As a new player, exploration data is good money, even if you're not the first to discover something. But there's no denying that bounty hunting (at nav beacons for beginners is really good) is the fast money.
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As a new player, exploration data is good money, even if you're not the first to discover something. But there's no denying that bounty hunting (at nav beacons for beginners is really good) is the fast money.
New guys should add each other and wing up. Do some pirate hunting in RES sites or try getting some combat bonds together in a Civil War or War system. Last I checked payments were full value among wing members, no? Wish there was a fleet or corp system in place for y'all to meet etc.
Just watched this. Seems really cool! Much more sim-like than NMS to say the least.
ObsidianAnt's voice is soothing. Really fits the tone and structure of the game, and he explains things at a nice pace.
I laughed when there was a traffic jam of new players waiting to deliver that data at the first space station. Seems like you should be able to "drop off" data without having to land. For shipping physical cargo parking makes sense, but having to switch to solo mode for something so trivial is a bummer as you lose all the wonder of playing live with others.
My immediate impression is that this is like a "1st person EVE Online", while NMS is more of a survival game with (relatively) arcadey space travel. Would that be a fair assessment? I loved EVE back in the day, and if this gives a similar feeling of overwhelming possibility in a massively multiplayer environment, then I think it could be for me.
If a friend and I were to get this and buddy up from the start, could we be manning each others' wings in good time? I imagine there are a lot of ropes to learn, but would be great to form a small crew and travel together for the mid-long term. Can friends benefit from others' activities while not playing/online?
When you can afford the ship -and- its insurance a few times in case you blow it up early without making the money back.
okay. i'm thinking an Adder for my first. i have cargo, it transfers right?
Up to 4 or something. It had kind of a strict number on it last time I checked.
There's some EVE I guess but it's missing anything that makes EVE great like Corps or a player economy. Similar in player driven stories.
Players can benefit by winging up together and hitting Resource Extraction Sites or Conflict Zones, making money together. Mining also to a lesser extent by getting more ore if you all fire at the same rock. Or at least it used to work that way. You can get trade dividends if you all dock at the same station and sell commodities too.
Filters on? Maybe your jump range is just too low to make the hop between stars in a specific path.
Militaratus
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Currently using my Sidewinder to make enough credits to get a Hauler. Does buying a new ship include the basic parts like I'm used to in the Sidewinder?
Basic equipment, yeah. Low tier modules. Usually 2 pulse lasers or something.
You can indeed. Restrictions are to your rewards via combat rank and payouts are terrible for anyone that isn't the pilot. Way better to jump into a Wing and gain money that way. But if you just want to fire turrets on someone's boat I guess that's up to you.
Well, that's a shame. I was hoping the matchmaking would speed up the process of bounty hunting as a group and be a viable way to farm credits. Oh well.
Nope! Leave it to both FD and the community to ruin any quick fun.
Thanks! Been reading a lot of stuff on the official forums and it seems like ED does have it's own equivalent of a player economy (a universal economy that shifts depending on player activity) and corps (albeit in "meta" form outside the game world). But anyway these aren't things I'm greatly concerned with for now, and not what made EVE for me personally.
Winging together sounds good. If you're in a wing do you automatically accept the same missions, or just pool the rewards? Would like to know more how that works.
Here comes the kicker: Taking missions as Wings is not supported. And it hasn't been, since Wings was introduced shortly after the vanilla release. Edit: Not to mention that pre 2.2 (release two years after Wings update!), "winging up" meant that your payouts were practically divided by the number of players in your wing. No, there never was an enemy or reward scaling of any sort for wings and you can practically do everything alone. In 2.2 they realized that was an idiotic penalty discouraging cooperative PvE and introduced full symmetric payouts as a crutch.
There are few missions you can sensibly do as a wing, but it's a bit of a pita. Namely massacre missions, but everybody has to take the same mission by themselves and then you can go to a conflict zone (unstructured pub brawl in spaceships, Elite's representation of a "war" *rollseyes*) and kill your targets together. Have fun finding appropriate places to do it though, as the game doesn't tell you shit. There's a system in a war state? 15 minutes to go there, another ten to check out whether it has appropriate missions and conflict zones, another 20 minutes to get your friends there. That's assuming you hit gold on your first try. Want to do another run the next evening? Oh, we're sorry, the war state has just ended (lasts some 3 days iirc?) and the missions have dried up. Better luck next time!
It's good fun when it works, but the whole experience is so cumbersome that we've stopped bothering. Evening game time with friends has turned out to be more valuable than that for us.
Yeah like Burny said above, it's not exactly a pick up and play experience either alone or with friends. Winging up isn't very streamlined or explicitly supported via the mission board. Essentially you'd have to all dock at the same station and accept the same missions. Winging up in a Conflict Zone or a RES site is far more intuitive and easy to accomplish.
And oh god noes, there possibly could never be a global chat in Elite Dangerous (or an inter-instance, system local one...)! Appropriate means of communication and social interaction other than shooty shooty bang bang!? Not on the immersion idiots' watch! Think about all the gold farmers that would ruin the experience for everyone, if there was a global chat.
ookami
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- Planetary landings + SRV + associated gameplay
- Engineers (ship's module customization)
- Crafting from materials
- Passenger transport
- Ship-launched fighter
- Multicrew
- Holo-me (character creation)
Planetary landings is more like an alternative right now unless you want to dig in Thargoid story which makes it mandatory I guess.
