NinjamicWZ
Banned
Please port away. I don't have a WiiU and all the physical copies are going up in price too much for me to even try getting one. That started happening before the price ever went down on the system, really.
Emily Rogers: Splatoon Switch is not a sequel, allegedly. Same for Mario Kart.
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aygomyownroad
Member
Yeah. I have a WiiU why should I upgrade to this for the same games?
For the others upcoming games that won't be port and that aren't currently announced (like theses ports aren't announced yet).
I mean, no one owns a Wii U, so it's only logical they make ports for the Switch. I'm glad they are adding additional content, though, so I have a reason to jump in again.
I hope they call it Mario Kart ∞.
Let's be honest, I'd buy Splatoon, MK8 and Smash all over again regardless.
I hope they call it Mario Kart ∞.
You shouldn't, I won't be either. Mario Kart and Smash are already iterative enough, don't need the same games again. Will get Zelda on WiiU and wait.
I think I know the answer to this, but...
My Wii U came with a digital version of Wind Waker.
Is this copy forever tied to that console and will just be gone forever if I sell the Wii U?
I haven't kept up, but am pretty confident that Nintendo hasn't provided a real solution yet for tying digital games to any kind of account system.
My Wii U came with a digital version of Wind Waker.
Is this copy forever tied to that console and will just be gone forever if I sell the Wii U?
I haven't kept up, but am pretty confident that Nintendo hasn't provided a real solution yet for tying digital games to any kind of account system.
balgajo
Member
I made a thread about this some time ago. If that's true I really like the idea.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1110743
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1110743
Benjamin1981
Member
Was it preinstalled or was it a code? A code should be tied to your account. Preinstalled copies are gone forever.
lol
It is literally the same course as MK8.
Why would they show an old track of all things to introduce their new Mario Kart game? Doesn't even make sense.
This teaser only tells us that
- It's Mario Kart 8 based
- Will probably include all the DLC right out of the box
- Will bring back the double items mechanic and characters to mix things up.
Herb Alpert
Banned
you know, I have a WiiU too. There are dozens of WiiU owners out there. Dozens.
That's my plan as well. Going to wait for actual games that I want and don't already own.
VendettaRed07
Member
Because they weren't showing off the new Mario Kart game; they wanted to show off the system with showing as little about the games as possible. We don't even know what it's called. So including a retro track or something we have already seen before would be a good way to "show it without showing it".
It could be Mario Kart 8. But it also could be Mario Kart 9, just using 8's assets. We don't know yet.
TheDinoman
Member
EDIT: NVM
KingJ2002
Member
I skipped the Wii U so I need all of dem games.
I can't even remember.
I want to say it was preinstalled.
It's not like I'm expecting the Switch to have any kind of backward compatibility. It's a pipe dream.
Well now, this changes everything. How awful.
Switch has gone to a sale/price drop purchase at best, pretty unacceptable given how long they've had. I was excited for new games they've been talking up but clearly those are not happening.
Genuinely surprised at how many are supporting this decision by Nintendo (but maybe that's exactly why they are?), I'd not say it's consumer friendly especially given their already premium price on retail games.
Switch has gone to a sale/price drop purchase at best, pretty unacceptable given how long they've had. I was excited for new games they've been talking up but clearly those are not happening.
Genuinely surprised at how many are supporting this decision by Nintendo (but maybe that's exactly why they are?), I'd not say it's consumer friendly especially given their already premium price on retail games.
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Deleted member 465307
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I would hold off on making any conclusions until Nintendo actually announces their software lineup. It seems clear to me that Nintendo is planning a big reveal in a couple months where we'll get all the first-party and third-party announcements. Rumors point to new IPs (internal Nintendo, Retro) and other games being planned for Switch. We don't yet know how many first-party games there will be in the first year of the hardware and what they will be, so it's hard to say that this rumor is indicative of anything about the system.
Those updates will probably add meaningful new content like new courses and new maps. Maybe over Switch's lifespan too, "games as services".
Plus there's Zelda at launch. And probably a brand new IP, similar to Splatoon.
