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[geordiemp]

Yesterday Sony presented their entire TV lineup to the press, covering not only high end models presented at CES but also mid and lowrange models.

3D is dead, no 2017 TV from them supports it.Every TV will support HDR10 and all 2017 and HDR compatible 2016 models will get update for HLG standard for broadcast HDR codec. A1, ZD9 XE94 and XE93 will also support Dolby Vision. Sony is touting that all these TVs will be great for HDR gaming with PS4.

Full breakdown of their basic capabilities @ http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/sony-bravia-tv-series-model-numbers-explained
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So all I look for in a TV for gaming is input lag.

No mention of it, yet its the first number most gamers look for in a credible HDR TV.

Baffling. You would think Sony with half a brain would make a TV playstation brand with ultra low input lag (10 ms or less). It would sell well.

Is the KS8000 still the only decent option ?

 

[SLV]

A 43 inch 4k tv seems absurd to me, but I just checked and Samsung make a 40 inch one.

Oh, I don't know, it works very well in my bedroom mounted to the ceiling,2 - 3 meters from my face.

40 inch KU6472

 

[LewieP]

That's good to know. It is absurd, but unfortunately I've got to work with the hand I've already been dealt

My post wasn't intended to be directed at you, I hadn't actually seen your post.

I think you'd be better off getting a 1080p TV.

 

[Elixist]

So all I look for in a TV for gaming is input lag.

No mention of it, yet its the first number most gamers look for in a credible HDR TV.

Baffling. You would think Sony with half a brain would make a TV playstation brand with ultra low input lag (10 ms or less). It would sell well.

Is the KS8000 still the only decent option ?

sony has been good to decent on this front havent they? these should be fine we'll see.

 

[deadlast]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2017/02/09/sonys-2017-tv-line-up-with-prices/#6f463c453a19

Some pricing in here. I believe these are estimates.

 

[boredandlazy]

sony has been good to decent on this front havent they? these should be fine we'll see.

Sony were amazing in the late-1080p era. They were pretty average to downright bad in the recent 4K era. They're on the improve though.

 

[jbueno]

720p TV sure is nice for 360/PS3/WiiU, don't like how those games look on my Sony 1080P set. Wouldn't mind acquiring one if cheap enough.

 

[WadeitOut]

Sony were amazing in the late-1080p era. They were pretty average to downright bad in the recent 4K era. They're on the improve though.

If it wasn't for people on GAF buying that KS8000 I'd probably rarely hear about their TV.

Samsung stole their lunch.

 

[Melchiah]

The X90 with its local dimming sounds like a nice option for budget enthusiast.

 

[Mohasus]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2017/02/09/sonys-2017-tv-line-up-with-prices/#6f463c453a19

Some pricing in here. I believe these are estimates.

Aw fuck, it isn't 720p but 768p.

 

[DBT85]

Had no issues at all with lag on my XD93. Cracking TV.

Samsung makes sonys panels...

Do they make all of them?

 

[demosthenes]

Hope we get more info on 2017. Looking to finally get: 4k, oled, hdr.

 

[III-V]

Pricing is out.

4K HDR TV Ultra HD Models and Prices

XBR-75X940E, 75" class (74.5" diagonal), $7,499.99 MSRP
XBR-65X930E, 65" class (64.5" diagonal), $3,999.99 MSRP
XBR-55X930E, 55" class (54.6" diagonal), $3,299.99 MSRP
XBR-75X900E, 75" class (74.5" diagonal), $5,999.99 MSRP
XBR-65X900E, 65" class (64.5" diagonal), $3,299.99 MSRP
XBR-55X900E, 55" class (54.6" diagona), $2,399.99 MSRP
XBR-49X900E, 49" class (48.5" diagonal), $1,699.99 MSRP
XBR-75X850E, 75" class (74.5" diagonal), $4,999.99 MSRP
XBR-65X850E, 65" class (64.5" diagonal), $2,499.99 MSRP
XBR-55X800E, 55" class (54.6" diagonal), $1,899.99 MSRP
XBR-49X800E, 49" class (48.5" diagonal), $1,099.99 MSRP
XBR-43X800E, 43" class (42.5" diagonal), $999.99 MSRP

It could be a mistake - IN FACT IT LIKELY IS -, but best buy lists the 43X800E as dolby vision compatable.

"High dynamic range (HDR) creates a more realistic picture
Coupled with Dolby Vision content that delivers a dramatic visual experience, HDR elevates picture quality with the remarkable brightness, extremely high contrast and captivating color"

 

[vivftp]

Samsung makes sonys panels...

Sony buys their panels on the open market so they could concievably come from anywhere.

 

[geordiemp]

sony has been good to decent on this front havent they? these should be fine we'll see.

They used to be a few years ago, my W905 is around 10 ms....Then they went poor and into lag territory,

Will buy a new set this year maybe, but wont go over 20 ms in game mode with HDR.

