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EXCLUSIVE - PS5 Pro in Development, Could Release Late 2024
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Venom Snake
Member
So 24 Million in 4 years is a massive flop? so how you feeling about 2 console models that might be around 24 million when they hit the 3 year mark?
Is that a hint that Series XP is coming?
Crispy Gamer
Member
Weird to see people doubting Tom he's been pretty damn reliable I can't wait we've had plenty of evidence to suggest that these systems aren't strong enough for RT at reasonable performance levels. I'll honestly be happy with a locked 120 fps on games that support it instead of 90 and we'll finally be completely done with last generation
Spyxos
Member
Playstation Vita flop 15 Million
Gamecube flop 21,74 Mio
Not sure about N64. I think it also counted as flop. 32,93 Million
Dreamcast flop 9,13 Million
Wii U flop 13,56 Million
Xbox flop 25 Million
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HeisenbergFX4
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I would bet large sums of money it was coming
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Aye my ps5
Currently is my GT7 vr box because there is fuck all to play on it.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
This makes zero sense; why would they do this?
That said, Day 1 for me.
That said, Day 1 for me.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I'm all for it. I probably wouldnt even bother upgrading like I did One X (which was a big boost and had a 4k drive so I could also play movies), but if anyone wants a mid gen upgrade go for it. What do I care if someone buys a Series X V2? I already dont care tons of PC gamers have better rigs than any console I've owned already.
No tech products go static for 7 years except consoles. There's always improvements in other tech gadgets. Hell, compare a toaster now to one in 3-4 years and those ones will probably be better.
When Pro and One X had mid gen refreshes, the games all worked on OG systems. So its not like studios were excluding gamers with launch systems. Mid gen systems are simply an option.
Ignore all the broke jealous babies who are playing older tech.
No tech products go static for 7 years except consoles. There's always improvements in other tech gadgets. Hell, compare a toaster now to one in 3-4 years and those ones will probably be better.
When Pro and One X had mid gen refreshes, the games all worked on OG systems. So its not like studios were excluding gamers with launch systems. Mid gen systems are simply an option.
Ignore all the broke jealous babies who are playing older tech.
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Gamerguy84
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That tweet from Tom wow.
No denying anything, not saying words were twisted, just I'll talk about it later.
No denying anything, not saying words were twisted, just I'll talk about it later.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Utterly fucking pointless move. Other than to fleece gamers again. They barely have any games that use the Ps5 properly yet.
It’s Jim’s Sony though, so probably true.
It’s Jim’s Sony though, so probably true.
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sncvsrtoip
Member
I hope it will be rdna 4 based as rdna 3 rt perf. is still lacking (but not sure its realistic in late 2024). Surprised people thinks there is no need for ps5pro. I mean almost 0 games target 60fps 4k, some already target internal res. close to 1080p for 60fps and thats just doenst look good, additionaly rt is weak on rdna2 and psvr2 has to do in more demanding games reprojection from 60fps and thats introducing visible ghosting on oled vr2. Many reasons to introduce ps5pro especialy late 2024.
Spyxos
Member
Ps5 Pro and Xbox Pro will certainly not manage 4k 60fps. Higher effects and better ray tracing are most likely. 4k and 60 fps are not achievable.
Lone Wolf
Member
Would you bet on MS attempting to make a portable (Series S) in the future as well? I feel that would justify that system a lot more if they attempted that.
Hero of Spielberg
Gold Member
Manufacturers used to call AUS Treasure Island because they could just jack up the prices of everything they sold here. Mind you that was before eComm had become the norm. Still seems to happen a bit though
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Frameboost boxes , I despise this idea, instead of building legit next-gen stuff we get what's supposed to stop patients from switching to pcs.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I don't have enough info to make that bet so I would not make that bet
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I don't know, rdna3 raytracing performance is somewhat weak... I'm not sure there's a rdna3 card within console budget that can produce great raytracing.
Rdna3 is a raster monster tho, a 7700xt equivalent could probably run everything in the ps5 store at 4k 60 as long as raytracing is disabled.
