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[EmCeeGramr]

Is there a chance you or anyone from SplatGAF can take a direct screenshot using the same weapons? (assuming they're in the game, of course)
That would give a better idea if models and such were at least tweaked a bit.

Those weapon models are different.

(that seaweed on the tank means it's a variant, but that and the barrel color are the only differences from the main model)

Looking at these pictures (from the Splatoon JP twitter)

Far left: New headphones, new hairstyle, new shirt (I'm assuming the gloves are a part of the shirt, as Splatoon 1 had shirts with wristbands), new pants, new shoes, Spat Roller model is redesigned

Left: Clothes look like existing ones, though I don't think I've ever seen those colors of that particular tee and those shoes, though I recognize the design/models, the Splattershot has the new design

Right: Helmet is an existing design at least, the jacket/shirt is new, can't tell with the shoes to say either way, Splat Charger is redesigned

Far right: New hair, respirator is new, striped shirt with elbow length sleeves looks new, full leggings are new, those boots look new, or at least the pattern/coloration is

Far left: New hair, glasses are new, shirt is an existing design, pants are new, boots look new

Left: New hair, new pants, both hoodie and shoes are existing designs

Right: New hair, new jacket, new pants, shoes look new

Far right: New hair, but other than that I can't really tell




edit: Oh, and the ink tanks are new. They used to be yellow and more plasticky, but here they look more metallic and black/gray/silver

 

[Anth0ny]

I think choosing an enhanced Wii U game as the launch pack-in would be a horrible idea, honestly.

I think the best idea for a pack-in would be a game that is compatible with (nearly) every amiibo. Not only works as an ad for amiibo, but as an ad for a ton of games in general.

Barring a later surprise, I don't think Switch really needs a "THIS IS HOW THE GIMMICK WORKS" tech demo mini game collection like the Wii and Wii U had with Wii Sports and Nintendoland.

 

[Triforce141]

I just realized that 3 of the pink colored Inklings don't have any kind of headgear piece, unless all 3 of them coincidentally have the Fake Contacts. For both teams, there are about 3-5 or so pieces of gear from the previous game that return, namely:

+ Green girl's headphones being the Noise Cancellers
+ Middle green boy's Skate Helmet which has Last Ditch Effort on it
+ 1st pink boy potentially having the White Shirt
+ 2nd from left pink girl's shoes are Red Slip Ons and Camo Zip Hoodie

 

[skypunch]

Those weapon models are different.

(that seaweed on the tank means it's a variant, but that and the barrel color are the only differences from the main model)

Looking at these pictures (from the Splatoon JP twitter)



Far left: New headphones, new hairstyle, new shirt (I'm assuming the gloves are a part of the shirt, as Splatoon 1 had shirts with wristbands), new pants, new shoes, Spat Roller model is redesigned

Left: Clothes look like existing ones, though I don't think I've ever seen those colors of that particular tee and those shoes, though I recognize the design/models, the Splattershot has the new design

Right: Helmet is an existing design at least, the jacket/shirt is new, can't tell with the shoes to say either way, Splat Charger is redesigned

Far right: New hair, respirator is new, striped shirt with elbow length sleeves looks new, full leggings are new, those boots look new, or at least the pattern/coloration is




Far left: New hair, glasses are new, shirt is an existing design, pants are new, boots look new

Left: New hair, new pants, both hoodie and shoes are existing designs

Right: New hair, new jacket, new pants, shoes look new

Far right: New hair, but other than that I can't really tell




edit: Oh, and the ink tanks are new. They used to be yellow and more plasticky, but here they look more metallic and black/gray/silver

Cheers for this. Definitely picking this up. The graphics look much better than the Wii U version, and those new hairstyles look awesome. I used to play this religiously back when I had a Wii U.

I wonder if the Switch version will have new modes? I hope so.

 

[PadWarrior]

Inklings look a little taller?

 

[Debirudog]

The more I see the screens, the more I'm led to believe Splatoon Switch is a sequel. Gotta disagree with Emily here.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Not full new games probably, but they are changing so many things already, even mechanics in the case of Mario kart, that is remaster a good name for them?

Like, Splatoon you get even more bonuses thanks to the trousers (thast a gameplay change right there), even the most similar gun model has been graphically tweaked, the stage showed is not in the original game, all the items the characters wear are completly new and the animations and 3d models seem to have been enhaced. Theres new complete designs for things like the reapering platform. Another interesting aspect is that they never showed the map in the second screen, even when playing at the stage and using a second screen.
Who knows if they even expand things like singleplayer?

Same with Mario Kart, the two items is going to make it totally different beast gameplay wise than 8 becuase we all know that how items affect the races is probably the biggest changes between mario karts. Then theres a new character and we can see one of the DLC stages. If it comes with 16 completely new stages (who knows about that at the moment), even if it comes with the same stages as mario kart 8, wouldnt that be more similar to a sequel than a remaster?