Yes, of course if this turns out to be total nonsense and we get those new titles then it does change things again... But haven't most been saying the source has been completely vindicated now ergo this is likely to also be bang on the money?
So basically charging full price for what would be considered DLC in the majority of other games? 'Games as services' is automatically good thing now too? For games with a heavy online presence, sure, but how many of those are we expected to see or have seen on Ninty platforms? One thing a lot of people praise Nintendo for is their firm stance on the opposite of these trends; strong retail presence, complete games upon launch, no nickle and diming, offline functionality, etc.
I have a perfectly good (now slightly neglected) Wii U which will happily run the new Zelda and has all these upcoming games already. New IP will be interesting, however. Wonder if Wii U port is also possible given its seemingly sharing so much?
Magnet_Man
Member
You haven't thought the implications through.
Having the entire map along with potentially the positions of all enemy members if tagged visible at the press of a button would all but destroy a vital gameplay mechanic / strategy like flanking and would make sharking extremely overpowered.
For example if spawn camped, all it takes is for one enemy with a strong kill weapon like a charger, blaster, or dynamo to hang back and then watch the map to see where enemy ink is forming as they try to escape and then easily intercept them at the choke point. Or when playing Splatzones and you have the zones locked down, all it takes is checking the map every few seconds to see when an enemy is trying for a flank. Like on Triggerfish if you see enemy ink forming near the rope bridge, you know someone is trying to sneak up behind you, making them easy pray to be intercepted and make a recovery for the other team even harder.
Requiring the player to physically look away from the TV where the action is to see all the information that the map provides is an essential part of the game's balance. If we're going to take that aspect away, then the map system itself is going to need to be nerfed, like not making ink or tagged enemies appear on it.
I'm genuinely concerned about what the Switch's changes are going to do to the game, especially since Nintendo wants to push this as possibly an "esport". Maybe they have some ideas that fix everything, but since Nintendo has decided for some insane reason to be tight-lipped about it so we're just left to speculate and worry when we should be excited.
Davey Cakes
Member
All the people who skipped the Wii U are going to be in absolute LOVE with the Nintendo Switch due to these ports. Seriously.
There's a reason why, despite the Wii U's faults, a lot of fans love the console. It's because of the games.
Going for the Switch will be amazing for those who've never experienced those incredible games before. How I envy those of you who skipped the Wii U, seriously.
There's a reason why, despite the Wii U's faults, a lot of fans love the console. It's because of the games.
Going for the Switch will be amazing for those who've never experienced those incredible games before. How I envy those of you who skipped the Wii U, seriously.
Even if these are enhanced ports, if they meaningfully add more on top of the existing framework of the WiiU versions (MK8, Splatoon, and probably Smash Bros), then I won't mind.
Mario Kart 8 in particular felt a bit lackluster features-wise to its predecessors. This time alongside some more characters and tracks, a restructured battle mode, a returning mission mode, and the possibility of new modes on top of that sounds really exciting.
Mario Kart 8 in particular felt a bit lackluster features-wise to its predecessors. This time alongside some more characters and tracks, a restructured battle mode, a returning mission mode, and the possibility of new modes on top of that sounds really exciting.
Shikamaru Ninja
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The problem here lies in the language. I think we all see that Nintendo has an idea of producing updated and expanded editions of Mario Kart, Splatoon, and Smash Bros. Some people are using the word "port" and "remaster" which are open to interpretation, but those usually mean - same game on different machine. We may need to look at these games the same way we look at updated versions of sports games, or arcade games that have featured smaller updates and were given a subtitle to indicate they were "different games".
All three are work-in-progress (assuming Smash), and we will have to wait for official confirmation on how much the content and visuals are being upgraded.
All three are work-in-progress (assuming Smash), and we will have to wait for official confirmation on how much the content and visuals are being upgraded.
Serious Sam
Member
For me as a WiiU owner all these launch remakes/rereleases are disappointing, but if that helps NS gain traction which would result in better new games in the future then so be it. Maybe I'll even double dip if these games have big enough upgrade like 1080p and better graphics.
