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[Buggy Loop]

According to GLAAD Gaming Report, the global leader in advocacy for LGBT+ representation

Now who would participate in such a survey I wonder.

 

[Muffdraul]

Not surprising considering how much the "+" has expanded in recent years.

Yep. I just remembered this one time back in high school when I accidentally looked at my friend's butt in the locker room and I'm pretty sure that puts me under + under today's preference structure.

 

[LordCBH]

I don’t buy it.

 

[Tsaki]

 

[Meicyn]

Much more useful data, IMO.

 

[CherryFalls]

Have these people ever considered identifying with a works themes, concepts, motifs, emotions? rather than base level stuff like looks/what sex a character sleeps with? Understanding symbolism, metaphor, allegory, allusion?

Or do they just think ''the character needs to be gay/black/female like me or i don't get it''

 

[RagnarokIV]

Cmon guys the author
“has an interest in streaming, people and communities, and giving a voice to marginalised people.”

 

[Skelterz]

I’m just joking if It offend anyone I will remove it.

It’s sad that we have to tail end jokes with if I I’ve offended anyone etc etc it’s such a pity the golden days of true liberty are gone.

 

[mortal]

Yea, I'm calling bullshit on that one.

 

[OverHeat]

It’s sad that we have to tail end jokes with if I I’ve offended anyone etc etc it’s such a pity the golden days of true liberty are gone.

Yeah…but since I’m not making the rule here better safe then sorry lol

 

[The Cockatrice]

 

[SkylineRKR]

The report includes plenty of statistics on the importance of representation. 72 percent of LGBT+ players say seeing characters matching their gender identity or sexual orientation well-represented makes them feel better about themselves, while 68 percent wish there were more prominent LGBT+ storylines.


Further, 66 percent of LGBT+ players say games allow them to express themselves in a way they can't in reality; 36 percent of LGBT+ players said gaming helped them discover their sexuality; and 11 percent of LGBT+ players use games to escape difficult situations in the real world.


51 percent of LGBT+ players wish games did more to help them express their identity. This certainly ties into character creators and the need for diverse representation.

Approx 60% is self hating. Thats a rather low number.

 

[Mister Wolf]

I'm bi and I like that inclusion is more a thing than before. But A LOOOT if it is corporate virtue signaling cringe, which can feel incredibly tone deaf

I'm more than my preferences, I don't need to make it part of my personality. Fuck off

An example of this is you'll never see Sony or anyone else make a game with a homosexual male main character, but will readily do it with females. Because they know heterosexual male customers are far less put off by females engaging in homosexuality than they are males.

 

[tkscz]

Well the survey size for this must be huge and must be from all over the world to get a result like that. I mean, gaming is one of, if not the biggest entertainment medium right now. So the numbers here would have to be great. So what was it, 100,000 people? 1,000,000 people?

GLAAD's report was conducted with Nielson, based on 1452 self-reported PC/console gamers based in the US.

NeoGAF has a much larger group of people than that and I bet the numbers would come out quite a bit different if we did this. So yeah, calling bull on this. Most likely all 1,452 people are from the west coast, specifically LA, Seattle and Portland.

 

[Deerock71]

I trust a study from GLAAD about LGBBQ as much as I trust the tobacco industry's findings on lung cancer.

 

[OCL]

[Eurogamer] Nearly 1 in 5 gamers are LGBT+, says new GLAAD study

Good, now give me: Mario: Confirm Princess Daisy as a lesbian/bisexual Splatoon: Flat out just state Pearl and Marina are married, make the fans of those games happy Pokémon: confirm Erika, Bugsy, Whitney, Kris, Jasmine, Maxie, Archie, Steven, Wallace, Maylene, Candice, Hilbert, N, Elesa...

www.resetera.com

Why are they like that

 

[hinch7]

Well the survey size for this must be huge and must be from all over the world to get a result like that. I mean, gaming is one of, if not the biggest entertainment medium right now. So the numbers here would have to be great. So what was it, 100,000 people? 1,000,000 people?

NeoGAF has a much larger group of people than that and I bet the numbers would come out quite a bit different if we did this. So yeah, calling bull on this. Most likely all 1,452 people are from the west coast, specifically LA, Seattle and Portland.

Tiny sample size and in an area with high LGBTQ, in a country with probably the highest. No bias there, nope lol.

 

[Euler007]

Siri, what is selection bias?

 

[DeepEnigma]

...this research was done by filtering with the LGBT+ tag on each store

Research.
Research.
RESEARCH.

Fuck off. This was done by a bored child looking to manufacture a headline.

Hell, I chuckled when I was looking up closing times for Advanced Auto Parts this past Sunday and it is said on Google Maps, "LGBT+ Friendly"

Oh thank the heavens! All that lube they stock!

 

[bender]

Im gay but... I really REALLY don't care for romance of any kind in games.

It's why I haven't given BG3 a go. The "Bioware style" of romance is so droll.

 

[Valt7786]

I’m just joking if It offend anyone I will remove it.

If anyone gets offended, they're the ones who need to be removed.

 

[Buggy Loop]

I trust a study from GLAAD about LGBBQ as much as I trust the tobacco industry's findings on lung cancer.

According to Obama family, 4 out of 4 thought Barack was the best president of the U.S.A.

Wow such high historical approval

 

[Sweden85]

I’m just joking if It offend anyone I will remove it.

Offend everyone.. thats the point of life

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Self reported surveys are always sketchy.

It’s like saying every alumni member from my grad school makes $180,000.

But that assumes every graduate from my year submitted a number. I don’t think too many unemployed people or masters program grads making $50,000 are going to respond either.

LGBT group is a vocal one and will tell the world anything about their sexuality and gender. No different than people skewing left on the politics scale. The US is roughly 50/50 red and blue yet probably 90% of social media involving self proclaimed political messages lean left.

