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Fable III |OT| King for a day...fool for a lifetime

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
I am liking Fable 3, but it seems like they took 2 and stripped it down to just the main things, I miss a lot of the customization and things from 2.
 

REV 09

Member
Just finished it, personally the final 3rd of this game has been my favorite part of the franchise. The decisions that I had to make were very gray and well thought out; however, the outcomes of those decisions were not felt enough. Still, I enjoyed the end. 4/5
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Prine said:
Kintaro, Fable 3 is a good game its just that theres tremendous potential that it misses on. Fable 3 lets itself down, but its hardly the trainwreck your trying to make others believe.

Its an 8 imo - still a game worth playing if you like the series or like Zelda style games. The share scale of the game is something to be admired, there is no part that looks the same, every area is varied with bustling activity and atmosphere. There is nothing like it.

8 is pushing it. 6 is more realistic IMO. The combat can be fun, but it's way too easy. The Hub World instead of simple menus was tedious the more you played (only way to access the map, switch quests, switch weapons, everything basically). The expressions system was dumbed down. The some quests were legit fun (the D&D Quest was great for example) but most were rather dull. The main quest was rather bad IMO (especially if you were evil). Finally, money broke not only the game, but the final section of the game.

I'm not counting the bugs either. YMMV.

On a personal note, this game has broken the land speed record for amount of copies traded back into my store in the shortest amount of time too. I'm already sitting on 30 copies traded in. Ugh. =/

If this was not a "Fable" game, how would it reviewed? I believe it would have reviewed much lower across the board. Every facet of the game has a "but" attached to it.

If someone were to ask me if they should buy the game, I would say no at $60 but a yes as a Platinum Hit. The bugs should be fixed and DLC should be included around then.
 

derFeef

Member
Played 6 hours straight. I really like it so far and maybe it was a good thing that I skipped Fable 2? Sometimes rough around the edges technically, but I really dig the charm and world.
 

mjc

Member
So if I ramp the rent up on my properties...what kind of repercussions are there? I'm playing as a good guy btw.
 
What sucks is having to win over each person individually :lol

I loved in Fable 2 being able to make everyone love/hate at the same time :lol

And going around to each person individually to get a random quest to farm seals isn't that much fun.

Also is anyone getting some extreme slow down at some points? Like I'm going in slow motion.

I'm enjoying the game apart from that.

Edit: Where can I get more clothes? Doesn't appear to be as much variety as Fable 2.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
Spirit of Jazz said:
What does that even mean?You can kill villagers just as "legit" in Fable 3 if you want to be the generic RPG I kill everyone bad guy. I can't see how you can say Fable 3's worst when it's one of the few games which could potentially force the player to commit evil deads in order to save their people, but why attempt to actually give "evil" characters actual motivation when you can just have them running around killing folks like a loon or give them a God complex along with 99% of the other games out there.

I can't help but think everybody who thinks Fable 1 was the best in the franchise uses the same logic because it suffers from an even worst story, equally as bad combat, less characters on screen, inferior level/world design, fewer things to do... the list goes on.

Fable 3 has huge issues, the combat being the main one and yet people insist on whining about interesting design like the fact there's consequence to being a terrible king. The combat's atrocious given the ethos of the system. Peter's concept for 1 button combat when he presented it at GDC was interesting because it offered something unique. However in the 2 years it's not been improved on in the slightest, in fact the context sensitive actions which the concept revolved around are nowhere to be seen, I swear in Fable 2 it at least had animation for blows against walls. Along with the technical hitches I just find that shit appalling.

Yet nobody seems to give a shit, all combat related complaints are "It's too easy" well no shit, every Fable game has a difficulty curve that a 4 year old could master in 5 minutes. The issue is that the engine's not been developed into something interesting and fun like it was supposed to.
The combat is a joke... not even going to touch on that. The game is also a buggy mess with the framerate of a card game.