WiiU library is very limited anyway, so there's just that much they can port until they have to start releasing new stuff.
WiiU library is very limited anyway, so there's just that much they can port until they have to start releasing new stuff.
EvilRedEye
Member
Mario Kart 8 port seems quite odd to me as the tentpole Mario releases are normally a once-a-generation thing. I would have thought they'd be more likely to slap a complete set of new courses in a ported Mario Kart 8 engine and market it as Mario Kart 9.
everytime I watch any old MK footage, I'm really impressed by how driving controls in MK8.
There's x,y, z to compare to other games, but eff driving hasn't felt really good until MK8 imo.
SuperBlank
Member
I'm all about that enhanced Smash port.
Dunno if I'm going to double dip on Kart or Splatoon though. Especially since they obv will get actual sequels on the Switch at some point.
Dunno if I'm going to double dip on Kart or Splatoon though. Especially since they obv will get actual sequels on the Switch at some point.
Claude Augario
Member
I knew we'd get stupid waiting for this thing but this continuous notion that these ports are all launch games and nothing original is coming possibly ever is pretty wild even for GAF. Let's wait for actual software announcements and launch details before flailing our arms like the sky is falling.
This is not even remotely close to what I was trying to say but nice try..
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, that would make sense. I'm totally okay with it if it's in case, at long every games are getting new contents.
Do you know what is sad thing about me? I actually don't mind to see Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Splatoon become annual titles, just like Call of Duty and Assassin Creed (at least it was) because I would pick them up on day 1.
(Edited: I know making those franchise as annual titles are going to be bad for Nintendo because people are going to get burned out at the point somewhen.)
You do know how many people did not buy a Wii U or played these great games. It's smart to broaden theses games. Of course this is not the only line up, so no point in creating a conclusion on the support yet.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
Mario Kart doesnt change all that much between iterations so I don't see the point of a port.
Smash I could see considering all the DLC and there's a good chance there won't be other Smash in a good while.
As for Splatoon, it could go either way.
Smash I could see considering all the DLC and there's a good chance there won't be other Smash in a good while.
As for Splatoon, it could go either way.
I say good because Nintendo devoted a lot of time and resources to those games, and the Wii U sold like shit. This will justify that time and those resources, allow for a swifter release, and get the teams working on proper sequels while potentially millions more people are enjoying these games for the first time.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
If they're ports, I hope I get a discount given I've bought both Mario Kart and Smash digitally.
Dark Cloud
Member
Mario Kart didn't get the sales it deserved.
Dunnymeister
Member
Ports are fine. These games are about the content, and if these are expansions and not just ports them I'm all in. Mario Kart and Splatoon's DLC strategy felt like theft anyway - I've already received way more value than I paid for. I can only hope they offer a similar DLC plan with the expansions!
I think the most exciting thing about a MK:8 expansion is new tracks = new songs. New MK8 music. New MK8 music. Can't get enough of that OST.
I think the most exciting thing about a MK:8 expansion is new tracks = new songs. New MK8 music. New MK8 music. Can't get enough of that OST.
Sure, as soon as this doesn't mean actual sequels are being held back because of these when likely the majority of people who will first get the Switch likely owned a Wii U and those games with it...
LegendofLex
Member
I think we can probably guess that Mario Kart, Smash, and Splatoon will feature most of or all of the content from the Wii U games at a minimum, with new enhancements like the ones we saw in the Switch trailer.
If all that content is present, it's definitely accurate to call these enhanced ports. That'd mean the Wii U games will be ported over to Switch and expanded upon.
Blergh I'm not happy about these updated ports
I own Mario kart 8, splatoon and smash 4 while I liked these games very very much, I'm pretty much done playing these games and am very ready to move on to the next versions.
I put hundreds of hours into smash 4 especially. Idk I might get smash 4.5 but that's cause I'm a smash junky. But really this needed to be splatoon 2, not 1.5 :/
If switch launch window is riddled with ports and not new games as a Wii u owner I'll be disappointed. No reason to buy these same experience again with few updates.
