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Enlightened Season 2 |OT| Even agents of change get cancelled sometimes.
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AuthenticM
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I thought it felt like a series finale. Has a third season been confirmed ? I hope the two-episode-less season is not foreshadowing a bleak future for the show.
Beyonce Beytwice
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When Connie told Amy "I'll pray for you" and Amy responded with "Likewise", was she being sarcastic, just playing along, or sincere? Either of the three could be in-character in its own way, but the interpretation of the scene (along with Amy's considerable growth as a person compared to when we first met her, which she amply demonstrated at other points in this episode) changes significantly with her intention, so it left me wondering.
Dr. Feel Good
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I loved the,
"You're the worst employee I've ever had."
"You're the worst boss I've ever had."
"Give me a call sometime."
Dougie is the man.
"You're the worst employee I've ever had."
"You're the worst boss I've ever had."
"Give me a call sometime."
Dougie is the man.
I laughed so hard at that part. So many nice touches throughout the episode.
It drives me crazy to think that this show may get cancelled. Is there anything we can do? lol
I know. I don't think we'll hear today. Still.
RatskyWatsky
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Me too. I actually felt really bad for Krista, despite what she's acted like in the past. She really didn't deserve to be treated that way, though in Amy's mind she was the only one who could have spilled the beans. I felt like their relationship was pretty much mended in episode 7, but now I feel like it's been irreparably damaged.
Spam HBO's twitter with RENEW ENLIGHTENED tweets. Call and tell them you'll cancel your subscription if they cancel Enlightened.
If it were to be renewed, I think we might have heard already.
Just get it over with, HBO. You had a real gem on your hands. I can't fault you.
dead souls
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Every Enlightened viewer could cancel their subscription, even though we all know they won't, and it would feel like a mosquito bite to HBO.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Not necessarily. It took them forever to renew season 1.
Maybe, but I feel like the threat of cancelling your subscription would make more of an impact than tweeting some hashtag or something.
dead souls
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Oh sure, I just don't think either will have that much of an effect on HBO. I still hope it gets renewed, I just don't think we can really do anything to influence the decision unfortunately.
AuthenticM
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Let's hope HBO is aware of this.
I don't think HBO hears anything other than lavish praise and hype for Girls.
Okay, enough Girls jokes...yes, I hope HBO is aware. But I think giving the show a second season is the tough "renew or cancel" decision they already made. Just from the sound of how hard the show has been fighting for its life according to Mike White, I remain skeptical.
Hey, if it's not renewed, it went out with one hell of a bang.
this really had the feel of a Series finale. It was like watching a mini series TBH.
great job by all involved and if it goes away I feel closure.
Honestly don't know where they would go with these characters from here.
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rewatching the episode it struck me how calm Amy became during the realization she was found out and was getting fired and that they were scared of what she'd done. She went from a manic hyper-emotional person, in general, to being transformed in that moment to a person at peace.
Really cool to see
great job by all involved and if it goes away I feel closure.
Honestly don't know where they would go with these characters from here.
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rewatching the episode it struck me how calm Amy became during the realization she was found out and was getting fired and that they were scared of what she'd done. She went from a manic hyper-emotional person, in general, to being transformed in that moment to a person at peace.
Really cool to see
Supposedly, it's pretty up in the air. The positive buzz the series has gotten over the past few weeks hasn't falled on deaf ears, though.
dead souls
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It's got to be a tough decision for HBO to make. It's too bad that HBO hasn't ever been able to successfully program scripted stuff on anything other than Sunday nights. It leaves them with a lot of programming to air in around 96 hours a year.
If I had to put money on it, and going just on my gut versus anything particularly concrete, I would say it gets renewed. I think it's turned in a show that really helps their brand.
That could just be me trying to project my own wishes, though.
Written as a very conclusive season finale that has threads that could absolutely be explored in season 3.
Eggplant Wizard
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Do we know why it's suddenly become so difficult for HBO to renew low-rated series? I don't remember any drama when Treme and Hung were renewed for their third seasons. Is Game of Thrones taking up a huge space in HBO's budget or what?
i've found myself mentally returning to the final shot of the season constantly since it aired. it's so uplifting and gorgeous. if the worst happens i'm glad that is its final statement, and it's going to be hard to beat if it's not.
just listened to this. that stuff about his dad whisteblowing on homophobic evangelical churches and dealing with the reaction was fascinating.
just listened to this. that stuff about his dad whisteblowing on homophobic evangelical churches and dealing with the reaction was fascinating.
Hung wasn't a low rated series.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Hung wasn't low rated and Treme has David Simon behind it.
Salon: “Enlightened” makes us all into Amy Jellicoes
Think Progress: ‘Enlightened,’ Aaron Swartz And The Consequences Of Activism
"Enlightened" Is One Of The Few Things To Make Me Feel Less Alone In This World, And I Beg You Not To Take It Away From Me, HBO
The Nation: HBO, Renew 'Enlightened' Already!
Think Progress: ‘Enlightened,’ Aaron Swartz And The Consequences Of Activism
"Enlightened" Is One Of The Few Things To Make Me Feel Less Alone In This World, And I Beg You Not To Take It Away From Me, HBO
The Nation: HBO, Renew 'Enlightened' Already!
crackhead_bob
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I've watched his father's interviews on CNN in the past. He seems to have alot more integrity than people like Ted Haggard. Like his son has said in interviews, however, it puzzles me why his father feels compelled to plead for acceptance by a community that will never be receptive to him on account of his sexual orientation. It's a weird approval complex. And these people are so wretched to begin with, why would he want to waste his time. They're already dying out, and the younger ones will never achieve the widespread appeal of guys like Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell. Robertson, Billy Graham, and James Dobson are the last of the old guard. Who do they have now to supplant them once they pass on? And this is who Mel White feels the need to prostrate himself to. It just staggers me that it hasn't dawned on him yet that redemption comes from within.
