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Eurovision 2021

Great Hair

Banned


Based on this recap:
bad: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 15, 18, 19, 22, 23, 25
nice beat: 1, 5, 6, 10, 20, 21
favorite: 16, 17, 24
hot salsa: 14, 25

Overall pretty shitty "bands".
 
UK will be doomed to zero points until someone takes the BBC out of the equasion for song selection. Duffers for the last decade. Don't get me wrong, we will never win, but something half decent should bag us at least a pity point.
Nah we'll forever be punished for the North and Middle England voting the rest of the UK out of Europe... that and we constantly throw shit songs at them
 

Airola

Member
LOLMAO!!! United Kingdom... EVERYONE HATES THEM; LOL!!! :messenger_tears_of_joy:

On Men Behaving Badly in the 90's they laughed at Finland always getting zero points in Eurovision.
Karma appeared late, but better late than never :D
 
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Technically the Mediterranean won, if you figure in the Cyprus and Greece singers. I did laugh at the Estonia entry (I think) looked like it took place on Mustafa. I kept expecting Obi wan to shout out "I have the higher ground!".
 

Diddy X

Member
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Ionian

Member

That dude flat- out doing a line of coke on TV?

I only caught the livestream at the voting part and thoroughly enjoyed it, was really well done and I havn't watch the Eurovision in years.

Someone in the know, how does the public vote work with some getting zero and other hundreds, I don''t remember that at all? Phone ins that are then distributed by country? No idea how it works. Was the best part of the voting as well.
 

RoadHazard

Gold Member
Oh ye of little taste...

Italy's song was incredibly boring and monotonous. It was literally a one chord song (with a few small exceptions), and it barely even had a song melody. Both the "rock" songs were shit, although Finland's even more so. That was such typical Eurovision "metal" that isn't actually metal at all. Man, if the people who liked this got to hear some GOOD rock/metal their minds would be blown. But maybe it would be too complex for their musically simple minds. If it takes ANY effort they just zone out.

At least the winning song wasn't just a joke like most of them were, I suppose. This isn't a music competition, it's a "let's be silly and stupid" competition.

Anyway, France clearly should have won. That was an actual song. A very french song, but it was neat.
 

RoadHazard

Gold Member
That dude flat- out doing a line of coke on TV?

I only caught the livestream at the voting part and thoroughly enjoyed it, was really well done and I havn't watch the Eurovision in years.

Someone in the know, how does the public vote work with some getting zero and other hundreds, I don''t remember that at all? Phone ins that are then distributed by country? No idea how it works. Was the best part of the voting as well.

The public in each participating country (39 of them) gives each song 1-8, 10 or 12 points, just like the jury votes. The song that gets the most televotes in a certain country gets 12 points, etc. Only 10 songs can get any points at all from each country, the rest will get 0. If a certain song doesn't reach the top 10 in any country it will get 0 points total, as happened with a few of them. The max amount of public points a song could theoretically get this year would be 12*39 = 468.

So it works the same way as the jury points, it's just presented differently.
 
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Ionian

Member

That dude flat- out doing a line of coke on TV?

I only caught the livestream at the voting part and thoroughly enjoyed it, was really well done and I havn't watch the Eurovision in years.

Someone in the know, how does the public vote work with some getting zero and other hundreds, I don''t remember that at all? Phone ins that are then distributed by country? No idea how it works. Was the best part of the voting as well.
The public in each participating country (39 of them) gives each song 1-8, 10 or 12 points, just like the jury votes. The song that got the most televotes in a certain country gets 12 points, etc. Only 10 songs can get any points at all from a certain country, the rest will get 0. If all countries do that for the same song it will get 0 points total. The max amount of public points a song could theoretically get this year was 12*39 = 468.

So it works the same way as the jury points, it's just presented differently.

Cheers! Makes more sense to me now. :)
 

SkylineRKR

Member
He isn't Curacao. He's Suriname. And its been independent since 1975. It was a bad song. First of all, it didn't catch on when it was premiered. I immediately hated it. Secondly, it sounds like Broccoli and was being made fun of right off the bat. Thirdly, it pandered to the BLM crowd. Might've flown last year but apparently not anymore. This Song Contest is usually bad, with lots of B-quality music and ridiculous acts. Its about spectacle, catchiness and connection with the viewer. The event is worshipped especially by the LGBT crowd. But I think the quality of the music did somewhat increase over the years, for me it sort of went from terrible to eh. Last time I actually liked Arcade, and now I was impressed by Voila. But thats about it for me tbh.
 