But with a game thats so aptly named like Fable, I really don't even see the need for a gray area or an inbetween - and Lionhead doesn't know what side of the fence it wants to stay on either.

Game isn't worth 60 bucks. I really feel its one of the bigger disappointments of the year too.
 
DY_nasty said:
The combat is a joke... not even going to touch on that. The game is also a buggy mess with the framerate of a card game.

But with a game thats so aptly named like Fable, I really don't even see the need for a gray area or an inbetween - and Lionhead doesn't know what side of the fence it wants to stay on either.

Game isn't worth 60 bucks. I really feel its one of the bigger disappointments of the year too.
Sad to say I agree with this. Biggest disappointment since Crackdown 2 for me.

If Lionhead wants to continue with Fable they're going to have to sit down and decide on just what game it is they really want to make. Bullet point systems like "holding hands" that fall apart on sloped surfaces or staircases, an economy that's not only too easy to exploit, but actually breaks the end game, an expression system that's either linear or random, padded with fetch quests, weak chest and dungeon rewards, and a black and white morality system where the story assumes you're not a tyrant just leaves me with the impression that different teams worked on all these systems in isolation with no understanding of how it was all going to come together. Throw in the bugs for good measure along with day 1 DLC and you've got a pretty solid mess across the board.

I seriously doubt I'll continue past the end game (missing out on treasure chests filled with common gems and stock jewelry), or put in the time on a second run-through as evil. Bummer.
 
I have over 329 villager friends and 127 people who love me. :lol

Thankfully, I didn't individually interact with all of them, I guess everyone loves my queen since I prevented everyone from dying during the final battle (I had 6.5+ million in the treasury). Btw, does anyone have a king costume they'd be willing to trade me? I'll give you my queen costume in return.

Also, just found my last silver key, now off to look for the remaining books. I love this game so much. It's a shame most of you dislike it. :/
 

fernoca

Member
7echnicolor said:
I have over 329 villager friends and 127 people who love me. :lol

Thankfully, I didn't individually interact with all of them, I guess everyone loves my queen since I prevented everyone from dying during the final battle (I had 6.5+ million in the treasury). Btw, does anyone have a king costume they'd be willing to trade me? I'll give you my queen costume in return.

Also, just found my last silver key, now off to look for the remaining books. I love this game so much. It's a shame most of you dislike it. :/
They can like you and some even be "best friends", but the get the "20 friends achievement" you need to do "20 friendship-quests". :p

In my case, I'm only missing 8 achievements; though the difficult one. Need like 15 silver keys, 20 Gnomes, and 5 flowers. And then the weapons ones.

One of my favorite games this year. :)
Though Assassin's Creed Brotherhood may end as my favorite one, since ACII was my favorite game last year. :p
But in any case, is my most played Fable game so far. Thought after finishing Halo Reach multiple times I wasn't going to play this a lot, even less after getting the Legendary-solo achievement, but I'm glad I was wrong.
 
Having to repair every house one by one was a horrendous design choice. It literally takes me over 10 minutes to repair all my houses. For shame, Peter Molyneux, for shame.

I would have been willing to hire, for 10% of the rent, a property management specialist. I'd have asked Jasper but he has apparently turned into a deaf mute.
 

Snuggles

erotic butter maelstrom
I was feeling really down on this game last night but after playing a few hours tonight it's really grown on me. Once I got to Bowerstone I got off the golden trail and did my own thing and it was nice. Kind of reminded me of why I like this series so much. I'm making some mad cash from my rental places and I've spent way to much time customizing my character. The one new thing that I do actually like is the sanctuary. I like having a little hub with all my shit, neat idea.

it's a silly game but it's laid back fun.
 

_dd_

Member
Kintaro said:
On a personal note, this game has broken the land speed record for amount of copies traded back into my store in the shortest amount of time too. I'm already sitting on 30 copies traded in. Ugh. =/

Just out of curiosity, what is the trade in value for Fable III?
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
_dd_ said:
Just out of curiosity, what is the trade in value for Fable III?