 

[deadlast]

http://www.sony-asia.com/corporate/...yExpandsits4KHDRHighDynamicRangeTVLine-up.pdf

32 inch is only 720p... I need a 32 but I'm not going back to 720p

 

[wildfire]

That's good news. Makes it mildly easier to choose a TV because it's one less feature I have to verify even though there are known differences in quality in HDR implementation.

 

[unknownstranger]

Pricing is out.

4K HDR TV Ultra HD Models and Prices

XBR-75X940E, 75” class (74.5” diagonal), $7,499.99 MSRP
XBR-65X930E, 65” class (64.5” diagonal), $3,999.99 MSRP
XBR-55X930E, 55” class (54.6” diagonal), $3,299.99 MSRP
XBR-75X900E, 75” class (74.5” diagonal), $5,999.99 MSRP
XBR-65X900E, 65” class (64.5” diagonal), $3,299.99 MSRP
XBR-55X900E, 55” class (54.6” diagona), $2,399.99 MSRP
XBR-49X900E, 49” class (48.5” diagonal), $1,699.99 MSRP
XBR-75X850E, 75” class (74.5” diagonal), $4,999.99 MSRP
XBR-65X850E, 65” class (64.5” diagonal), $2,499.99 MSRP
XBR-55X800E, 55” class (54.6” diagonal), $1,899.99 MSRP
XBR-49X800E, 49” class (48.5” diagonal), $1,099.99 MSRP
XBR-43X800E, 43” class (42.5” diagonal), $999.99 MSRP

It could be a mistake - IN FACT IT LIKELY IS -, but best buy lists the 43X800E as dolby vision compatable.

"High dynamic range (HDR) creates a more realistic picture
Coupled with Dolby Vision content that delivers a dramatic visual experience, HDR elevates picture quality with the remarkable brightness, extremely high contrast and captivating color"

Was probably very unlikely but I was hoping the 49 inch would be under $1,000.

 

[Mindwipe]

Was probably very unlikely but I was hoping the 49 inch would be under $1,000.

Retailers will price those models pretty aggressively I expect.

 

[wnt]

Are they on VA or IPS? Any info?

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Is the input lag improved?

 

[AuthenticM]

I am seriously considering buying a new TV this year. I've been tired of gaming on my 22-inch TV for the past seven years.

 

[Gamerman1]

And yet Samsung is putting HDR in KU6000, which is utterly pointless since it does not utilizes WCG. Sony's entry level X800D from 2016 meanwhile has a excellent color gamut.

Just got a Samsung 6290 55 inch. Watched Goliath in 4k on old Vizio. Looked good. Then watched in 4k in HDR on 6290 and I could def see a difference in the lighting and bright highlights. May not be full spec but its an improvement on a budget.

Lot of SONY panels are IPS and have less contrast ratio because of it. My friend bought an LG 55 inch 4k tv even though I told him dont. Has that RGBW shit and IPS panel hits less than 900:1 contrast. But hey the color is good lol. He brought it back for a 55 inch Samsung KU7000.

Edit. Woot!! Best Buy has the 6290 100 bucks cheaper today then what I paid for it on Saturday. $499. Went and got 100 bucks back. Bargain!

 

[ClearData]

To get me to upgrade I need an OLED HDR panel with low input lag. I need it all. If not I'm better served by staying with my 1080p LG set and waiting for the price and features to hit a nice curve.

 

[DieH@rd]

A bit more detail about the entry X800E models [successor of popular X800D/XD80xx]:


X800E/X850E Series

Boasting similar features and performance, the X800E and X850E series are differentiated primarily by screen size — 43-, 49-, and 55-inch models make up the X800E series. The 65- and 75-inch variants get the X850E badge, but they also get a new chip offering HDR Pro Remastering for an HDR-like experience with non-HDR content, and Super Bit Mapping for smoother color gradations as well. As the entry level to Sony's LED/LCD TV line, one might think Sony skimped on the X800E series' processing and picture quality, but this segment is loaded with top-tier tech that's been trickled down from higher-end models, including Sony's excellent 4K X-reality Pro processing chip, and its Triluminous Display technology for expanded color gamut and increased color accuracy.

In addition to Google's Android TV operating system, Sony has also built in Google's Home assistant, allowing for voice-based interaction and commands.

Suggested retail pricing is as follows:

XBR-75X850E, 75-inch class — $5,000
XBR-65X850E, 65-inch class — $2,500
XBR-55X800E, 55-inch class — $1,900
XBR-49X800E, 49-inch class — $1,100
XBR-43X800E, 43-inch class — $1,000
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-t...ltra-hd-tv-lineup-pricing-availability-specs/


Fun fact, 43X800D was launced at the price of $1,299, while 49" variant started at $1,499.