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[Bitmap Frogs]

Senjutsu lost it. It's time for acceptance...let it go..lol

I had Dreamcast under the tv when Sega bailed.

Granted I also had a N64 and was planning to buy a GameCube, but Sega was my jam.

 

[IDKFA]

You don't need to see an iceberg if your room at lower decks is taking water, but whatever floats your boat.

People like Tom Warren are talking about Microsoft considering if some Xbox exclusives should be ported to PlayStation.

There isn't any talk or rumors or Microsoft going full third-party and games like Halo or Flight Sim being released on Playstation.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

As you stated, they will buy more publishers. Ubisoft would be a easy buy. Playstation will get all games. But Xbox players will get first dips. What does first dips mean? Beta test games, get multiplayer maps first, exclusive DLC, etc. Since they games will release in more platforms they will have bigger budgets as well. Sure “Fanboys” might get upset about this. But the mass market will just care they have access to COD, Elder Scrolls, Minecraft, Assassin’d Creed, etc 2 months ahead by “beta” preorder.

Microsoft will still push customers towards Xbox because that’s how they keep 100% of the profits to their games. There is a future where Microsoft makes more money out of Playstation than Sony themselves if they buy enough publishers.

Not going to draw enough people to xbox to keep it afloat.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

lol they are not gonna buy ANYTHING until they get out of this ROI mess first, and that can take years. Even smaller studios would likely be off the table at this point, let alone big publishers.

you know this is Microsoft right? Company that bought mixer and skype?

 

[demigod]

As you stated, they will buy more publishers. Ubisoft would be a easy buy. Playstation will get all games. But Xbox players will get first dips. What does first dips mean? Beta test games, get multiplayer maps first, exclusive DLC, etc. Since they games will release in more platforms they will have bigger budgets as well. Sure “Fanboys” might get upset about this. But the mass market will just care they have access to COD, Elder Scrolls, Minecraft, Assassin’d Creed, etc 2 months ahead by “beta” preorder.

Microsoft will still push customers towards Xbox because that’s how they keep 100% of the profits to their games. There is a future where Microsoft makes more money out of Playstation than Sony themselves if they buy enough publishers.

Looks like someone didn’t keep up with the ABK deal. 0 chance xbox buys ubisoft.

 

[N30RYU]

I don't believe it.

I'm calling BS. 100% BS rumour.

+1
I don't see it till I see it.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Not going to draw enough people to xbox to keep it afloat.

xbox is profitable, just stagnant.

 

[FunkMiller]

Until it's official then I can't believe. It doesn't make any sense for it to be real.

It's clearly been leaked to all the gaming press directly by someone at MS to gauge reaction (same way film studios do the same thing with Deadline and THR). It's happening. Best get used to it.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

People like Tom Warren are talking about Microsoft considering if some Xbox exclusives should be ported to PlayStation.

There isn't any talk or rumors or Microsoft going full third-party and games like Halo or Flight Sim being released on Playstation.

Pure semantics with hopium infusion. We know it's coming for weeks now (ever since Xbox CFO slip), Xbox people are quite content with this already.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Looks like someone didn’t keep up with the ABK deal. 0 chance xbox buys ubisoft.

U didn’t keep up with it either I guess. “blocked”. I threw a random publisher as my example, of Xbox just buying up publishers ala Embracer. Hell maybe even bail out Embracer Group from their own stupidity.

 

[demigod]

U didn’t keep up with it either I guess. “blocked”. I threw a random publisher as my example, of Xbox just buying up publishers ala Embracer. Hell maybe even bail out Embracer Group from their own stupidity.

They got away from all but 1 regulator for buying the latest publisher. You think they are going to step right back in the limelight? Delusional.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

They got away from all but 1 regulator for buying the latest publisher. You think they are going to step right back in the limelight? Delusional.

What did those regulators accomplish? Homies bought Bethesda and Activision back to back. I don’t think really think they give a fuck. Yes they will buy atleast one more publisher by the end of this console cycle.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

What did those regulators accomplish?

