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Wild AF and I will pay 70$ for it (the MCC). What would be even more wild is if they brought over the original Gears trilogy remastered.

It sounds like literally everything is coming to PS5.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

 

[Pelta88]

I remember someone posting a Hellblade 2 pic saying Just get An Xbox........ (not gonna put you on blast)

Welp.

This.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

The only reason I'd consider it somewhat valid is because Tom Warren shared it as though it was was real.

Oh okay, well then never mind. This might have some traction to it after all.

Wow...that's all I have to say. Lol.

I mean, if it were a good game I would be excited for PS5 owners but it’s really not, it’s outdated in almost every way and average at very best.

If they made meaningful updated improvements it could get a second wind of life. Can't really count many games out these days; I thought Cyberpunk would be DOA forever but then the expansion happened and it's like the game basically had an entire relaunch. That and Edgerunners really gave it a new lease of life.

Starfield wasn't SO bad that it couldn't benefit from the same, the content just needs to be really good (and made by Bethesda).

I kinda agree. Tom is coping a little bit XboxEra discord and doesn't seem to be fully onboard with Jez saying "all games". However, Tom himself has teased multiple times, that he has heard way more games coming to PS5 than just Hi-fi and SoT. Nick just confirmed that he knew about Starfield port for a while, but didn't want to leak it prevent further melts.

However, if you remember the original discord leak (OEM one), the poster insinuated ports are in the work for existing BGS games, meaning Starfield.



There is a thread already on it.

Rumor - Xbox going OEM route for next-gen? 3rd party consoles in the making?

So, this has been circulating in a discord I'm a part of which necessarily hasn't been picked up by Xbox community. The person was on the money on Indiana Jones, and is further corroborating about Xbox multi-platform stuff but the most intriguing aspect was on the hardware bit where the poster...

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Yeah, I didn't know Tom retweeted it. He's in a similar space as Jez IMO; has inside tracks with some people directly at MS and kind of acts like a mouthpiece, so if he's reposting it, then it's likely true.

Again, all I can say ATM is "wow". When I thought about MS taking this strategy, I didn't think it'd be this soon. I thought they'd maybe start in 2025, then make a gradual transition by like 2027/2028. At this rate it looks like they want to get this transition over with by the end of the year .

I'm very interested to see what the messaging around this is going to be. And, well, I'm also interested in the OEM plans, because I think that'll determine the hardware future of the brand (tho IMO, I think that part of the rumor's only half of the plan on the hardware front. I still think MS are going to make their own NUC/laptop/tablet etc. gaming hardware, and a spec they'll license out alongside Xbox UI and Windows to OEM manufacturers).

 

[HeWhoWalks]

I hope everyone realizes this is about how Gamepass is completely unsustainable more than it is about Xbox's failure as a platform.

Like Xbox is a failure, no doubt. But it failed BECAUSE of Gamepass and what it takes to feed it, not simply because of a boring slate of exclusives.

It's actually more out of the Microsoft playbook. Xbox failed because of THEM. GamePass was merely another attempt at a fix. It's not the cause, but part of the result.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The more I think of it, the more Jez is probably right on this.

How does it make sense to allow CoD to be 100% multiplatform, and other developers are forced to remain exclusive? And yet these same studios would have to layoff employees if their games don't reach target numbers/performance. That's totally unfair to their other studios.

So in a way, did Microsoft acquiring Activision essentially make them fully commit to third party in some strange twist of fate?

 

[F0rneus]

 

[balls of snow]

This
Is
Madness

Once in a decade type of news.

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Makes sense at least they're adjusting to the reality of the market instead of putting their head in the sand by letting good IP die with a shrinking platform.

 

[cormack12]

Is this likely to be a release on xbox, timed exclusive then come to PlayStation deal?

 

[Badlucktroll]

I hope nintendo comes out with a powerful console (maybe after switch 2) that sells well and can run multiplatform games as well as great nintendo produced games. Maybe xbox going 3rd party will lead to a stronger more powerful nintendo

 

[salva]

 

[KyoZz]

I was so disappointed with this game, I put 35 hours into it and... left to play something else. I don't feel the urge to install it again.

BUT TO ALL PS5 AND SWITCH USERS YOU BETTER PLAY HI-FI RUSH THO!!

 

[H-I-M]

We've (except a certain delusional group) been knew that making Starfield an exclusive was the wrong move, as the game completely BOMBED, had ZERO longevity and did not boost GamePass sales like they had hoped.

 

[NeonGhost]

Finally 60fps on the ps5 pro

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

If the rumors threads get this chaotic I can't imagine how the announcements threads will be like, but I kinda hope to see a lot of bookmarked posts come back lol.

 

[cormack12]

 

[Horseganador]

Ryan will leave with his homework done, PS at its best and MS having to release its games on PS5.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

It's actually more out of the Microsoft playbook. Xbox failed because of THEM. GamePass was merely another attempt at a fix. It's not the cause, but part of the result.

Game Pass was the wrong fix at the wrong time, or at least in isolation. MS should've taken from Sony's PS3 playbook and ramped up 1P core-orientated gaming development & exclusives in the last 3-4 years of XBO gen, and ensured they had some big 1P games ready for Series launch.

Wouldn't have helped them surpass PS or anything, but would have kept the console competitive surely. Instead they turned to features & services, without any content to make use of it. That was a huge mistake.

