ships. I had already had to reboot/repair once to get a bunch of my modules (including thrusters and FSD) back online, which of course dropped my (weakening shields). Maneuvered through the asteroid field to get some space but my hull was dropping fast.
I'm charging my FSD, about to jump into SC--I'm literally 1-2 "notches" away from the FSD being fully charged when I get hit again and my thrusters and FSD go out. "I'm fucked" I thought. My hull was at 3%.
However, because I just happened to be boosting when they took out my systems, I then became a spinning ship traveling (FA-off, with no thrusters to slow me back down) at full boost speed through space. I kept waiting for the wing to finish me off, not really realizing what was happening until I noticed the "space dust" passing in front of me and noticing I was hurtling through space. It gave me enough time to reboot/repair again and jump out.
Taking suggestions on fun FAS builds. I was using 1x Class 3 beam laser and 2x Class 2 PA/1x Class 3 PA last night. Getting used to playing with fixed weapons.
Damn, I wish I could find tourist missions that paid out like that that WEREN'T long range. How far are you traveling for those? Most I could get, paywise, was 900,000 and that's with a faction I'm very friendly with.
EDIT: Hull mass of Orca is being halved: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/333023-No-Orca-buff?p=5221655&viewfull=1#post5221655
EDIT 2: They're testing linked missions with CGs: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/335637-New-Combat-Communtiy-Goal-Mechanics
Basically, this would remove the kinda weird "fight a CG for one faction, finish it, then fight in the CG for the other faction". The CGs would be "linked" so that, when one side wins, they actually win, the other faction CG has ended, and then it can possibly progress from there to something else, if they wanted.
Also, from the patch:
Nice.
lol, stings even worse that when the patch was announced this morning, it actually DID have multicrew enabled or at least they planned to.Bought and used an FAS for the first time last night. These things are fun as hell. Can take a beating, shields recharge quickly, and they're shockingly nimble.
Actually, last night I DID get in over my head in a Haz Res and was fleeing a wing of ships. I had already had to reboot/repair once to get a bunch of my modules (including thrusters and FSD) back online, which of course dropped my (weakening shields). Maneuvered through the asteroid field to get some space but my hull was dropping fast.
I'm charging my FSD, about to jump into SC--I'm literally 1-2 "notches" away from the FSD being fully charged when I get hit again and my thrusters and FSD go out. "I'm fucked" I thought. My hull was at 3%.
However, because I just happened to be boosting when they took out my systems, I then became a spinning ship traveling (FA-off, with no thrusters to slow me back down) at full boost speed through space. I kept waiting for the wing to finish me off, not really realizing what was happening until I noticed the "space dust" passing in front of me and noticing I was hurtling through space. It gave me enough time to reboot/repair again and jump out.
Taking suggestions on fun FAS builds. I was using 1x Class 3 beam laser and 2x Class 2 PA/1x Class 3 PA last night. Getting used to playing with fixed weapons.
Damn, I wish I could find tourist missions that paid out like that that WEREN'T long range. How far are you traveling for those? Most I could get, paywise, was 900,000 and that's with a faction I'm very friendly with.
EDIT: Hull mass of Orca is being halved: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/333023-No-Orca-buff?p=5221655&viewfull=1#post5221655
EDIT 2: They're testing linked missions with CGs: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/335637-New-Combat-Communtiy-Goal-Mechanics
Basically, this would remove the kinda weird "fight a CG for one faction, finish it, then fight in the CG for the other faction". The CGs would be "linked" so that, when one side wins, they actually win, the other faction CG has ended, and then it can possibly progress from there to something else, if they wanted.
Also, from the patch:
Nice.
Anton Sugar
Member
Lightweight sensors add about 7-8 more ly to jump range: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...beta_23_lightweight_sensors_mod_really_makes/
Well the average ones you get normally are 5-6 million. As you go higher in ranking in explorer they keep going up for the same routes to usually 10-11 million even.
Distance would be like 3-4 beacons with the max at 250-300 LY from the base station.
The best pay i got so far was 28 million yesterday for a single tourist mission that took me just under an hour to complete.
Anton Sugar
Member
Well the average ones you get normally are 5-6 million. As you go higher in ranking in explorer they keep going up for the same routes to usually 10-11 million even.
Distance would be like 3-4 beacons with the max at 250-300 LY from the base station.
The best pay i got so far was 28 million yesterday for a single tourist mission that took me just under an hour to complete.
Oooh it's probably because my exploration rank is still pretty low.
yeah that makes a huge difference. Keep increasing the rank and the payouts will keep increasing for the same missions.
To be honest, I hate this lockdown game mechanism. Makes no sense to me.
Multi crew is enabled!
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/335843-2-3-Beta-Update-2-01?p=5257812
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/335843-2-3-Beta-Update-2-01?p=5257812
Pegasus Actual
Member
There's a lot of WTF in this game. I sat at some station on lockdown waiting for some rare good to bring to an engineer. I didn't feel like flying away and flying back so I just logged in once a day until I could buy what I needed. It took 3 days.