Maybe better call them super remasters. Maybe not Mario kart, because we still dont know the content, but what they shown for Splatoon, were there isnt an old thing in any part of the video, thats starting to veer into sequel territory. You basically dont create new model designs for a remaster or enhanced port, were not talking here about more polys on an old model, we are actually talking about completly revamped designs.
We still call year to year Fifas sequels, and not remasters, even if the majority of it is similar to the one year ago version.

 

[egruntz]

Those weapon models are different.

(that seaweed on the tank means it's a variant, but that and the barrel color are the only differences from the main model)

Looking at these pictures (from the Splatoon JP twitter)



Far left: New headphones, new hairstyle, new shirt (I'm assuming the gloves are a part of the shirt, as Splatoon 1 had shirts with wristbands), new pants, new shoes, Spat Roller model is redesigned

Left: Clothes look like existing ones, though I don't think I've ever seen those colors of that particular tee and those shoes, though I recognize the design/models, the Splattershot has the new design

Right: Helmet is an existing design at least, the jacket/shirt is new, can't tell with the shoes to say either way, Splat Charger is redesigned

Far right: New hair, respirator is new, striped shirt with elbow length sleeves looks new, full leggings are new, those boots look new, or at least the pattern/coloration is




Far left: New hair, glasses are new, shirt is an existing design, pants are new, boots look new

Left: New hair, new pants, both hoodie and shoes are existing designs

Right: New hair, new jacket, new pants, shoes look new

Far right: New hair, but other than that I can't really tell




edit: Oh, and the ink tanks are new. They used to be yellow and more plasticky, but here they look more metallic and black/gray/silver

Thank you for this. I've been trying to say that anyone who played Wii U Splat could notice these differences immediately. Didn't have the patience to assemble picks for those who aren't as familiar with the franchise.

"Port" or not — I believe it was ported for quicker development — this will be a new game with a new experience.

 

[i-Jest]

I'm not gonna day 1 those games. Still need to know more about the console.

 

[N.Domixis]

This thing is going to have like 1 or 2 original launch titles and a dozen ports isn't it?

To most people they are new, me for example.

 

[El Pescado]

Well, you couldn't use Mario Maker with the TV on with this thing, and we don't know yet if it has a touchscreen.

It was perfect with the touchscreen, but it's not like it'd be impossible without it.

 

[J@hranimo]

I wish we had a better look at the actual gameplay of the map. It's really hard to distinguish any graphical changes on that map.

 

[oti]

It was perfect with the touchscreen, but it's not like it'd be impossible without it.

😫

Might as well release a companion app for smartphones then to make the levels on a touchscreen.

 

[EDarkness]

I do expect a hefty amount of WiiU games to be ported to the system.

Me, too. Based on the Wii U userbase, there are LOTS of folks who never got to play those games. Bringing them over to the NS would be good business, in my opinion.

 

[M-PG71C]

Bring it on, I still play MK and Splatoon so enhanced ports with new content is a serious win for me.

 

[Jintor]

YOOOO SHORT HAIRED INKLING GIRL

 

[oti]

Me, too. Based on the Wii U userbase, there are LOTS of folks who never got to play those games. Bringing them over to the NS would be good business, in my opinion.

If the NS supports touch (which I assume it will) they could release Toad as a free2start game and monetize the rest of it like an App. They would have to change the controls though.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Those weapon models are different.

(that seaweed on the tank means it's a variant, but that and the barrel color are the only differences from the main model)

Looking at these pictures (from the Splatoon JP twitter)



Far left: New headphones, new hairstyle, new shirt (I'm assuming the gloves are a part of the shirt, as Splatoon 1 had shirts with wristbands), new pants, new shoes, Spat Roller model is redesigned

Left: Clothes look like existing ones, though I don't think I've ever seen those colors of that particular tee and those shoes, though I recognize the design/models, the Splattershot has the new design

Right: Helmet is an existing design at least, the jacket/shirt is new, can't tell with the shoes to say either way, Splat Charger is redesigned

Far right: New hair, respirator is new, striped shirt with elbow length sleeves looks new, full leggings are new, those boots look new, or at least the pattern/coloration is




Far left: New hair, glasses are new, shirt is an existing design, pants are new, boots look new

Left: New hair, new pants, both hoodie and shoes are existing designs

Right: New hair, new jacket, new pants, shoes look new

Far right: New hair, but other than that I can't really tell




edit: Oh, and the ink tanks are new. They used to be yellow and more plasticky, but here they look more metallic and black/gray/silver

The game has a much softer, CGI movie look now (as opposed to the plastic look), and the shadow resolution is WAY higher. Looks really nice.

 

[bman94]

Not interested if true. Not trying to play shit I already played on a new console.