Complete breakdown of the initial traget of the ABK acquisition and the general shift in Xbox software strategy. CoD exclusivity (the sole reason of this deal) is locked behind a 10-year binding contract with Sony, streaming and subscription rights are offloaded to Ubisoft worldwide for 15 years.

The whole idea behind the deal was to make CoD exclusive ASAP in order to boost gamepass and hardware. After CMA hardline position, good luck with both.

 

[meatsauce]

Starfield should have been on there day 1. Game Pass was a mistake.
Sony was smart by not going the day 1 route. I enjoy PS Plus Premium A LOT more than Game Pass.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

xbox is profitable, just stagnant.

The consoles are performing terribly.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

xbox is profitable, just stagnant.

It ended the quarter with hundreds of millions of net loss even with ATVI money piled right up at the top.

 

[FunkMiller]

The fact that MS and XBox have said absolutely nothing about this to counter the rumour mill is very telling. Publicly traded companies do not let false rumours float around, for fear of what they might do to share price.

Seems to me that some sort of internal war has been going on at MS over whether to go third party or not, and the decision has been made to do just that, and people are leaking it.

 

[DavidGzz]

Sony gamers will help keep Game Pass cheap. Smart of MS.

 

[Heisenberg007]

The fact that MS and XBox have said absolutely nothing about this to counter the rumour mill is very telling. Publicly traded companies do not let false rumours float around, for fear of what they might do to share price.

Seems to me that some sort of internal war has been going on at MS over whether to go third party or not, and the decision has been made to do just that, and people are leaking it.

I'm pretty sure that Xbox themselves are leaking this information as part of their controlled leaks to prepare the grounds for them.

Why is all this information coming from Xbox fanboys? lol. Why is not coming from proper investigative journalists like Jason Schereir? The people who are leaking this information are Tom Warren, Jez Corden, Jeff Grubb, and Xbox Era lol. That tells me everything I want to know.

 

[Markio128]

I’m not interested in Starfield on PS5, but I would really appreciate a posh PSVR2 version of Skyrim or Fallout 4. Ta.

 

[Mr.ODST]

thinking about it last night I wonder if the only way Xbox can get GP on Playstation is by not being a console competitor in the space?

Either way it sucks for Xbox fans who are going to lose their digital library

 

[Unknown Soldier]

The fact that MS and XBox have said absolutely nothing about this to counter the rumour mill is very telling. Publicly traded companies do not let false rumours float around, for fear of what they might do to share price.

Seems to me that some sort of internal war has been going on at MS over whether to go third party or not, and the decision has been made to do just that, and people are leaking it.

Shareholders will celebrate MS getting out of money losing consoles

Nothing is being said because they simply aren't ready to say anything yet

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Complete breakdown of the initial traget of the ABK acquisition and the general shift in Xbox software strategy. CoD exclusivity (the sole reason of this deal) is locked behind a 10-year binding contract with Sony, streaming and subscription rights are offloaded to Ubisoft worldwide for 15 years.

The whole idea behind the deal was to make CoD exclusive ASAP in order to boost gamepass and hardware. After CMA hardline position, good luck with both.

Microsoft offered Playstation 3 years, then a 10 year contract before CMA got involved. The same one Nintendo got. The idea that Xbox won’t buy another publisher because of these terms is silly. The idea that Microsoft were going to make COD exclusive is absolutely madness. Even Jim Ryan said “It is not an exclusivity play at all,” in a private email to CEO Chris Deering.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Microsoft offered Playstation 3 years

U-huh, non-binding.

Jimbo went and bent Xbox over for 10-year binding contract. At this point the only think that ABK can make for MS is money on other platform. Any sort of exclusivity plans are on decade-long hold.

 

[FunkMiller]

I guess Starfield could end up being a Playstation exclusive after all.

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm pretty sure that Xbox themselves are leaking this information as part of their controlled leaks to prepare the grounds for them.