Rdna3 is a raster monster tho, a 7700xt equivalent could probably run everything in the ps5 store at 4k 60 as long as raytracing is disabled.
Gamerguy84
Member
So sorry if this is a dumb question but...
What has held back full, maxed out next gen games? Is it engines like UE5 not being done? Does Sony have their normal proprietary game engines at a mature state or are those still being developed? I heard once they were leaning to unreal. I don't know what they use anymore.
So assuming that might have something to do with it would the further development of those be able to encompass a PS5 PRO as well?
New architectures and all.
What has held back full, maxed out next gen games? Is it engines like UE5 not being done? Does Sony have their normal proprietary game engines at a mature state or are those still being developed? I heard once they were leaning to unreal. I don't know what they use anymore.
So assuming that might have something to do with it would the further development of those be able to encompass a PS5 PRO as well?
New architectures and all.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I'm in for both...I'll pass on one of my xboxs to my son and sell the ps5 to go towards the ps5 pro.
sncvsrtoip
Member
I didnt wrote they will as it all depands of how demanding game is just noted that we already see 2.5 years after ps5/xsx premiere that consoles already struggles.
TheRedRiders
Member
Not sure why Tom is citing the PS5 RT patent as proof for the Pro. I remember LeviathanGamer2 said a while back that the patent is just describing the current RT implementation on PS5.
chromatic9
Member
Not a good thing for me as I was thinking about finally getting a PS5 and GT7, makes me now want to wait until late 2024.
Then again I'm used to consoles dropping in price each year. I bought the PS4 Pro at the PS4 launch price. We've seen the PS5 rise in price in this crazy cost of living crisis post pandemic world. Is the PS5 going to drop significantly by late 2024 or are we going to see them stack the consoles like nvidia graphic cards? PS5 remains around £400-500 and the PS5 Pro is £700-800? Surely not but how is the PS5 going down enough for a sensible PS5 Pro price?
Then again I'm used to consoles dropping in price each year. I bought the PS4 Pro at the PS4 launch price. We've seen the PS5 rise in price in this crazy cost of living crisis post pandemic world. Is the PS5 going to drop significantly by late 2024 or are we going to see them stack the consoles like nvidia graphic cards? PS5 remains around £400-500 and the PS5 Pro is £700-800? Surely not but how is the PS5 going down enough for a sensible PS5 Pro price?
Imtjnotu
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That one dude who always starts his videos with ladies and gentlemen said its not for basic ps5
TheRedRiders
Member
"Mr. Take it with truckload of salt" is usually wrong, a lot lol
I'm afraid the hardware is weak but hasn't shown its weakness yet.
Physiognomonics
Member
No. That Cerny RT Patent is about new accelerating RT hardware possibly as good as Nvidia RT tech. The patent is actually describing what's in RDNA2 as a reference but then describes plenty more hardware units to accelerate things that are currently done via software on RDNA2 GPUs.
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dorkimoe
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Category:PlayStation 5-only games - Wikipedia
Even i dont think this can be the only ones?
already saw it cant do rt for shit.
I like his elegant intro.
Lone Wolf
Member
How is RDNA 3 with RT?
don’t know. better than ps5?
paolo11
Member
Even for Final fantasy 16 or FF 7 remake trilogy?
Lone Wolf
Member
I’d assume so but I don’t know much about PC stuff. Guess I’ll go searching.
Spyxos
Member
We don't know how hardware intensive they are. Smaller indie games are certainly doable.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Pro will not upgrade ssd much and cpu much.
All they can do is bit better gpu and cpu clock... maybe since consoles try to fit in the 200Watt anyway
HeisenbergFX4
Member
A pretty reputable dataminer and leaker of Rockstar games said late last year some devs already had them and I totally believe him
MikeM
Gold Member
My 7900xt hits anywhere around 3080-3090 RT capabilities. Its game dependent obviously. So not terrible, but not anywhere near Nvidia’s 4 series.
SportsFan581
Member
I get a kick out of the posters that run in with the "what would the purpose be?" or "why?" posts. I guess they've never been in the threads when games release with a 30fps cap. 
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