 

[{insert code here}]

Nah, once the PS3's price dropped, released banger exclusives, and Sony got their act together, it was clear that the 360 was no longer running away with all of those people on its own. The Xbox One simply sealed the deal and reversed all momentum.

Yeah but that PS3 pricedrop + those bangers didn't happen until 2009/2010. That all happened same time as MS pulled the Kinect pivot and went after the Wii market. Everybody started switching to Sony at that point because Xbox was losing mindshare from people like us. And people like us always lead the broader market trends.

 

[Dane]

The more I think of it, the more Jez is probably right on this.

How does it make sense to allow CoD to be 100% multiplatform, and other developers are forced to remain exclusive? And yet these same studios would have to layoff employees if their games don't reach target numbers/performance. That's totally unfair to their other studios.

So in a way, did Microsoft acquiring Activision essentially make them fully commit to third party in some strange twist of fate?

Because they never intended to take it off Playstation, take out this brand hyperloyalty glasses for a second, ask developers back in the early 90s why they weren't loyal to Nintendo and wanted to develop for both SNES and Genesis?

Its money, and they know the customers will buy their hardware and give their 30% cut, for them, Xbox is like android, its in a second or third place, but giving money, its about affordability to own, not to need to own because you're out.

 

[3liteDragon]

Lmfao

 

[BoxFresh123]

 

[FrankWza]

The fact that Starfield didn't move the needle for Xbox even a little was a VERY ominous sign

That combined with not being able to take CoD away from PlayStation like they planned....

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Is this likely to be a release on xbox, timed exclusive then come to PlayStation deal?

Perhaps at first. That will quickly end when people start to realize that all they have to do is wait a little bit. This isn't a console-to-PC kind of thing either. Starfield coming to PlayStation is a massive game changer!

 

[balls of snow]

I wonder now if ms will support the ps5 pro later. Are we getting 60 fps Starfield on a Sony console. The possibilities.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Because they never intended to take it off Playstation, take out this brand hyperloyalty glasses for a second, ask developers back in the early 90s why they weren't loyal to Nintendo and wanted to develop for both SNES and Genesis?

Its money, and they know the customers will buy their hardware and give their 30% cut, for them, Xbox is like android, its in a second or third place, but giving money, its about affordability to own, not to need to own because you're out.

Yeah but they did intend to take Starfield off playstation

It's a completely incongruent strategy

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Makes sense, Starfield was far in development on PS5 before MS bought Bethesda AFAIK. Probably same with HiFi no doubt.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

 

[nick776]

Just imagine Gears of War with the Dualsense Adaptive Triggers---WOULD BE AMAZING. Better yet, imagine Gears 6 on Ps5 Pro WITH those same Dualsense features.

 

[iHaunter]

Goal post moved so far, it's in another console.

 

[Quixz]

X and Gaf will be interesting over the next few weeks!

 

[Kurotri]

For posterity.

 

[xHunter]

 

[BaneIsPain]

I played it a bit and I think MS should keep it exclusive. I’m more excited about HiFi rush

 

[Portugeezer]

Man, this would be great if the game wasn't such a disappointment.

Still, maybe worth a buy when on sale.

 

[Gudji]

 

[FrankWza]

 

[TrebleShot]

Daddy Microsoft said “how much did you spend on those dead franchises and Call
Of Duty?”

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

 

[Xion_Stellar]

I hope everyone realizes this is about how Gamepass is completely unsustainable more than it is about Xbox's failure as a platform.

Like Xbox is a failure, no doubt. But it failed BECAUSE of Gamepass and what it takes to feed it, not simply because of a boring slate of exclusives.

Microsoft doesn't need Playstation as much as it needs sales. And it can't sell this game on Xbox.

Well yeah that's the whole issue isn't it? Look at it from Microsoft's point of view the entire Xbox division has been a financial failure from the get go and as far as we know they have never been able to get out of the red this whole time so they have tried many things over the years to try and turn in some profit but nothing ever worked and they just spent 68 billion dollars on the Activision Blizzard purchase so of course if they can't turn in profit from their own consumer base they are going to try the SEGA way and expand to other players.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Yeah but that PS3 pricedrop + those bangers didn't happen until 2009/2010. That all happened same time as MS pulled the Kinect pivot and went after the Wii market. Everybody started switching to Sony at that point because Xbox was losing mindshare from people like us. And people like us always lead the broader market trends.

I feel like that was going to happen regardless. PlayStation has always been a bigger brand and luck can only get you so far.

 

[ManaByte]

Imagine making a bunch of burner accounts to review bomb a game on Metacritic and then it comes out on PS5.

 

[StueyDuck]

xboxera hey...

has any actual insiders verified this.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Well

Well, that was one short-lived prediction Wolf.

Yeah it's over for Microsoft as a console maker if they go through with it.

 

[[Sigma]]

Not buying the game regardless if it is true. Still I find bits of this hilarious.

 

[FrankWza]

I remember someone posting a Hellblade 2 pic saying Just get An Xbox........ (not gonna put you on blast)

Welp.

We ain't getting any DF breakdowns anytime soon.....

 

[jshackles]

What a wild ride this game's timeline has been. First PS5 fans were salty that it became Xbox exclusive. Then it came out that the PS5 version of the game was pretty far along before being cancelled. Now it's coming to PS5 after all.

 

[Dazraell]

Don't care about Starfield either way, but I think some players will be very happy with this outcome

 

[rodrigolfp]

other developers are forced to remain exclusive?

Don't worry to much. They are not forced to be exclusive. They can release on PC too (and Switch too for some).