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[Randy Lanzarote]

The FA won't hire anyone who will rock the boat or potentially cause upset/controversy. So once again it'll be a 'safe' pair of hands who will have no issue navigating group matches against Estonia/Faro Islands/San Marino, but will be completely out of their depth once they get to a tournament. Plus it'll provide a few months of 'inquiry' work for the FA Board after each tournament.

Which is a shame, as a lot of the players need a kick up the arse and a few home truths made public from time-to-time.

Who is the English Roy Keane equivalent?

 

[The_Hitcher89]

The FA won't hire anyone who will rock the boat or potentially cause upset/controversy. So once again it'll be a 'safe' pair of hands who will have no issue navigating group matches against Estonia/Faro Islands/San Marino, but will be completely out of their depth once they get to a tournament. Plus it'll provide a few months of 'inquiry' work for the FA Board after each tournament.

Which is a shame, as a lot of the players need a kick up the arse and a few home truths made public from time-to-time.

Who is the English Roy Keane equivalent?

Neil Warnock

 

[GoldenCrow]

The fact that people are talking about Sherwood and Howe shows exactly how dire the situation has become.

Exactly. But you never get the best coaches in international football anyway (except oddities like Conte) because if they are the best they can get much better jobs.

 

[Uzzy]

The fact that people are talking about Sherwood and Howe shows exactly how dire the situation has become.

Who was the last English manager to actually win something? Redknapp won the FA Cup with Portsmouth in 2008, but nothing really comes to mind after that.

Shame that Neville's stock fell so much after that disastrous spell at Valencia. That was the kind of bold move that I admire, but the actual managerial stuff wasn't too admirable.

 

[Number45]

Posted?

https://twitter.com/UmbroUK/status/747534162920374273

England were good when we made the kits...

Spoiler

It would be funnier if it were true.

 

[Baleoce]

Who is the English Roy Keane equivalent?

Those two lads that manage Salford City. I'd pay money to see an England team talk with those two xD

 

[Majine]

Fun factz: Only 650 people on Iceland didn't watch the game last night.

 

[PillarEN]

Fun factz: Only 650 people on Iceland didn't watch the game last night.

Probably a bunch of nerds playing vidya gamez.

 

[MrS]

Would like to see what an England team managed by Gazza would look like

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

Fun factz: Only 650 people on Iceland didn't watch the game last night.

Damn, that's amazing.

 

[CelticKnight]

Gareth Southgate being favourite to succeed Roy Hodgson as England manager is "scary", says Harry Redknapp.

Hodgson resigned on Monday after England were knocked out of Euro 2016 in the last 16 by minnows Iceland.

But Redknapp said Southgate was only seen as a favourite for the job because he had won a "second-rate tournament" with England's Under-21s in Toulon.

"Why should he get it in front of Steve Bruce and Sam Allardyce, who are proven managers?" asked the former QPR boss.

When it was suggested that Southgate knew the way the Football Association worked as well as the English "system", Redknapp responded: "Knows what system? The losing system? He knows the losing formula?

"I like Gareth Southgate, he's a great lad, but what's he done?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36648824

He's only saying that 'cos the dodgy fucker wants it for himself... even if it is probably true.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Don't give it to Big Sam. He'd probably actually achieve something.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Why the fuck should the manager care how the FA operate anyway?

Make the players available, carry on trying to fix the youth structure, set up suitable friendlies, let me choose my staff, let me do my job. Done.

Let the pricks like Dyke piss about with the red tape.

 

[Tubie]

Icelandic Football
‏@icelandfootball
HAHAHA! How the Icelandic national team was picked, this is absolutely hilarious!! #football #Iceland #Euro2016

lol

 

[tomtom94]

"Don't pick Southgate, he's too inexperienced. Pick Steve Bruce or Sam Allardyce!"

Fuck's sake. I don't want Southgate but if that's the best alternative Redknapp's got...

 

[CoolOff]

It has to be Big Sam. I need this at a major tournament.

 

[Portugeezer]

New OT soon... with new title.

 

[30yearsofhurt]

He's only saying that 'cos the dodgy fucker wants it for himself... even if it is probably true.

I agree. Give it Gareth. He knows how to deal with the pressure of international football.

 

[dealer-]

"Don't pick Southgate, he's too inexperienced. Pick Steve Bruce or Sam Allardyce!"