 

[Kito]

Those might not be in game graphics.

 

[Jintor]

Those might not be in game graphics.

it reminds me of the really high res render image they had of splatoon for magazine ads

this and this

 

[Debirudog]

I remember people saying in the initial debut that Smash for Wii U looked like an up-res version of Brawl. As mentioned earlier, it's probably that Splatoon was ported to the system and then later modified to include more additions such as pants and hair styles. I think Nintendo is going to band it as a sequel. It would be an incredibly smart business decision if they manage to push it out on launch.

 

[PepperedHam]

Why are people mad about this? It's all but confirmed at this point that we will see a Splatoon sequel, the game did amazing. But porting your biggest MP game to your new console with enhanced features to offer incentive for that community to come over... that's a good idea no? Doesn't mean we won't get a sequel.

 

[Triforce141]

I wish we had a better look at the actual gameplay of the map. It's really hard to distinguish any graphical changes on that map.

In the words of a certain street urchin, "This is the best I can do"

Spoiler

or is it "could do," whatever?

 

[Regiruler]

it reminds me of the really high res render image they had of splatoon for magazine ads

this and this

Those still fit the style of the original game though.

 

[El Pescado]

😫

Might as well release a companion app for smartphones then to make the levels on a touchscreen.

What if Switch could connect to the Wii U Gamepad?

 

[Joqu]

The more I see the screens, the more I'm led to believe Splatoon Switch is a sequel. Gotta disagree with Emily here.

Yeah. I could totally see Mario Kart be an enhanced port, some definitive version with some additional characters and maybe a stage or two but mostly reusing the old ones, and with the ability to store a second item again changing the gameplay up slightly but not exactly drastically. I'd say that'd be enough to make it feel fresh to Wii U owners, but it wouldn't exactly be sequel territory.

But this Splatoon, with its new assets, equipment class and at least one heavily revamped stage, looks like a significant shake up to me. It doesn't really matter if it started out as a port and is sharing its framework with the Wii U game as a result, if the changes and additions are significant enough it could totally be a sequel. Sequels aren't necessarily built from scratch.

Same could go for Mario Kart of course, but for now it doesn't look like it to me.

 

[KahooTs]

More MK8 is infinitely preferable to them rushing out a whole new MK for around launch.

 

[Silas Lang]

Why are people mad about this? It's all but confirmed at this point that we will see a Splatoon sequel, the game did amazing. But porting your biggest MP game to your new console with enhanced features to offer incentive for that community to come over... that's a good idea no? Doesn't mean we won't get a sequel.

Agreed. Just smart business. Hell, they should launch with the whole WiiU library. Not like those games got full exposure with the WiiU's limited base. I say this as a WiiU owner. I ain't even mad.

 

[Bert]

Smart move IMO, especially as I get a feeling e-sports are going to be big for Nintendo.

Get Smash, Splatoon and MK out early, migrate what Wii U base there is quickly and support all three with extra DLC to increase longevity. You can always add more fighters/arenas/weapons/tracks. Then use all three to push local multiplayer and tournament play.

New Mario and "new" Zelda to open with, a smattering of third parties to fill in the holes and you have

Spoiler

the same blind optimism I approached the last few Nintendo consoles with

a winning formula.

 

[bman94]

Agreed. Just smart business. Hell, they should launch with the whole WiiU library. Not like those games got full exposure with the WiiU's limited base. I say this as a WiiU owner. I ain't even mad.

It perturbs me as a Wii U owner. The only game shown so far that makes me want to buy the console right away is the new Super Mario game. I already got a ton or uses out of Mario Kart 8, Splatoon and Smash on Wii U. Enhanced ports of those games is not making me want to buy this thing on launch. It'll be better for me to wait a year when Nintendo gets some new first party stuff.

 

[Soi-Fong]

Yup, like basically every other launch ever.

PSVR wasn't like this. It had a lot of made-for-VR games and a lot of original games.

 

[Creamium]

I don't really mind in the case of Splatoon, it's one of the few WiiU exclusives I never got around too, and an upgraded version seems pretty much perfect for me. For MK8, as long as they add some tracks or other content, I don't mind either. I just hope this doesn't become a trend post launch. With Nintendo not showing anything for the rest of the year, I just hope they have enough new games up their sleeve as well for the launch window.

 

[secretanchitman]

I will buy Smash, provided the Switch can use the GCN adapter and controllers. Mario Kart as well.

 

[Captain Europe]

If MK8 is a port, then I at least hope it comes with 8 new cups like a regular MK, I'm fine with it being on the same engine as MK8, the engine is damn fine.

 

[BGBW]

More MK8 is infinitely preferable to them rushing out a whole new MK for around launch.

What's the difference apart from one being more honest? Surely a rushed Mario Kart sequel would just be built on top of the MK8 engine so would feel pretty much identical to it.