Why is all this information coming from Xbox fanboys? lol. Why is not coming from proper investigative journalists like Jason Schereir? The people who are leaking this information are Tom Warren, Jez Corden, Jeff Grubb, and Xbox Era lol. That tells me everything I want to know.

Oh, without a doubt. This is coming from right inside the MS mainframe.

 

[bitbydeath]

Microsoft offered Playstation 3 years, then a 10 year contract before CMA got involved. The same one Nintendo got. The idea that Xbox won’t buy another publisher because of these terms is silly. The idea that Microsoft were going to make COD exclusive is absolutely madness. Even Jim Ryan said “It is not an exclusivity play at all,” in a private email to CEO Chris Deering.

MS going third party is because of all the debt Xbox has accrued. Buying more devs isn’t on the cards right now.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

U-huh, non-binding.

Jimbo went and bent Xbox over for 10-year binding contract. At this point the only think that ABK can make for MS is money on other platform. Any sort of exclusivity plans are on decade-long hold.

Idk why youre randomly suggesting Microsoft would pull a fast one. When the deal Nintendo got months before was binding. The same one Playstation got offered.

Microsoft and Nintendo sign "binding 10-year agreement" for Call of Duty

Microsoft has announced it has finalised a 10-year agreement to launch Call of Duty on Nintendo platforms on "the same …

www.eurogamer.net

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Idk why youre randomly suggesting Microsoft would pull a fast one. When the deal Nintendo got months before was binding. The same one Playstation got offered.

Microsoft and Nintendo sign "binding 10-year agreement" for Call of Duty

Microsoft has announced it has finalised a 10-year agreement to launch Call of Duty on Nintendo platforms on "the same …

www.eurogamer.net

Where did we talk about Nintendo?

 

[Ar¢tos]

Jim Ryan is a bad man.

I heard he once kicked a puppy and slapped a toddler with a physical copy of Xbox Starfield at the same time.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Where did we talk about Nintendo?

Microsoft offered Playstation 3 years, then a 10 year contract before CMA got involved. The same one Nintendo got.

 

[FunkMiller]

Schreier's got the exclusive on Spencer being axed...

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I had a dream that xbox went third party last night

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Schreier's got the exclusive on Spencer being axed...

I think it's about his third book but who knows at this point.

 

[kruis]

People like Tom Warren are talking about Microsoft considering if some Xbox exclusives should be ported to PlayStation.

There isn't any talk or rumors or Microsoft going full third-party and games like Halo or Flight Sim being released on Playstation.

It's inevitable. When a bunch of Xbox games appearing on PlayStation this year, there's less and less reason to buy an Xbox console. With hardware sales slowing down even more than they already were, MS will have no choice but to bring everything they publish to every other platform.

This is a huge win for Sony and the end of Xbox as a viable games console hardware platform. Beginning of the end.

 

[Three]

It's clearly been leaked to all the gaming press directly by someone at MS to gauge reaction (same way film studios do the same thing with Deadline and THR). It's happening. Best get used to it.

Exactly, there is absolutely no way this isn't a controlled leak. Somebody at xboxera starting things off saying "tomorrow is going to be interesting" then a bunch of other known MS mouthpieces giving out this type of information. They've all been briefed. There likely isn't going to be anything 'official' for a little while longer as they hide in the bunker and let the dust settle.

 

[FunkMiller]

I had a dream that xbox went third party last night

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

I dreamed our lord and saviour Gaben From On High announced the new Steam Machine.

 

[IDKFA]

It's clearly been leaked to all the gaming press directly by someone at MS to gauge reaction (same way film studios do the same thing with Deadline and THR). It's happening. Best get used to it.

I could understand Starfield, but not Microsoft going full third-party. I can't see how it makes sense?

Pure semantics with hopium infusion. We know it's coming for weeks now (ever since Xbox CFO slip), Xbox people are quite content with this already.

What I was getting at is that I've seen no credible rumours of MS going full third-party.