Just recently I got the Sirius permit so I could get rid of these stupid Modular Terminals I have been holding onto after doing massacre missions... I get Sirius allied status. And then it's log in every once in a while over the course of another day or so until the stupid permit mission shows up. Why would you make your game like this?!? Oh and the first time it popped up I clicked it and it just instantly said MISSION FAILED! That occasionally happens with other missions I accept too, but it was just hilariously sad in that context since if I recall accepting the mission should just give you the permit, I don't think I had to fly anywhere or do anything.
Speaking of missions, I've been stacking massacres Quince to become a space billionaire. Works great from a money per hour perspective but god damn does the game crash a lot after you kill a ship. Seems like it's an ancient bug that has yet to be fixed. Even if I have under 10 missions I still get crashes. C'mon guys ya got billions of CPU cycles a second here... you just got to update up to 20 mission statuses without crashing.
Engineer stuff is pretty damn grindy, I didn't do any of it when you needed commodities to engineer a part but that seems COMPLETELY INSANE. Just the fact that the mission reward commodities still exist scare me that they will bring those back.
Back to system permits for a second... I don't get it. Ok so they started dumping engineers behind them, did they serve any purpose before that? Founder's world you can buy stuff and get discounts if you're Elite or a backer, ok, kind of makes sense. Earth behind a pass, ok cool, see the solar system. I guess that makes sense. What the hell do I care about Sirius? Is there anything special to see or do there aside from the galaxy's shittiest engineer? Is there any point to the permits you get for grinding Imperial rank?
By the way I haven't gotten my Imperial rank up mission and I've been 100% on my rank for probably a year? I don't always check for them but when I do they're never there. I did go ahead and try ranking up a faction that was Empire and in-the-bubble figuring that maybe Quince just won't give the rank up mission but still nothing.
I mean, I like the spaceships, I even like the moon buggies. That core stuff is pretty good, it just seems like they constantly whiff on everything else. How did the moon buggies become.... some sort of tool of... corporate espionage? Where to get your engineer data you need to... use your moon buggy... to 'hack' terminals... Moon buggy hacker? Really?
Another insane thing, awful NPC pilots who take a percentage cut of your earnings to fly your fighter. What? Why?!? I had to fire some granny after she earned 100 million for destroying 6 fighters a play session. I guess I'll just hire some idiot expert, and terminate his contract before cashing in missions from now on. 100 million to an NPC that can barely it a fucking target in the most agile ship in the game. Hilarious. They couldn't just make it a flat fee per hour, day, or month. Nope, pay granny 100 million for doing nothing, whereas it took me god knows how long to even get up to 10 million when I started playing. It's kind of an insult.
Sorry, I know this is kind of a drive-by rant. I was just trying to get back into this game ahead of 2.3. I want to fly a fighter for my buddy. Though it seems inefficient as why wouldn't we just take out both of our engineered Anacondas in a wing? Aside from wings kind of sucking. It's hard to do stuff and have fun with friends in this game. It kind of plays better solo. I'm really hoping they can improve that aspect.
So multi-crew is the last of the Horizons stuff right? Is there any word on a roadmap beyond that?
No, still have 2.4 to go. 2.4 is the last major update in the season. Most likely space legs in Season 3 but they don't give us roadmaps.
There's a second seat?
Don't be sorry.
Actually enjoyed reading your post to understand that its not just me who has frustrations with this game which I like so much but some 'mechanics' baffle me.
Yeah, directly underneath the Pilot's chair.
Oh I never noticed a seat there, I just thought it was an observation deck. Neat.
Can't wait to see the view!
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
There is a huge observation deck below the nose of the 'conda too. Would love for them to add a surveyor seat to scan and map stuff out.
Pegasus Actual
Member
Then I'll add one more frustration onto the pile. Saw a haul 32t of whatever to wherever (500 ly away because I'm at Quince) promotion mission! Great! Ok it's kind of a long haul but you know what, I'll do it, get out of the way, and feel like I accomplished something. So I accepted the mission. Did the first 10 jumps or so back, exited the game to grab some food. When I came back the mission and the cargo were both gone. No mission failed notification or anything. Just like I had never accepted it in the first place. Just me floating in the middle of nowhere like an idiot. So the rest of my game session was flying back just to get back to where I was. Cool.
Anton Sugar
Member
What was that mean spiky looking kit for the Cobra?? Is that new?
Another cutscene?
More like a trailer/teaser.
Did that Cobra have spikes?
So I wasn't seeing things. Never sure on compressed mobile footage. Definitely new then.
It was a cinematic. Hoping that translates to alien appearances on planets.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
The planet they showed was also pretty unique.very rocky and green skies
Not to mention spikey things on the surface at angles Elite's generated planet surfaces are unable to produce.
Yeah it looked like an actual art designed planet.
It means please buy cosmetics and stick around until 2.4