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[ShaiKhulud1989]

Can you give some examples? What did you learn from them?

Phil Spencer is just a typical frat boy with huge ego willing to spend a lot of money to prove silly things. He is basically a forum-level fanboy in charge of the whole division. His subordinates are hardly brighter, because really savyy people was pushed out from Xbox long time ago.

 

[Wildebeest]

The point of an executive is that they are accountable if something goes wrong. They are not just there to be liked and only appear when they have something to say that makes them look good or feel good.

 

[ByWatterson]

Phil Spencer saved Xbox.

But in the sense of someone who swerves the car out of the way of another car in a pile-up, and then slams it into a tree and gets killed. He had no choice, no options, did the only thing he could, but only succeeded in taking a risk that extended the life of the thing he was trying to save and....

...it just died in a different way.

 

[Embearded]

Been saying it for years.

Dude has irreversible damaged not only the Xbox brand but the entire industry..

 

[mayham2199]

I do think Phil had some good ideas but yea his ability to tell a good game from a bad one is just horrible. The Halo stuff that Heisnberg mentioned. I also read he passed on Genshin Impact. How do you pass on Genshin Impact? It's a mobile game and a game that can be played on consoles and rips off Zelda. It also looks really good on both. I don't know what Mihoyo wanted but this was before they even became famous so I doubt they wanted much. It's just so shocking cause Xbox themselves wanted to get into mobile and here is a game that cross saves on both and he's like nah.

Mihoyo is also a China based company a market that is mostly PC so there is a real chance to break into it with a console that is cheaper for people wanting to save money and he just passed on it.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

rips off Zelda

That what Phil saw, I guess.

GI is it's own thing with vastly different battle system.

I don't know what Mihoyo wanted but this was before they even became famous

Before Genshin there was a huge breakthrough in Asia for them called Honkai Impact 3rd (Star Rail is a direct sequel btw, though a very soft one).

The funny thing your post probably shows how MS felt about Hoyo during the Genshin pitch. Sony was very well informed who are they dealing with because they actually understand both Gacha market (Sony's own Fate is a big hit, through Sony Music though) and Asian markets in general. Zelda look-alike was probably the last reason why Sony grabbed Hoyo collab without a second thought and always supported them ever since Genshin Impact.

 

[Alan Wake]

Yeah, the Mattrick blaming is stupid. Yeah, he definitely did some damage at what is now obviously a turning point for the brand but he also had bosses and I highly doubt he went completely rogue.

Much like Mattrick, Spencer is definitely to blame but not entirely. He obviously listens to people above him and doesn't have the final say in everything so he can't be blamed for everything but he is partially responsible as are all Xbox execs.

Matt Booty. Idk how that retard still has a job for example more so then Spencer.

Beats me too. I would have sacked Booty years ago. And Greenberg.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I see this over and over about Phil Spencer not being the problem.. but that it's the execs and that Xbox would already be gone without Phil

I just don't see it…

He took over from the Xbox One failure.. ok. Anyone who took over would've unbundled Kinect and reversed the DRM stuff

He hasn't overseen the creation of any new IP that's worth anything. Maybeeee State of Decay? But otherwise has been there for the bombs of Gears 4 and arguably 5, Halo 5 and Infinite

Gamepass is a failure any way you slice it. It just is.

This idea that Xbox lost last gen so all hope was lost is bullshit. Nintendo rebounded after the WiiU

Spencer is the problem and the absolute reason Xbox is failing.

Explain how he isn't to blame like I'm 5 years old. Without this "he's a gamer" "he wears gamer t shirts"!!!

Look at his as UK/EU Xbox Games Studios boss in 2001 - 2007, then global Xbox Games Studios boss in 2008 till he took over Xbox for good. Look at the software output and how the studios were managed and "grown".

 

[Panajev2001a]

Beats me too. I would have sacked Booty years ago. And Greenberg.

Why is Booty to blame so much and Spencer always has excuses about how his bosses make him do things (Xbox Games Studios EMEA performance in the 2001-2008 period? Not the fault of Xbox Games Studios EMEA's boss, but his boss for global Xbox Games Studios… then Phil becomes the boss of that and the performance of Xbox Games Studios EMEA and global is not Phil's fault but Phil's boss at the time… then Phil gets promoted to head of the Xbox business as a whole and the problem is still not him but his new boss and the people under Phil) . Why cannot I blame Phil Spencer for Booty's failures then?

It is like a cult of personality with Phil… why are people enabling this / supporting this cult?

 

[Apollo Helios]

I like to ask people on this thread, how many years has he been the head honcho of Xbox? And that question precludes any title changes and position changes etc. The real talk, how many years has he been responsible for Xbox?

Now I like you to search for how many years Playstation bosses manage the brand in their positions, then list all the names and job durations of those names. Because meanwhile one brand gets fresh blood and perhaps new directions from all those different suits, there has really only one old blood at the head of Xbox and it's Phil.

 

[Alan Wake]

Why is Booty to blame so much and Spencer always has excuses about how his bosses make him do things (Xbox Games Studios EMEA performance in the 2001-2008 period? Not the fault of Xbox Games Studios EMEA's boss, but his boss for global Xbox Games Studios… then Phil becomes the boss of that and the performance of Xbox Games Studios EMEA and global is not Phil's fault but Phil's boss at the time… then Phil gets promoted to head of the Xbox business as a whole and the problem is still not him but his new boss and the people under Phil) . Why cannot I blame Phil Spencer for Booty's failures then?

It is like a cult of personality with Phil… why are people enabling this / supporting this cult?

I'm not excusing Spencer here. But Booty has a responsibility as well as head of Xbox Game Studios.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I'm not excusing Spencer here. But Booty has a responsibility as well as head of Xbox Game Studios.

Like Phil had when he was the head of XGS? Come on, we are always making excuses to praise Phil "Gamer Friend" Spencer .

 

[Alan Wake]

Like Phil had when he was the head of XGS? Come on, we are always making excuses to praise Phil "Gamer Friend" Spencer .

I'm not. You're kicking on the wrong guy here, lol.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I'm not. You're kicking on the wrong guy here, lol.

Maybe hehe.