Kenpachii

Member
He isn't Curacao. He's Suriname. And its been independent since 1975. It was a bad song. First of all, it didn't catch on when it was premiered. I immediately hated it. Secondly, it sounds like Broccoli and was being made fun of right off the bat. Thirdly, it pandered to the BLM crowd. Might've flown last year but apparently not anymore. This Song Contest is usually bad, with lots of B-quality music and ridiculous acts. Its about spectacle, catchiness and connection with the viewer. The event is worshipped especially by the LGBT crowd. But I think the quality of the music did somewhat increase over the years, for me it sort of went from terrible to eh. Last time I actually liked Arcade, and now I was impressed by Voila. But thats about it for me tbh.

Oh, mixed that up. Anyway would still consider them dutch even when they are independent.
 
First time I watched eurovision. Feels like I wasted alot of time watching the two first parts. Incase anyone is wondering if the contestants sing more than one song, no they don't.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
UK will be doomed to zero points until someone takes the BBC out of the equasion for song selection. Duffers for the last decade. Don't get me wrong, we will never win, but something half decent should bag us at least a pity point.

Who gives a fuck about Eurovision in the UK anyway? Its always been a joke, and one permanently enshrined by the year Terry Wogan (for non Brits, think Johnny Carson level) blatantly was shit-face drunk while presenting the show and laughing at the entire proceedings!
 

adamosmaki

Member
Oh ye of little taste...

Italy's song was incredibly boring and monotonous. It was literally a one chord song (with a few small exceptions), and it barely even had a song melody. Both the "rock" songs were shit, although Finland's even more so. That was such typical Eurovision "metal" that isn't actually metal at all. Man, if the people who liked this got to hear some GOOD rock/metal their minds would be blown. But maybe it would be too complex for their musically simple minds. If it takes ANY effort they just zone out.

At least the winning song wasn't just a joke like most of them were, I suppose. This isn't a music competition, it's a "let's be silly and stupid" competition.

Anyway, France clearly should have won. That was an actual song. A very french song, but it was neat.
well what did you expect ? Its eurovision and its been mostly shite since the late 90s (i guess it does represent the state of the whole music industry )
As you said at least the winning song is not shite and its bearable to listen
 

Sybrix

Member
Do people take this seriously?

Ive always been under the impression that it’s treated as a joke type thing, bit of a laugh but nothing serious
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
It’s like the hunger games .. but for the worst of the worst. 😂
 
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Ionian

Member
Do people take this seriously?

Ive always been under the impression that it’s treated as a joke type thing, bit of a laugh but nothing serious
You definitely have the fanatics but mostly people watch it as a bit of craic to laugh at.

Kinda ebbs ad flows over the decades, the 90's I think was a popular time I think. Most of the good presenters take the piss out of it which is great. When it starts taking itself too seriously people get bored and start skipping it. Last nights was a return to form though and was the first time I'd bothered watching in decades.

I'm sure with all the shit like X-Factor etc. on all year people lost interest.
 
I'm just happy the Dutch entry lost badly with their awful BLM, anti-slavery message about rising up and rebelling. Those people live in one of the richest, safest and free countries in the world. Not just that, they even got the opportunity to espouse their message on a world stage and represent our country. Get outta here with your talk about rebellion.
 

Jag

Member
I'm just happy the Dutch entry lost badly with their awful BLM, anti-slavery message about rising up and rebelling. Those people live in one of the richest, safest and free countries in the world. Not just that, they even got the opportunity to espouse their message on a world stage and represent our country. Get outta here with your talk about rebellion.
Not to mention the wealth they earned from Dutch East India Corp and their history of raping indigenous cultures :D
 
You definitely have the fanatics but mostly people watch it as a bit of craic to laugh at.

Kinda ebbs ad flows over the decades, the 90's I think was a popular time I think. Most of the good presenters take the piss out of it which is great. When it starts taking itself too seriously people get bored and start skipping it. Last nights was a return to form though and was the first time I'd bothered watching in decades.

I'm sure with all the shit like X-Factor etc. on all year people lost interest.

Do other European countries laugh at it though? Does the German tv have a German present mocking and laughing at it like our graham Norton does?
 

nemiroff

Gold Member
Fun fact, he started his career by writing party songs for the Norwegian equivalent of graduation shenanigans containing lyrics like "tonight it's okay to be a whore".

And now he's a big boy getting praise for being brave and daring to be a man singing about mental health yadda yadda. Like that's not what every man with a guitar has done since the guitar was invented, lol.

Even though I'm from Norway I absolutely hated that guy and his music.. But a couple of days ago I randomly started watching a couple of "documentaries" that completely changed my mind about him. I now understand that he's a great human being and a massive talent. He was seriously bullied for the most part of his life, and has had the whole media machine against him for years. This cool thing is that this is just the beginning of his music career even though measured in time it has been quite a while already..
 
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Alx

Member
Do other European countries laugh at it though? Does the German tv have a German present mocking and laughing at it like our graham Norton does?