Militaratus
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Also you get a new starting vehicle choice that starts at a moon, and the ship includes gear for planetary landing and also a buggy.
Is the second tutorial bugged? Every time I get close to the station, I drop out of supercurise when prompted to and am then told to request docking. But then I get told I dropped out too early and need to jump away and try again.
After the second time, I went ahead and boarded the station anyway. But because the tutorial is no longer telling me what to do I'm stuck hovering an inch above the landing pad with my landing gear down unsure how to actually land
After the second time, I went ahead and boarded the station anyway. But because the tutorial is no longer telling me what to do I'm stuck hovering an inch above the landing pad with my landing gear down unsure how to actually land
valentine71
Banned
How is the performance on base PS4 guys?
Reckheim
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Is the second tutorial bugged? Every time I get close to the station, I drop out of supercurise when prompted to and am then told to request docking. But then I get told I dropped out too early and need to jump away and try again.
After the second time, I went ahead and boarded the station anyway. But because the tutorial is no longer telling me what to do I'm stuck hovering an inch above the landing pad with my landing gear down unsure how to actually land
It'll give you a message on your screen if you are close enough to drop, if you do it too soon you can end up too far from the space station.
Is the second tutorial bugged? Every time I get close to the station, I drop out of supercurise when prompted to and am then told to request docking. But then I get told I dropped out too early and need to jump away and try again.
After the second time, I went ahead and boarded the station anyway. But because the tutorial is no longer telling me what to do I'm stuck hovering an inch above the landing pad with my landing gear down unsure how to actually land
This happened to me too. Make sure you've got the right place targeted (city I think? I was trying to land on somewhere incorrect for ages, anyway) approach the station and keep an eye on the two bars in the lower left. If you don't do that task at hand it'll all fail.
Once you've nailed dropping out of hyper speed or whatever, keep the station targeted, look left and goto "Contacts", highlight the station and request landing permission.
Reckheim
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One thing to add; You'll only be given permission to land if you are withing 7.5k of the station. Otherwise you'll be denied.
It does that though and the tutorial voice tells me I'm close enough. Then as soon as I drop out he tells me I'm too far away. Really furstrating as I feel like I'm doing something wrong but the game won't tell me what.
As above, you need to be within a certain distance to request docking, so once you drop out of supercruise, fly towards the station and once you're close enough you can request to dock successfully.
Also if you don't want to deal with the docking itself, you could buy a docking computer for your ship to do it for you.
Reckheim
Member
Ok, I think I see what you're getting at. It probably tells you you're too far to request a landing pad.
Fly withing 7.5k of the station and request a landing at that point, you should be given a landing pad at that point.
Thanks guys. It was definitely a bug though--each time I requested landing it would be granted but the tutorial voice told me I'd dropped out of supercruise too soon. Ended up restarting the tutorial and it worked fine
AbandonedTrolley
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Did we get confirmation on the PS4 Pro resolution/frame rates for the Quality/Performance modes yet?
OgTheClever
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I'm guessing no reviewers had access until the server went live last night. At least I've not heard of any private server bring available for journalists on PS4.
The game is a fairly known quantity anyway, with the exception of controls, graphics and performance on PS4.
Reddit AMA with David Braben happening now for PS4 version release
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/6jss3y/ceo_of_frontier_developments_david_braben_ask_me/
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/6jss3y/ceo_of_frontier_developments_david_braben_ask_me/
Reckheim
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Are you guys keeping up with this? Seems one of the Thargoid bases is active! You can go inside and place an Unknown Probe, an Unknown Artifact, and an Unknown Link (new item) in the correct spots to make this happen in the internal chamber!
HOLY SHITBALLS!!!
God damn, that's fucking kool.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
That's some Independence Day shit lol
dripdripsplash
Member
Jeez this is fun!
This is like Eve Online spreadsheets but with wayyy more interactivity.
Love the screens in the cockpit being 'live' and stuff. The whole interface and HUD is very cool. Must be great in VR.
I think I'm going to buy Horizon right now actually.
This is like Eve Online spreadsheets but with wayyy more interactivity.
Love the screens in the cockpit being 'live' and stuff. The whole interface and HUD is very cool. Must be great in VR.
I think I'm going to buy Horizon right now actually.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Are you guys keeping up with this? Seems one of the Thargoid bases is active! You can go inside and place an Unknown Probe, an Unknown Artifact, and an Unknown Link (new item) in the correct spots to make this happen in the internal chamber!
HOLY SHITBALLS!!!
:O
Are you guys keeping up with this? Seems one of the Thargoid bases is active! You can go inside and place an Unknown Probe, an Unknown Artifact, and an Unknown Link (new item) in the correct spots to make this happen in the internal chamber!
HOLY SHITBALLS!!!
Whoa, whoa! Give us PS4 players a chance to catch up. I'm still learning how to launch without accidentally shooting stuff.
I fear by the time I'm up to speed the rest of the galaxy with be knee deep in Thargoid knowledge and artefacts.
XxfinchyxX
Neo Member
Just got this game on ps4 and it's really good but is there a way to look around your ship without tilting the controller.
Press the corners of the DS4 touch pad to access the different screens. That's how I was doing it.
I'd like to disable sixaxis myself though.
Yes that unlocks the camera to look around but you do so by tilting the controller. It's extremely awkward. I'd prefer just to use the right stick.
Clicking the right-thumbstick works on XB1 and PC.
XxfinchyxX
Neo Member
Thanks for the help.
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