I will say this, however. If the legacy of one's life is measured in the quality of their children, I can confidently say that Mel has produced quite a fine addition to the human race.... a distinction that the likes of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Billy Graham could only hope to achieve.
Hey Anaron. Have you ever seen Six Feet Under before? I'm a huge fan of that series and realized recently that the guy who plays Amy's dickish supervisor played the best friend of one of Claire's boyfriends who O'D'ed on embalming fluid.
Spotless Mind
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Brilliant finale and season. HBO, you better fucking pick this up!!
Amy was fucking on fire this episode. I love that she was completely blind to the obvious - that being Tyler spilling the beans and going off on Krista. White is unafraid to make her somewhat unlikable and i appreciate that. The nods to the Pilot were also great.
Amy was fucking on fire this episode. I love that she was completely blind to the obvious - that being Tyler spilling the beans and going off on Krista. White is unafraid to make her somewhat unlikable and i appreciate that. The nods to the Pilot were also great.
crackhead_bob
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If the show is cancelled, what are the chances that Netflix might produce new episodes?
dead souls
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No chance at all. It's either HBO or nothing.
crackhead_bob
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I don't know why HBO is hesitating. It's probably less costly to produce than other shows because of its low episode count. Shows like Game of Thrones are the budget gluttons. I don't understand why Girls is so popular, and they're actually contemplating kicking this show to the curb. It's just another serial dating show like Sex and the City and Entourage, except with a different coat of paint.
crackhead_bob
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You really should do yourself a favor and check it out. It's the best show ever produced. At the very least, it will give you favorite show a serious run for its money. Timm had a very small role in it. His most signifigant moment was the episode where he nearly o'd's on embalming fluid in the second season. He was in a few episodes of the first season, but he was always playing second banana to Eric Balfour's character.
I really like Enlightened. It's the best show I've seen in years to the point I will say this: Cancelling Enlightened before Mike White has a chance to finish telling his story would be akin to Six Feet Under being given the axe without being allowed to give itself the ending that it deserved.
I think Mike White shares the same kindred sensibility that Six Feet Under's creator, Alan Ball has.
I enjoy the crime dramas that HBO puts out, but it's the shows that explore humanity without the flashy props that win my heart in the end. Six Feet Under had an incredible cast up and down its main and supporting roster, and was blessed with the most gifted and disciplined set of writers one could hope for. And not only was it given the send off to end all send offs, but it had a great leadup into the final moments of its finale.
I'm curious if any other fans of enlightened also enjoyed Six Feet Under. I found Laura Dern's performance to have some of the same subtle qualities that Frances Conroy had as Ruth Fisher.
I really like Enlightened. It's the best show I've seen in years to the point I will say this: Cancelling Enlightened before Mike White has a chance to finish telling his story would be akin to Six Feet Under being given the axe without being allowed to give itself the ending that it deserved.
I think Mike White shares the same kindred sensibility that Six Feet Under's creator, Alan Ball has.
I enjoy the crime dramas that HBO puts out, but it's the shows that explore humanity without the flashy props that win my heart in the end. Six Feet Under had an incredible cast up and down its main and supporting roster, and was blessed with the most gifted and disciplined set of writers one could hope for. And not only was it given the send off to end all send offs, but it had a great leadup into the final moments of its finale.
I'm curious if any other fans of enlightened also enjoyed Six Feet Under. I found Laura Dern's performance to have some of the same subtle qualities that Frances Conroy had as Ruth Fisher.
BenjaminBirdie
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Six Feet Under had its best moments when they were grounded in reality, but sadly they had big storylines in the first season (Guliardi) and then entire seasons, where they totally went full Soap Opera in the most obnoxious ways. Season 5 turned it around a bit, but I have the unpopular opinion that the finale should have ended ten minutes before it actually did.
It still some of the best performances ever from Peter Krause and Rachel Griffiths.
It still some of the best performances ever from Peter Krause and Rachel Griffiths.
dead souls
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They're probably hesitating because the ratings for this show are catastrophically bad. Since HBO only airs scripted stuff on Sundays they have a very limited number of hours in which to program a lot of shows.
I'd love to see Enlightened season three, but if HBO decides they'd rather air stuff that gets higher ratings than a test pattern would I can't really blame them.
crackhead_bob
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Slotting any show in the same hour as The Walking Dead and Good Wife isn't helpful. however. Maybe putting it on tuesday or thurday could help.
av club's todd van de werff tweeted that they've done a walkthrough with mike white for enlightened season 2 (like this freaks and geeks one which i enjoyed very much). should be interesting.
i should probably not bump this thread anymore without renewal news
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
You mean Enlightened? Putting an already low rated HBO show on any day other than a Sunday would be disastrous. See: Bored to Death season 3 and Enlightened season 1.
well last year it was on Mondays but the switch to Sunday barely helped.
I think the writing is on the wall.
well last year it was on Mondays but the switch to Sunday barely helped.
I think the writing is on the wall.
If they were going to renew it based on season one's lukewarm reception and even worse ratings, cancelling what is now being widely referred to as "the best show on TV", just does not make sense for me.
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