I'm pretty sure Nintendo being Nintendo will charge full price for these ports too
Also mk8 sold like 8million units. Don't tell me it didn't sell enough.. It's been more than 2 years, we should be getting Mario kart 9, not 8.8....
I own Mario kart 8, splatoon and smash 4 while I liked these games very very much, I'm pretty much done playing these games and am very ready to move on to the next versions.
I put hundreds of hours into smash 4 especially. Idk I might get smash 4.5 but that's cause I'm a smash junky. But really this needed to be splatoon 2, not 1.5 :/
If switch launch window is riddled with ports and not new games as a Wii u owner I'll be disappointed. No reason to buy these same experience again with few updates.
I'm pretty sure Nintendo being Nintendo will charge full price for these ports too
Also mk8 sold like 8million units. Don't tell me it didn't sell enough.. It's been more than 2 years, we should be getting Mario kart 9, not 8.8....
I am sure those people will be happy with Zelda and Mario and Metroid. Nintendo is not going to say "hey, those Wii U owners already played these games. We owe them sequels asap, whether or not we can turn these enhanced ports over in an eighth of the time and sell millions of copies."
Edit: Ok maybe not Metroid, but Retro's game at least
Double edit: The Wii U has some amazing games that deserve to be played by more people, and I see no problem with mixing those games, in an enhanced fashion, into the lineup along with the new games.
I am sure those people will be happy with Zelda and Mario and Metroid. Nintendo is not going to say "hey, those Wii U owners already played these games. We owe them sequels asap, whether or not we can turn these enhanced ports over in an eighth of the time and sell millions of copies."
Edit: Ok maybe not Metroid, but Retro's game at least
Mario will take a while more likely, Zelda got to see if what are the benefits of Zelda on Switch compared to Zelda on Wii U, and who knows what the hell Retro is doing or when it's coming out even. So yeah so far only Zelda in terms of games and even that's even coming out on Wii U.
Like I said before, at first likely the majority of people getting this will also be people that got a Wii U and even more likely has those games already.
EndlessSky
Member
Why are people getting so worked up over the word port? From what I saw of what people were hoping for in a sequel to splatoon was more clothing options, new maps, and a new, more expansive story mode. This "enhanced port" gives us newly customizable hair, gloves, and pants, along with even more options for what we could customize before (hat, shirt and shoes). It also showed a new map, and even what looked to be a new spawn platform.
If it is truly a port, then I doubt we'll get anymore to the single player mode, but that has always been a pretty short secondary add on to the game anyway. For most intents and purposes, we can call this a sequel from what we have seen. I bet we'll even get new kinds of weapons, since we got a few completely different kinds of weapons like the bucket in patches a year after release.
If it is truly a port, then I doubt we'll get anymore to the single player mode, but that has always been a pretty short secondary add on to the game anyway. For most intents and purposes, we can call this a sequel from what we have seen. I bet we'll even get new kinds of weapons, since we got a few completely different kinds of weapons like the bucket in patches a year after release.
I'm taking the wait and see approach with Switch. Zelda is the only thing I really want they've shown and I'm perfectly fine playing that on my WiiU. I'd most likely get the Smash port if it added decent extra content but kart and Splatoon aren't even maybe for me. The new Mario is a given but I don't think that will be anywhere near launch anyway. They really need to blow me away with new games when we get the next Switch Direct for me to even consider getting it at launch.
Respectfully: We don't know anything about Mario's state of development, but we do know that it has had lots of time to be developed already. And I think you might be underestimating the amount of early adopters who don't own a Wii U, for real. But we will see... you may be right.
Neoleo2143
Member
I love enhanced ports. Ninja Gaiden Black is one of the best games ever and that's an enhanced version (not really a "port" though). Enhanced ports allow going back to games to fix up some stuff and make things tighter in addition to adding cool content. That's easily worthy of a sale if the content added is good because it can make a good game into an absolute classic (like NG1 to NGB). Plus, if these are enhanced ports, Nintendo's going to include something cool because they don't need to make weird controls for them.
GhostTrick
Banned
That is, if said games happens. Considering Wii U happened, I think it's not guaranteed for NS to have a great 1st party output.