Fuck's sake. I don't want Southgate but if that's the best alternative Redknapp's got...

Give it to Mark Sampson, 33 years old, already been successful with the women's team.

 

[Doc_Drop]

Unfortunately, to corral the personalities of the England squad you need someone of authority and experience, or a recent ex-player that actually did things. Of recent players you could have a Gerrard or Beckham but neither have shown aptitude for management or seem to have any desire.

 

[Daithi]

Some of the secret filming with English fans from C4 news last night

Utterly vile

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Unfortunately, to corral the personalities of the England squad you need someone of authority and experience, or a recent ex-player that actually did things. Of recent players you could have a Gerrard or Beckham but neither have shown aptitude for management or seem to have any desire.

Gerrard wants to go into coaching when he retires I think. Doesn't strike me as a future great in management though, but maybe he'll surprise me. I thought Hyypia would make a good manager, and he's turned out to be abysmal at it

Surprised Carragher never gave coaching a go, he used to revel in shouting at people for minor errors, then giving them the death stare when he himself fucks up

Last night was such a clusterfuck, I can't even begin to delve into what went wrong.

 

[Mindwipe]

Another spot on David Squires cartoon about England.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...squires-on-englands-euro-2016-exit-to-iceland

These have been some of the best bloody commentary on the tournament.

 

[Strax]

Fun factz: Only 650 people on Iceland didn't watch the game last night.

Source please, I haven't seen anything about this in Icelandic media so...

 

[Doc_Drop]

Like Giggs, I think the likes of Gerrard need to be understudies with experienced managers and really learn the craft. The traditional English manager is now clearly a dinosaur and we need European trained coaches in order to change to the evolving nature of football.

 

[tomtom94]

BBC poll: Hoddle (13%), Redknapp (11%), Allardyce (10%), Bilic (9%), Other (10%)

Jesus fecking christ

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Let's just tread water until Howe is ready.

 

[Doc_Drop]

Hoddle? Does no-one remember how that shitshow ended?

 

[Strax]

Kevin Keegan will be the next England manager

 

[El Topo]

The Steve McLaren video is hilarious.

 

[Doc_Drop]

Kevin Keegan will be the next England manager

Lol don't..I'm a Newcastle Fan and I still burn from the end of his reign and his reaction to extreme pressure

 

[azyless]

Some of the secret filming with English fans from C4 news last night

Utterly vile

Absolutely disgusting. I'm grateful they're out.

 

[Kill3r7]

Like I said earlier, Fergie makes too much sense but if the FA can't convince him then they should consider Bielsa. At least the football would be fun to watch. If it has to be an Englishmen then Big Sam will do. He has the ambition and balls to go out there and try to win a few games.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Bielsa has just taken over at Lazio I think

 

[Mascot]

Absolutely disgusting. I'm grateful they're out.

You know this is a tiny minority of idiots, yes?

 

[azyless]

You know this is a tiny minority of idiots, yes?

And I'd rather have that minority out of France.

 

[Kill3r7]

Bielsa has just taken over at Lazio I think

That's the rumor but no official word yet. Sampaoli would have been another good choice but he took over at Sevilla.

 

[Omega Kirby]

I admit, I have no clue about football. But why was there so much England talk in this thread again? ��

Cause we're shite

Anyways we need a german coach, El Topo you up for it?

 

[Honey Bunny]

Out of who is available as an English coach I'd go for Sherwood.

The best argument yet for not having an English coach.

 

[Addi]

Fun factz: Only 650 people on Iceland didn't watch the game last night.

The Norwegian commentators yesterday:
- We are getting news that 99% of Iceland is watching this game right now
- wow, what is the last percent doing?
- I don't know, but that sounds like a number only North Korea can rival
- please, we are talking about real numbers here

 

[PatjuhR]

I'd go for a foreign coach.

 

[FuturusX]

Southgate's name shouldn't be in the conversation. He's awful and I doubt I'll ever forgive him for taking my beloved Boro down. Give it to Sam, Bruce, Pards or somebody else who has paid their dues. At this point they couldn't be any worse than Woy. Definitely don't want another foreign manager.

Why not? Who cares where he's from. Surely at this point what matters are results.

I can understand the desire to have someone that has deep understanding of English football, I get that but in think the greater priority is a manager that can get the team to perform on the big stage. Perhaps a proven international manager is the way to go.