I don't know why people who missed out on MK8 are happy to get that rather than a brand new MK9. I highly doubt a MK9 would be worse seeing as this is a series that has pretty much improved with every version.

The problem is, Mario Kart has been a one game per gen series, so the idea of not getting a proper new experience doesn't sit well with me as a big Mario Kart fan.

 

[PepperedHam]

What's the difference apart from one being more honest? Surely a rushed Mario Kart sequel would just be built on top of the MK8 engine so would feel pretty much identical to it.

I don't know why people who missed out on MK8 are happy to get that rather than a brand new MK9. I highly doubt a MK9 would be worse seeing as this is a series that has pretty much improved with every version.

The problem is, Mario Kart has been a one game per gen series, so the idea of not getting a proper new experience doesn't sit well with me as a big Mario Kart fan.

How does MK8's port stop us from getting an MK9? You truly don't think we'll see an actual MK9 during the Switch's life cycle because of a MK8 launch port?

 

[watershed]

To everyone who never played either games, since most players of both instantly noticed all the shit on those clips that is not on either of the current games.

That's why they are enhanced ports and not sequels.

 

[Nightmare452]

I don't mind enhanced version of the games, but would definitely appreciate some sort of discount or price for previous owners. I know that Nintendo doesn't owe us anything, and would accept it, but would still feel a little scorned if they made fans who bought Wii U and all these games rebuy em at full price. Maybe if you bought digital, get a $20 discount or something at least. These would feel like rereleases than new entries. All this said, very happy that Splatoon is coming to NS. I would double dip on that one. Wanna support these fresh games as much as possible. I will not double dip on Smash or Kart until I see em at bargain bin prices (which should technically never happen because Nintendo).

 

[OCD Guy]

It perturbs me as a Wii U owner. The only game shown so far that makes me want to buy the console right away is the new Super Mario game. I already got a ton or uses out of Mario Kart 8, Splatoon and Smash on Wii U. Enhanced ports of those games is not making me want to buy this thing on launch. It'll be better for me to wait a year when Nintendo gets some new first party stuff.

Yeah they would need to add significant amount of new content, but by that point they're not ports.

The fact that the Mario Kart footage has two items hints at more than just a straight port, if they can then add a shit load of tracks and playable characters I'd be cool with it, even if the engine is the same as Mario Kart 8.

Nintendo done the DLC right for Mario Kart 8 so I can't see them shitting on people with Mario Kart Switch.

The problem is, Mario Kart has been a one game per gen series, so the idea of not getting a proper new experience doesn't sit well with me as a big Mario Kart fan.

I think I'd be inclined to think Nintendo were taking a new approach if they do release a version of MK 8. I know we're never going to get an annual release, I wouldn't want that anyway, but I could see two Mario Karts.

Given the choice I'd rather have a Mario Kart of some sort at launch as a stop gap than nothing at all.

 

[MannyToons]

The inklings having entirely new animations for starting the match, the design change of the ink tanks, weapons, hairstyles and pants (which would mean additional shops in the plaza) still has me leaning towards this being a sequel. Doesn't necessarily have to be built from the ground up.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

This thing is going to have like 1 or 2 original launch titles and a dozen ports isn't it?

It may be a bit frustrating for Wii U owners, but since the install base isn't that good, I think many will enjoy that (me included). Also, it was the same with PS4 and XB1 at launch.

 

[Jintor]

Those still fit the style of the original game though.

i'm not saying they don't but the overall style is subtly different for new/mag ads

 

[Z..]

I wonder if this means crossplay with WiiU. Either way, I'm glad, less money I have to spend. And these games are all awesome, so this is gonna be a great launch lineup!

Now where's my Metroid?

 

[Calm Mind]

Yeah better get a discount for digital buyers.

You're funny.

 

[prag16]

Not exactly a bad thing if you never had a Wii U.

Yep. But I can't see myself double dipping on any of these.

 

[Melchettsmoustache]

I hope they bring back splatfests if they're really going to port the game over. Providing the game for all those who didn't play wii u but denying them one of the best features isn't sensible.

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

How does MK8's port stop us from getting an MK9? You truly don't think we'll see an actual MK9 during the Switch's life cycle because of a MK8 launch port?

But why do you need an MK9? The hardware doesn't necessarily allow for a 4K HDR ground up game. Why not just build on the foundation of MK8 and Smash, add more content and features, and keep the game fresh. Then you can use the resources to work on new big games for this generation.

 

[-MD-]

This thing is going to have like 1 or 2 original launch titles and a dozen ports isn't it?

I do expect a hefty amount of WiiU games to be ported to the system.

Glad I skipped WiiU.

 

[Debirudog]

I think Nintendo should definitely price the enhanced ports cheaper for everyone actually. It would make the console more appealing for everyone.