It wouldn't matter to me if they did as I have a PS5 alongside my Xbox. The reason I'm struggling to believe this is because unlike SEGA, Microsoft have the financial clout to ride out this difficult period.

 

[Randall365]

That’s a janky, boring, Bethesda RPG’s music King!!!

 

[Ogbert]

On the plus side, when exactly the same game releases on PS5, it will get better reviews.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I think Phil is gone tbh, he was too soft in many ways.

MS will get some hardcore business man...maybe they've hired Big Jimmy to swing his big British cock into the ring!

 

[Mownoc]

On the plus side, when exactly the same game releases on PS5, it will get better reviews.

But it won't be the exact same game. I've heard they're adding cutting edge features like maps for cities.

 

[FunkMiller]

I could understand Starfield, but not Microsoft going full third-party. I can't see how it makes sense?

They've been losing money on Xbox's. It makes perfect sense.

 

[GHG]

On the plus side, when exactly the same game releases on PS5, it will get better reviews.

The people who are deeply into this "xbox tax" conspiracy are about to get a rude awakening.

 

[IDKFA]

They've been losing money on Xbox's. It makes perfect sense.

Now you mention it, I remember Microsoft confirming not so long ago that they've never made a profit on Xbox consoles.

Maybe it is happening? Shit.

 

[AV]

I could understand Starfield, but not Microsoft going full third-party. I can't see how it makes sense?

They banked on Starfield being a massive success for them that would bring in millions of Game Pass subs that would play it for a long time. Then none of that happened. This is the backup plan.

 

[Damigos]

I could understand Starfield, but not Microsoft going full third-party. I can't see how it makes sense?



What I was getting at is that I've seen no credible rumours of MS going full third-party.

It wouldn't matter to me if they did as I have a PS5 alongside my Xbox. The reason I'm struggling to believe this is because unlike SEGA, Microsoft have the financial clout to ride out this difficult period.

The question is how long can they ride it out ? From the 2013 reveal of xbone they are on damage control and the only good exclusive they released is forza horizon. Its a pity that so much time, money and talent is spent on corporate bullshit and not on actual game development.
No fable, no gears, no good new halo, redfall sucked, sea of thieves sucked etc etc..
Maybe going 3rd party really is better for MS, but then another problem arises. That of competitiveness. If Sony is left to play alone in the gaming scene we probably wont see hardware leaps and the games will become generic and cost $150, as there wont be a need to push.

Also, MS, wtf. They spent $80BN in 3 years to buy everything and they wont use the IPs as exclusives to promote their console?

 

[Dazraell]

On the plus side, when exactly the same game releases on PS5, it will get better reviews.

Actually, Xbox and PC version may have one perk over PS5

If Sony will follow with the same policy they have went with Skyrim and Fallout 4, Starfield's mods on PS5 won't allow any custom assets created by fans. So any substantial mods with new assets by modders will be a no go

 

[IDKFA]

The question is how long can they ride it out ? From the 2013 reveal of xbone they are on damage control and the only good exclusive they released is forza horizon. Its a pity that so much time, money and talent is spent on corporate bullshit and not on actual game development.
No fable, no gears, no good new halo, redfall sucked, sea of thieves sucked etc etc..
Maybe going 3rd party really is better for MS, but then another problem arises. That of competitiveness. If Sony is left to play alone in the gaming scene we probably wont see hardware leaps and the games will become generic and cost $150, as there wont be a need to push.

Also, MS, wtf. They spent $80BN in 3 years to buy everything and they wont use the IPs as exclusives to promote their console?

I don't think Sony would bump up game prices to £150. People would either just flock to Nintendo or PC.

What might happen is that somebody else comes in to fill the void. Maybe Valve will have another crack with some Steam Machine or Apple enters the market. Somebody will step in to fill the void and there will be competition for Sony.

 

[FunkMiller]

Maybe Valve will have another crack with some Steam Machine

He will come to save us, my children. REJOICE!