I think it is $25 or something. $30 maybe? $25 sticks out in my mind ATM. I'm in the middle of late night fall cleaning (I can't sleep and I'm bored okay?! Get off my back!) so I can't recall right now.

You know, Lionhead could make a killer Zelda type game if they would get over their fixation with "choice" and gimmicks.
 

Dead

well not really...yet
Snuggler said:
I was feeling really down on this game last night but after playing a few hours tonight it's really grown on me. Once I got to Bowerstone I got off the golden trail and did my own thing and it was nice. Kind of reminded me of why I like this series so much. I'm making some mad cash from my rental places and I've spent way to much time customizing my character. The one new thing that I do actually like is the sanctuary. I like having a little hub with all my shit, neat idea.

it's a silly game but it's laid back fun.
Im 20 hours into the game, barely halfway into the main story and so far I've got ~5 Million already racked up just from my business ventures. I never once left the game on idling just to collect money either.

And yeah, I love the Sanctuary, I spend shit loads of time in there just messing around in the wardrobe :lol

Anyways, this game is better than Fable 2 in pretty much every way, bar the lack of expression wheel. Im loving the hell out of it.
 

RedStep

Member
Tadale said:
I think I've found a pretty nasty bug. I'm at the point where you have to buy a beard and tattoo for a mercenary disguise, and after buying both neither will show up in the dressing room. Also, Jasper will not talk to me in any room.

Make sure you use RB/LB and RT/LT to change "collections". The beard and tattoo are not in the same collection as the suit.
 

Aaron

Member
Spirit of Jazz said:
I can't help but think everybody who thinks Fable 1 was the best in the franchise uses the same logic because it suffers from an even worst story, equally as bad combat, less characters on screen, inferior level/world design, fewer things to do... the list goes on.
Full stop on this bullshit. The combat in the original Fable was pretty robust, especially in regards to how it handled magic. This was stripped down and reduced to the dull tedium that was Fable 2, which carried on unchanged to 3. Story and world design have always been pretty poor, and any improvements the series has seen have been marginal at best.
 
Dead said:
Im 20 hours into the game, barely halfway into the main story and so far I've got ~5 Million already racked up just from my business ventures. I never once left the game on idling just to collect money either.

And yeah, I love the Sanctuary, I spend shit loads of time in there just messing around in the wardrobe :lol

Anyways, this game is better than Fable 2 in pretty much every way, bar the lack of expression wheel. Im loving the hell out of it.

And the problem that the storyline is completely separated from your actions between the missions. You gain support is being hailed as revolution leader by acting like a complete ass to the people.
 
CecilRousso said:
And the problem that the storyline is completely separated from your actions between the missions. You gain support is being hailed as revolution leader by acting like a complete ass to the people.
Edit: nvm I read your post wrong.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
Aaron said:
Full stop on this bullshit. The combat in the original Fable was pretty robust, especially in regards to how it handled magic. This was stripped down and reduced to the dull tedium that was Fable 2, which carried on unchanged to 3. Story and world design have always been pretty poor, and any improvements the series has seen have been marginal at best.
I still think that its taken steps backward. 1 is still the best in the series.

Fable 3 is an enjoyable game, but its not worth 60 bucks and I'm trading it in first chance that I get.

So many little things are wrong with this game...
 

DuckRacer

Member
*comes back from Aurora*

*moves wife into palace without seeing her first*

*wife completely disappears*

Come on. I don't think she divorced me because the stats screen says I still have a wife, but even if she did I'd still know about it. There's no heart floating on the world map though, so who knows.

So many little things about this game are really annoying me.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
DuckRacer said:
*comes back from Aurora*

*moves wife into palace without seeing her first*

*wife completely disappears*

Come on. I don't think she divorced me because the stats screen says I still have a wife, but even if she did I'd still know about it. There's no heart floating on the world map though, so who knows.