 

[D4Danger]

Let's use IBM's Watson AI

not even joking

 

[PatjuhR]

It's no suprise all the top teams in English football have a foreign headcoach. It says something. You have terrible coaches and should look from people outside of the country untill top coaches arive.

 

[MrS]

Why not? Who cares where he's from. Surely at this point what matters are results.

I can understand the desire to have someone that has deep understanding of English football, I get that but in think the greater priority is a manager that can get the team to perform on the big stage. Perhaps a proven international manager is the way to go.

Because I think we have a pool of good English managers who deserve the opportunity, either for England or for a top 4 club instead. Capello and Sven were proven International managers. Look how they performed.

It's no suprise all the top teams in English football have a foreign headcoach. It says something. You have terrible coaches and should look from people outside of the country untill top coaches arive.

How can the English managers prove themselves if they're not given an opportunity at a top 4 club - they are constantly ignored for these jobs. Reaching the FA Cup Final and keeping a shit team in the PL are both good achievements, as is getting promoted with Bournemouth and keeping them up on a shoestring.

 

[stay gold]

Foreign manager all the way for me. The list of English candidates is as uninspiring as can be and will remain that way until Premier League teams stop giving jobs to people with 30 year old views on the game.

 

[PatjuhR]

Because I think we have a pool of good English managers who deserve the opportunity, either for England or for a top 4 club instead.

How can the English managers prove themselves if they're not given an opportunity at a top 4 club - they are constantly ignored for these jobs. Reaching the FA Cup Final and keeping a shit team in the PL are both good achievements, as is getting promoted with Bournemouth and keeping them up on a shoestring.

I agree with that. But from my point of view you English always want succes from your national squad, so that's no place to introduce young inexperienced head coaches. We did that here in the Netherlands and it's never a succes.

So you are right, top clubs in the Premier League should give them a chance. Not the National team. But yea, foreign owners.

 

[Kill3r7]

Because I think we have a pool of good English managers who deserve the opportunity, either for England or for a top 4 club instead. Capello and Sven were proven International managers. Look how they performed.

How can the English managers prove themselves if they're not given an opportunity at a top 4 club - they are constantly ignored for these jobs. Reaching the FA Cup Final and keeping a shit team in the PL are both good achievements, as is getting promoted with Bournemouth and keeping them up on a shoestring.

You can't really believe this. The current crop of English managers is average at best. Not a single one of them can be considered a top 10 manager in the PL let alone the world. Also, if English managers want the top jobs in the EPL then they should manage and win in lower divisions or overseas. Rodgers for example was rewarded for his success at Swansea with the Liverpool. There is no way an inexperienced manager is going to get a crack at a Top 4 team as the stakes are too high.

Top EPL managers 2016-2017
Mourinho
Guardiola
Klopp
Wegner
Conte
Poch
Ranieri
Koeman
Bilic

 

[knavish]

You can't really believe this. The current crop of English managers is average at best. Not a single one of them can be considered a top 10 manager in the PL let alone the world. Also, if English managers want the top jobs in the EPL then they should manage and win in lower divisions or overseas. Rodgers for example was rewarded for his success at Swansea with the Liverpool. There is no way an inexperienced manager is going to get a crack at a Top 4 team as the stakes are too high.

Top EPL managers 2016-2017
Mourinho
Guardiola
Wegner
Conte
Poch
Ranieri
Koeman
Bilic

you forgot Klopp

 

[MrS]

You can't really believe this. The current crop of English managers is average at best. Not a single one of them can be considered a top 10 manager in the PL let alone the world. Also, if English managers want the top jobs in the EPL then they should manage and win in lower divisions or overseas. Rodgers for example was rewarded for his success at Swansea with the Liverpool. There is no way an inexperienced manager is going to get a crack at a Top 4 team as the stakes are too high.

Top EPL managers 2016-2017
Mourinho
Guardiola
Wegner
Conte
Poch
Ranieri
Koeman
Bilic

And you forgot Klopp.Edit: Beaten

These guys are stifling English managers and most of them got their jobs by having success in weaker leagues than the PL.

Also, if English managers want the top jobs in the EPL then they should manage and win in lower divisions or overseas

Howe, Pardew, Allardyce, Bruce have all had success in lower divisions AND some success in the PL - they don't fit in to any definition of 'inexperienced manager'.