In France they don't really laugh at it, but don't take it too seriously either. It's a traditional event for family gatherings, most people watch it knowing it's all over the place and that it's not important stuff in the end, but deep inside they'd be happy for their country to win. Like people who don't care for football but still watch the World Cup. Or families that cheer for their kid in the annual middle school show.
It’s funny because the french always come last with zero points usually or close enough. Everyone hates the Fench for some reason.

There's no major trend for or against France, their results are all over the place depending on the quality of the artist. We haven't won in 40+ years, but have been in the fitst halfth about as many time as the second. Like all countries in Eurovision we almost always get points from neighbouring countries, especially French speaking ones (Belgium, Switzerland, and Luxemburg when they still participated)
 
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CAB_Life

Member
With so many great performances I have no idea how Italy won. If their lead had killer vocals, I could maybe understand, since it's you know, a singing/ song contest. France was leagues better and a flawless tribute to its nation, which is the spirit of the contest: to represent your country in a relevant, yet timeless way. That matahari song was amazing, too, and Iceland with their retro sweater schtick was equally on-point.
 

GeorgPrime

Banned
I dont know what to think about the eurovision and how bad our entry was. As a german.... who ever came up with the idea for the german entry should get raped by narwals in the ocean.

Nahh i dont feel hate, i just feel sorry.

Seriously.... they thought they would write a song about diversity and other stuff that is going wrong in germany for years now? that is a huge world wide social problem due to woke culture right now? And then they thought people would actually love that song?

They still think that all culture are thinking the same or are the same people right? I know a lot of countries who thought "What is this shit?" related to the german song xD
 
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Kimahri

Banned
Even though I'm from Norway I absolutely hated that guy and his music.. But a couple of days ago I randomly started watching a couple of "documentaries" that completely changed my mind about him. I now understand that he's a great human being and a massive talent. He was seriously bullied for the most part of his life, and has had the whole media machine against him for years. This cool thing is that this is just the beginning of his music career even though measured in time it has been quite a while already..
He had the whole media machine against him because he built a career writing crappy songs that were absurdly degrading towards women. That's what he did, he got famous, he got money, and now he's pretending like he did a 1080 and is some great guy who's gonna save the world and shit.

It's hilariously fake while he's still making money off of his "bad girls get gifts, but maybe should be punished" songs that are still on Spotify, and still popular among kids that sing this shit and routinely call girls names inspired by this crap.

He's a mediocre musician who struck gold by finding a market ripe for exploitation, and he went for it. Good for him, but let's not pretend he's some great musical talent.

That he was bullied is irrelevant. Mayne people experience hardships, that doesn't make whatever they do good or worthwhile. He got what he's worth. A low ranking.
 

Alx

Member
Seriously.... they thought they would write a song about diversity and other stuff that is going wrong in germany for years now? that is a huge world wide social problem due to woke culture right now? And then they thought people would actually love that song?

They still think that all culture are thinking the same or are the same people right? I know a lot of countries who thought "What is this shit?" related to the german song xD
I don't think anybody cared about the message in the song, or any lyrics in particular. I guess most people who watched the German performance will only remember it as "the one with the woman dressed with a 'peace' costume that was actually flipping the bird half of the time". That's the root of the "Ja ja ding dong" joke.
 

Ionian

Member
I don't think anybody cared about the message in the song, or any lyrics in particular. I guess most people who watched the German performance will only remember it as "the one with the woman dressed with a 'peace' costume that was actually flipping the bird half of the time". That's the root of the "Ja ja ding dong" joke.

Oh that was the German entry? That was hilariously bad. Just bizarre shit. Definitely meme potential there.
 

Dr.Morris79

Gold Member
First time I watched eurovision. Feels like I wasted alot of time watching the two first parts. Incase anyone is wondering if the contestants sing more than one song, no they don't.
Exactly, I was expecting a full album, from each contestant followed by an ensemble of Rap.
 

nemiroff

Gold Member
He had the whole media machine against him because he built a career writing crappy songs that were absurdly degrading towards women. That's what he did, he got famous, he got money, and now he's pretending like he did a 1080 and is some great guy who's gonna save the world and shit.

It's hilariously fake while he's still making money off of his "bad girls get gifts, but maybe should be punished" songs that are still on Spotify, and still popular among kids that sing this shit and routinely call girls names inspired by this crap.

He's a mediocre musician who struck gold by finding a market ripe for exploitation, and he went for it. Good for him, but let's not pretend he's some great musical talent.

That he was bullied is irrelevant. Mayne people experience hardships, that doesn't make whatever they do good or worthwhile. He got what he's worth. A low ranking.

You should be more dismissive when discussing, because with my microscope I see some tiny holes you didn't close.
 

GeorgPrime

Banned
Oh that was the German entry? That was hilariously bad. Just bizarre shit. Definitely meme potential there.

Yes it was. The fun fact: i never even heard once about this guy who was sent there by germany xD

They really have to ask "Stefan Raab" again to find someone for the Eurovision. Lenas "Satellite" was perfect
 
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