If a CSR department says they got 80 complaints about orange scented floor cleaner and 20 positive feedback notes it doesn’t mean 80% of people hate it. It just means that portion of people who responded have 80% hate rate of out 100 people. The other 999,900 who use the company’s floor cleaners haven’t even responded.

 

[Nankatsu]

Extremely interesting study.

Said no one ever.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Much more useful data, IMO.

When you groom in schools.

 

[Meicyn]

An example of this is you'll never see Sony or anyone else make a game with a homosexual male main character but will readily do it with females, because they know heterosexual male customers are far less put off by females engaging in homosexuality than they are males.

Yup. Am homo, can confirm, still waiting for a lead protogahomo that isn’t a lesbian or bisexual that does onscreen shenanigans with the ladies.

I know it’s never going to happen and I understand why, it’s nothing personal. Games are expensive to make and starring a dude that bones dudes is likely going to financially flop. It’s just the honest truth. Gay dudes aren’t even 5% of the population. See: the movie ”Bros”. The mainstream audience was not interested, and it had nothing to do with homophobia. Hell, I didn’t see it either.

 

[Skelterz]

Yeah…but since I’m not making the rule here better safe then sorry lol

Yeah i know it’s just a pity isn’t it haha tbf this site is pretty chill nobody’s going out of there way to fuck anyone off but at the same time you can have a laugh and there’s no hard feelings.

 

[Interfectum]

LGBT group looks for reasons to exist. Shocking.

 

[MasterDerico]

So the "banana eats your mouth", because there is an inversion of values.

 

[H-I-M]

A whole bunch of Sony tops and loose Xbottoms.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Yup. Am homo, can confirm, still waiting for a lead protogahomo that isn’t a lesbian or bisexual that does onscreen shenanigans with the ladies.

I know it’s never going to happen and I understand why, it’s nothing personal. Games are expensive to make and starring a dude that bones dudes is likely going to financially flop. It’s just the honest truth. Gay dudes aren’t even 5% of the population. See: the movie ”Bros”. The mainstream audience was not interested, and it had nothing to do with homophobia. Hell, I didn’t see it either.

Yup.

Same reason why the vast majority of character leads have brown hair. Ya you might get some blondes or the occasional red head. But usually a dark brown haired guy or gal. And I guess every game character has great vision too because almost none wear glasses.

Got to go with the majority. And less glasses the less geeky it is despite tons of people wearing prescription lenses.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yup.

Same reason why the vast majority of character leads have brown hair. Ya you might get some blondes or the occasional red head. But usually a dark brown haired guy or gal. And I guess every game character has great vision too because almost none wear glasses.

Got to go with the majority. And less glasses the less geeky it is despite tons of people wearing prescription lenses.

It's cause they're wearing contacts or had Lasik,

 

[Bernardougf]

Yeah and 50% of gamers are women..

Yep.. my boy and his friends (a group of 7) ALL play some kind of game be mobile/console whatever... my daughter and her friends (a group of 10) couldn't give more of a shit for video games even if they tried.

And thats why, for me, is still baffling this insurgence of female leads we got in the last 10 years in video games, is like 3 in 5 game nowdays have female leads, and since the trend is making women look like man, not even that we can get, we get fat strong jaw bitch Alloy instead.

 

[Whitecrow]

"yet LGBT+ storylines and characters account for less than two percent of all games"

And that's bad because....?
How many sane, functional, LGTB+ people are actively complaining about this?

 

[kikonawa]

Dot

 

[Dane]

Isn't the world population naturally 7-10% LGBT?

I'm VERY skepitcal by Gen Z claims because they made LGBT as a clique thing.

 

[Hawkeye2890]

And clearly they believe about 50% are females of color, as most games these days seem to be targeted to that demo.

 

[DeepEnigma]

"yet LGBT+ storylines and characters account for less than two percent of all games"

And that's bad because....?
How many sane, functional, LGTB+ people are actively complaining about this?

 

[MarkMe2525]

This means every fifth person commenting is gay. I'll list the first 5, so everyone can be aware. ChorizoPicozo John Bilbo C crackajack Hollowpoint5557 Fake

Edit: by my scientific calculation, GrayChild is a gay too

Edit edit: shit shit shit, this comment at #90 made me a gay too. This is bullshit, the post counter skipped #89, it has it out for me.

 

[Luminoth-4545]

if true then that is over representation since the Alphabet people are only 3% of the population.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

OK, so what do we do with that data that is relevant to actual gaming?

 

[Valt7786]

Ed Nightingale article.
Can safely just ignore anything he harps on about in there.

 

[MarkMe2525]

They ran the poll on grinder

 

[Skifi28]

Much more useful data, IMO.

How do they spread their genes and multiply this fast if they're not having babies?

 

[nial]

It wouldn't surprise me, either way. They all play Guilty Gear Strive and Persona 3 Reload, BTW.

 

[DeepEnigma]

How do they spread their genes and multiply this fast if they're not having babies?

They "identify" as, doesn't mean they actually are.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

I bet 4 out of every 5 people they asked they pre-screened for excess-in-positive levels of homosexuality.

Also, 93% of my Uncle at Nintendo is made up on the spot.

7% of my uncle is made up prior, in several different locations.

The color of odor is translucent to the point of being mirror sheen but Budweiser is still losing money in light of purple mass ejecta found in YOUR OCEANS

This is a stupid study. Haha.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Isn't the world population naturally 7-10% LGBT?

I'm VERY skepitcal by Gen Z claims because they made LGBT as a clique thing.

Who knows.

I always heard that’s it’s 10%. Have no idea how true that is or if it was just a nice rounded off number used for decades.

 

[ComputerBlue]

Yeah I fucking doubt that is even close to the true statistic.