So many little things about this game are really annoying me.
Same shit happened to me. Married a stall vendor in Mourningwood, moved her into my house in Brightwall, had a child.

She's there once. My newborn is all alone. I go back to Mourningwood, she's not at the stall and I can't buy anything there either. I search Brightwall, she's nowhere to be found. Fortunately, I was able to divorce her, but apparently she won the custody battle or some shit and took away my child before I was able to open that damned demon door while I still gave a fuck.

I'd also feel a little better if there was another Lady Gray figure or at least something similar in this game... that was a fun set of quests if nothing else.

Oh and that huge rack for your trophies in the sanctuary? Never gets filled. Complete waste of space.
 

stupei

Member
Dead said:
Im 20 hours into the game, barely halfway into the main story and so far I've got ~5 Million already racked up just from my business ventures. I never once left the game on idling just to collect money either.

And yeah, I love the Sanctuary, I spend shit loads of time in there just messing around in the wardrobe :lol

Anyways, this game is better than Fable 2 in pretty much every way, bar the lack of expression wheel. Im loving the hell out of it.

I loved it until Jasper stopped talking. :\

Have they worked out a fix for this yet, does anyone know? It's really terrible. Didn't even realize how bad until I jumped into a friend's game for a while tonight, and heard him talking in there. Realized how much I missed his commentary. Trying on outfits just isn't the same without Cleese, dammit!
 

StarEye

The Amiga Brotherhood
DualShadow said:
What sucks is having to win over each person individually :lol

I loved in Fable 2 being able to make everyone love/hate at the same time :lol

You get experience for this in Fable 3, so I assume it's to prevent you from exploiting this. Although I'm pretty sure farting in a crowd doesn't just affect one person (other than yourself) in real life.
 

Plasma

Banned
stupei said:
I loved it until Jasper stopped talking. :\

Have they worked out a fix for this yet, does anyone know? It's really terrible. Didn't even realize how bad until I jumped into a friend's game for a while tonight, and heard him talking in there. Realized how much I missed his commentary. Trying on outfits just isn't the same without Cleese, dammit!

Nope hasn't been fixed yet, happened in my second run through again.
 

Interfectum

Member
without spoiling, can anyone tell me if you can continue to play the game after you beat it... mainly for the collection quests/achievements and whatnot.
 
With each hour I play I like the game less and less, which is never a good thing.

The slow down is so bad it's almost comical. Stuttering like crazy when I'm doing a stupid job mini-game?

General glitches and bugs - dog stuck in geometry, wife disappearing, wonky golden crumb trail

Combat continues to be mind numbingly easy.

The real estate system is broken if I can buy every single property available without a second thought halfway through the game.

Expression system is tedious and boring. Hold A for person to like you x 1,000.

Being King would be interesting if there was at least one morally gray decision to be made but there hasn't been.
Playing a good guy but I did sign off on the brothel though. Sucks when the most interesting choice I've had to make occurs within the first 15 mins of the game

Now it's just a quick race to the end so I can go ahead and put the sucker on ebay. To anyone on the fence, it's not a horrible game, but it's not good either. Worth a rental.
 
DY_nasty said:
I'd also feel a little better if there was another Lady Gray figure or at least something similar in this game... that was a fun set of quests if nothing else.
The curious thing is, Lady Grey was actually spotted in an IGN video interview with Molyneux earlier in the year when he was demonstrating the map and showing how you can view your properties and spouse. I wouldn't be surprised if they held her back for DLC.

Image here
 

Prine

Banned
stupei said:
I loved it until Jasper stopped talking. :\

Have they worked out a fix for this yet, does anyone know? It's really terrible. Didn't even realize how bad until I jumped into a friend's game for a while tonight, and heard him talking in there. Realized how much I missed his commentary. Trying on outfits just isn't the same without Cleese, dammit!

LIONHEAD ARE YOU LISTENING??? Give us some sort of response at least. Seems to be happening to a lot of folks.
 

Raide

Member
Loved Fable 1 & 2 but I am holding off Fable 3 until a patch appears. I don't want to get too engrossed into the game and then end up with some of the bugs and issues people have here.
 
Despite all the bugs, glitches and issues Fable 3 has- I still love it. Is that so wrong GAF? I find myself really enjoying all the side missions and racking up money. The humor is never ending and the collecting of gnomes, keys and flowers is addicting.
 

U2NUMB

Member
Friend of mine just let me know that 30 hours into it her game it now only loads her character floating in white space... can not join anyone can not have anyone join her game. She is crushed.. and a bit upset.
 

Warnen

Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Interfectum said:
without spoiling, can anyone tell me if you can continue to play the game after you beat it... mainly for the collection quests/achievements and whatnot.


Yes, some quest only show up after u beat he main game, can't finish the collection stuff too.
 

Mr. Sam

Member
ultron87 said:
Wow, it is really easy to make an absurd amount of money with Level 5 Blacksmithing in a very short period of time.

And even easier to use that money to buy every piece of property in Albion and then sit back, relax and watch the money roll in.

Irritating when slowdown makes me miss a strike, mind you. Very irritating.
 

glaurung

Member
U2NUMB said:
Friend of mine just let me know that 30 hours into it her game it now only loads her character floating in white space... can not join anyone can not have anyone join her game. She is crushed.. and a bit upset.
Maybe she overleveled and became god?

Or maybe simply died and now is a ghost?
 
Yikes, the ending segment was a giant mess and pretty much canceled out any of the good will I had left toward the game. It is obvious it was extremely rushed. I feel like a sucker for playing through this game.
 

Poona

Member
U2NUMB said:
Friend of mine just let me know that 30 hours into it her game it now only loads her character floating in white space... can not join anyone can not have anyone join her game. She is crushed.. and a bit upset.

Really?

Because some people are finding a fix for it, by inviting a friend to their game:

http://lionhead.com/forums/t/294114.aspx

He was stuck in a free fall. He added me as a friend and invited me to join his game.

I then went to a shop and purchased a mustache. Any wearable item will do. When you buy an item you're given option X - Dressing Room. When you choose that your free-falling friend will then also be able to go to the Dressing Room, and then be FREE of the FREE FALL.

So if you're free falling and it would ruin your life to reload, just ask a friend for help! I can confirm it works!
 

Red

Member
Aaron said:
Full stop on this bullshit. The combat in the original Fable was pretty robust, especially in regards to how it handled magic. This was stripped down and reduced to the dull tedium that was Fable 2, which carried on unchanged to 3. Story and world design have always been pretty poor, and any improvements the series has seen have been marginal at best.
I liked the part where there were three enemy types, and one of them couldn't even move.

I'll give you the point on magic, though.
 
Square Triangle said:
Despite all the bugs, glitches and issues Fable 3 has- I still love it. Is that so wrong GAF? I find myself really enjoying all the side missions and racking up money. The humor is never ending and the collecting of gnomes, keys and flowers is addicting.
No I like it a lot too, nothing wrong with that, but I also recognize that there are a lot of issues too that probably should have been fixed before launch.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
Sir Garbageman said:
With each hour I play I like the game less and less, which is never a good thing.

The slow down is so bad it's almost comical. Stuttering like crazy when I'm doing a stupid job mini-game?

General glitches and bugs - dog stuck in geometry, wife disappearing, wonky golden crumb trail

Combat continues to be mind numbingly easy.

The real estate system is broken if I can buy every single property available without a second thought halfway through the game.

Expression system is tedious and boring. Hold A for person to like you x 1,000.

Being King would be interesting if there was at least one morally gray decision to be made but there hasn't been.
Playing a good guy but I did sign off on the brothel though. Sucks when the most interesting choice I've had to make occurs within the first 15 mins of the game

Now it's just a quick race to the end so I can go ahead and put the sucker on ebay. To anyone on the fence, it's not a horrible game, but it's not good either. Worth a rental.
Some of the worst slowdown and frame rate issues I've ever had to endure. If its this fucking bad, just give the texture pop - fuck it.
Interfectum said:
without spoiling, can anyone tell me if you can continue to play the game after you beat it... mainly for the collection quests/achievements and whatnot.
Yes.
 

FrankT

Member
Neuromancer said:
No I like it a lot too, nothing wrong with that, but I also recognize that there are a lot of issues too that probably should have been fixed before launch.

Basically my feeling as well. I mean I was sucked in for 30-40 hours I've put into so far though I still believe the ending and some of the writing was weak compared to the others. I want some healthy DLC as well, but first and foremost fix these awful bugs and tech issues.

U2NUMB said:
Friend of mine just let me know that 30 hours into it her game it now only loads her character floating in white space... can not join anyone can not have anyone join her game. She is crushed.. and a bit upset.

Had this nearly happen too for a buddy of mine while we were playing co-op. He somehow managed to get out of it, but not cool.
 
I finished Fable 3 yesterday and overall I really enjoyed it, technical issues and all. I can forgive those, however I hated how the game wrapped up because it made my post game pretty worthless.

First of all, I had no idea that 121 days to go before the war = the actual last day of preparation. So because I wasn't ready to be done raising the money I needed, I fell way short, millions of people died, and now I can't even find a place to sell my loot. All the pawn broker businesses are vacant, as are 99% of all the businesses. Even if I buy one and re-open, there's no one to sell anything or buy anything I may actually need. Most everyone is dead, post-siege. A ton of side quests I still could be doing are now lost forever, and there's basically nothing left for me to do now the main quest is over. Silly me for not being a total despot, not breaking all my promises, and generally trying to go the "good" route. You do, and you're fucked.

Like I said, for the most part I had a really good time with Fable 3. Unfortunately the end left a real bad taste in my mouth.
 

CAW

Member
I bought the LE which comes with an exclusive quest. Does anyone know the name of this quest? I've already beaten the game once, now I'm going through on my new character trying to do as much as possible (side quests, finding outfits and weapons, etc).
 
DidntKnowJack said:
I finished Fable 3 yesterday and overall I really enjoyed it, technical issues and all. I can forgive those, however I hated how the game wrapped up because it made my post game pretty worthless.

First of all, I had no idea that 121 days to go before the war = the actual last day of preparation. So because I wasn't ready to be done raising the money I needed, I fell way short, millions of people died, and now I can't even find a place to sell my loot. All the pawn broker businesses are vacant, as are 99% of all the businesses. Even if I buy one and re-open, there's no one to sell anything or buy anything I may actually need. Most everyone is dead, post-siege. A ton of side quests I still could be doing are now lost forever, and there's basically nothing left for me to do now the main quest is over. Silly me for not being a total despot, not breaking all my promises, and generally trying to go the "good" route. You do, and you're fucked.

Like I said, for the most part I had a really good time with Fable 3. Unfortunately the end left a real bad taste in my mouth.

See, I'm not the only one that has a problem with the way it ended.

I pretty much had the same problems as you.
It crept up on me so fast, I didn't have enough time to make enough Gold to save everyone.

One of the worst ways to end a game, in my opinion.
 

jkanownik

Member
Last night I realized a side quest switched my weapon on me without telling me, so had I wasted a ton of time making friends with people thinking it was improving my Casanova sword. I would have checked it more often if it wasn't such a pain in the ass. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.

The world was engrossing enough that I was ignoring the boatload of little issues with the game. It's amazing how critical you can get with this game once you look past the charm. I am now completely apathetic about the game and will try to chug through the rest of it.
 
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