TiredGamer
Member
Never, ever, ever steer trade to Europe -- the majority of the world's trade ships are there, with the best tech (higher trade % per ship). You should own provinces at trade nodes prior to Europe and collect from there.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Europa Universalis IV |OT| A Game of Blobs
- Thread starter Toma
- Start date
Never, ever, ever steer trade to Europe -- the majority of the world's trade ships are there, with the best tech (higher trade % per ship). You should own provinces at trade nodes prior to Europe and collect from there.
Sure you should, in one of my games I am the only one collecting in both Antwerp and Venice :+.
Unless you move your capital to the New World, then I think you are wrong. The malus for collecting in a non-capital node is just too big to be a viable option.
So this was fun. Me, Bohemia and my vassals (Provence, Croatia, Bosnia) versus the rest. ThoseDeafMutes is playing Bavaria, so thankfully no danger from that. I actually eventually managed to white peace out of this though by fighting incredibly defensively in the Pyrenees. I'm really happy I have so many military ideas + good national ideas giving me 145% discipline (150% with advisor), would have had to give up a ton otherwise.
Current situation is this. Still need to sell a few of those French provinces to Provence, but the latest war just ended, so I haven't gotten around to that yet. Next up is probably a war with Naples (and with that, Castile, which fields the largest army of any nation)
TiredGamer
Member
Oh sure if you own the entire coastline of Europe, what are you even doing worrying about trade.
TiredGamer
Member
Unless you conquer everybody in your home node and destroy every other naval power, you will be sharing a significant amount of your overseas income with your rivals. You are going to see that money (your money!) plowed into ships and troops to hurt you. The amount you lose by stopping and collecting trade before Europe is balanced against the money you stop your rivals from making from your trade.
archnemesis
Member
I like those changes to the trade system. Hopefully it will increase my revenue in our multiplayer game.
Basileus777
Member
It probably won't be as big as 1.2. But yeah, the game still needs plenty of work, though much of that is on the design end that I'm not sure they are going to change at this point.
I was literally about to start a new game...
So we will again beta test it in our multiplayer session. Fun times arriving.
Maybe random colors now for every OOS message :-o
D
Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Basileus777
Member
It's strange to hear people love this song when I used to delete it from the file directory in EU2 because it was so annoying.
D
Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
I'd hate it if it came back, but now it's gone I miss it. Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Im playing Sweden in 30-year war and after several restarts I need some advice.
Finding it impossible to gain any lands in Denmark or anywhere else in Europe because of f****g webs of alliances that destroy any attempts at aggression.
Will AI's always defend eachother? Denmark just allies with England, Russia, France or all three. Any way to break AI alliances or force countries to wardec you?
In a straight fight my 6+6 king would stomp Denmarks army.
Finding it impossible to gain any lands in Denmark or anywhere else in Europe because of f****g webs of alliances that destroy any attempts at aggression.
Will AI's always defend eachother? Denmark just allies with England, Russia, France or all three. Any way to break AI alliances or force countries to wardec you?
In a straight fight my 6+6 king would stomp Denmarks army.
You can always get a strong ally of your own to cancel out Denmarks ally.
Always befriend a major power first, either near your war target or near one of your flanks, so that they can slow down the eventual AI alliance/coalition blob while you blitz your target (grab all of their land asap to force 100% warscore).
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
The soundtrack was great, but given the hours I'm pouring into EU4, I've inevitably gotten bored of it.
Does anyone have any recommendations for music that fits well with the game?
Does anyone have any recommendations for music that fits well with the game?
I usually listen to audio podcasts while playing. Dan Carlin's Hardcore History and Europa Universalis make a great combo!
archnemesis
Member
Woo!
Woo!²
Seriously, am I missing something or is this pretty awful?
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...s-again-p.&p=16376773&viewfull=1#post16376773
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...s-again-p.&p=16376773&viewfull=1#post16376773
Basileus777
Member
It's pretty clearly a joke. Other than the Monkey King maybe.
If it was just one joke DLC, I could see them actually releasing it, but all of those bottom three? I doubt they'll actually sell them.
Edit: Oh, you mean that specific post. Yeah, that's messed up.
Basileus777
Member
Paradox is teasing a EU4 annoucement on twitter. I'm guessing we are learning what the first expansion/major DLC pack is.
Horze armor pleazzz.
Basileus777
Member
That is a cool idea for SP especially. Not sure how much sense it makes in an MP environment where I try to calculate risks vs odds and where players can just play the savegame in between each session to uncover the whole map in SP before others see it in MP. Sounds like an extra hassle to me in an MP environment at least.
Or has anyone another impression?
Really looking forward to it as SP content though. Not sure where we are going to discuss it, so crossposting.
Randomised new world layout sounds decent enough, but I'm far more interested in the changes to natives and colonisation. Engaging in either involves a large amount of tedium at the moment which I'd love to see turned into fun and interesting gameplay. Ideally I want them to replace the tedium of spamming colonists everywhere with some form high-level colonial management from the player, and insert things like interesting pirate mechanics.
"The changes to exploration will be explored in a live stream on November 7, featuring Europa Universalis IV Project Lead Thomas Johansson. To see Conquest of Paradise firsthand, join the stream at 8 p.m. CET / 11 a.m. PST on Paradox Interactives Twitch.tv channel at www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive."
Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise will release on all major digital-download portals on December 11th, 2013.
Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise will release on all major digital-download portals on December 11th, 2013.
TiredGamer
Member
Some more insights:
- The minimap now only shows the lands you've discovered
- The randomization itself is optional and is (at the moment) compatible with Ironman.
- Randomization works in multiplayer
- Only the Americas are randomized (at the moment)
- There's going to be new American provinces
- PDS is shooting for $15 / 15 price point (ex. was the CK2 "Old Gods" DLC)
- Modders may be able to randomize the entire world map
- The minimap now only shows the lands you've discovered
- The randomization itself is optional and is (at the moment) compatible with Ironman.
- Randomization works in multiplayer
- Only the Americas are randomized (at the moment)
- There's going to be new American provinces
- PDS is shooting for $15 / 15 price point (ex. was the CK2 "Old Gods" DLC)
- Modders may be able to randomize the entire world map
jakefromstatefarm
Member
Hey EUIV-GAF, thinking about diving into Paradox games after 10 years of playing civ. Even though this just came out, is there any chance it goes on sale during Steam's Thanksgiving event?
Basileus777
Member
There's probably a good chance it goes on sale then. Paradox is usually pretty quick to put their games on sale.
Maybe even before then, I could see them putting EU4 on sale when Conquest of Paradise comes out.
Tbh, not really, for two reasons.
A. I like following your current game
B. If we start a new one, I would like to not be forced into picking from a small pool of existing great powers just because otherwise I won't get to interact with other players meaningfully since games end prematurely.
Oh, and I would only be interested in joining a new game after that one ends if sessions were planned at better hours, and sessions were preferably longer (fewer times a week in exchange for this would be fine).
I dont think we should force anybody to pick anyone in particular, but yeah, the games will probably continue to "end prematurely", and for me that is not really a problem. If it is for you though, I can see why you wouldnt want to join again. About the times, I think we should let the majority of the players actually joining a new game decide when we play.
They'll be showing the expansion in 25 minutes on stream (currently streaming world of vikings): http://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive