Not really bringing back, for certain crimes, as far I understand the legal situation in Turkey, like high treason it was never fully abolished.
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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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It's hard for me to care when they're running over protestors with tanks tbh.
I wonder if they'll let them land
its fucked up... most of those soliders were probably just following orders thinking theyd "save the country" ...
MMaRsu
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Good. They deserve the dictator prick.
I hope for sane minded Turks that they come to other more western countries who will not impose religious laws upon them.
DXB-KNIGHT
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Don't know but it seems Turks has a sense of humor even during such times
Herbspiceguy
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I've always frequented poorer neighbourhoods in Rotterdam with a lot of Turkish people (their restaurants and grocers offer the best quality/price). Not once did I meet any negative Erdogan sentiment. It's like everyone just blindly supports this guy.
I think their background has something to do with it, they're probably not the most well educated. Plus I think national pride, identity and Islam plays a big part. Anti Erdogan = Anti islam = the west not wanting an Islamic nation to succeed. That is also what's been flooding the Turkish/Dutch Facebook community since this happened.
Apparently, it has landed. 7 soldiers and 1 civilian
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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This was my fear. Innocent people dying. I am. Glad this did not exploded to civil war.
CNN Greece reporting those people might be coupists.
What is also making its rounds on social media apparently are photographs of coupists being beheaded. Again, CNN Greece reporting on that. Just don't forget to not believe everything you see or read in the coming fallout.
And_Gignac
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The plotters committed disgusting attrocities against the civilian population. They seemed to not have the best interests of the population as a priority.
And now Erdogan can use the cruelty of the plotters to his advantage. What a fucking disgraceful situation.
And now Erdogan can use the cruelty of the plotters to his advantage. What a fucking disgraceful situation.
LeadenStride
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They still don't deserve to die.
MMaRsu
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Pretty much if you are anti erdogan you are anti islamic and maybe even considered anti Turkey to some of these people. They seem ignorant. Nvm, they are ignorant.
Hip Hop
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The people that ran over civilians? Yes they do.
nature boy
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So no hope of Erdogan moderating?
Not what the world needs.
Not what the world needs.
I can totally see that happening.
Pissed off citizens have no business holding and punishing those captured soldiers.
The military and police need to step in fast and apprehend the rogue soldiers; get them away from rabid crowds, ASAP.
Wait,since when resign considered a dictator?
That man did many good things for his country.
nature boy
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If they did that, they would be kicked out of any European institution.
The faction that launched the coup got royally fucked.
No support from the rest of the army, the political parties (including oppositions), the citizens or the police.
Erdogan stands to come out of this incident more powerful than ever.
MMaRsu
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Such as?
RoadHazard
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I said "spontaneous reaction". Because, agan, Erdogan being in power is awful. Turkey needs to move toward becoming a secular democracy, not a theocratic dictatorship. Especially if they ever want a chance at getting into the EU. With how things are currently going that thought is laughable.
So that's why I was spontaneously a bit disappointed that these people, who clearly disagree with what Erdogan is doing, failed. But no, of course doing it this way isn't right. People have, unfathomably, voted for the country to take this direction, so I guess they'll have to live with that.
Yes, of course.
No. But this is sort of the opposite, in some ways. Religious rule is a huge disaster whenever it happens.
EU Integration is gone. Long gone now. Nato membership will stay. Some nations need their airports.
The military coup didn't achieve its objectives and the goverment regained control.
It is surreal seeing turkish planes bombing Ankara: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgA5wsshJm8&feature=youtu.be, launching bombs in the middle of the city.
What do you expect? That's the life of meat shields, called forth by Erdogan. Instead of saying they should throw themselves in front of the soldiers, he could have told them to stay home.
Anyway, has anything meaningful happened in the last ~6 hours?
JimmyRustler
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Yeah, lets thank one man for the economic uprising of Turkey instead of its people.
LeadenStride
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No, they don't. What good is it going to do to anybody? Of course they committed a horrible crime, but killing them would only be an act of revenge.
Silent Chief
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A proper coup should have involved capturing Erdogan as the first move.
Those are pretty big tanks. Leopard?
Those are pretty big tanks. Leopard?
Funyarinpa
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I wish only the assholes who voted for Erdoğan were subjected to his rule.
From the Economist:
Pretty good stuff.
However, the article goes into detail about the chance of his achievements being undermined due to slowing economy, increasing deficits and potential social instability.
Ok bud.
Spoiler: They're not
Chittagong
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U wot now m8
storafötter
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Dont see any good outcome out of this. I feel sorry for those who want a more free and liberal turkey. It is also disgusting that needless deaths happen.
I did learn a lot by reading this thread about the odd constitutional thing for the military. I do think in some cases force will be needed to guarantee liberties but the way things have been handled and gone is disgusting.
I genuinely believed that Turkey was becoming a more secular country and things were improving but it is sad to see things falling to such lengths. Having such a tyrant as a popular leader is never a good sign.
Wish the Turkish people the best but cannot see any positive outcome. Revenge from the winning side is guaranteed.
I did learn a lot by reading this thread about the odd constitutional thing for the military. I do think in some cases force will be needed to guarantee liberties but the way things have been handled and gone is disgusting.
I genuinely believed that Turkey was becoming a more secular country and things were improving but it is sad to see things falling to such lengths. Having such a tyrant as a popular leader is never a good sign.
Wish the Turkish people the best but cannot see any positive outcome. Revenge from the winning side is guaranteed.
Always-honest
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They are not.
But that's the thing: As long as the foot soldiers were actually following commands, they should be fine (more or less, probably still going to lose their jobs), only the officers up the chain of command committed treason. Could still be a larger group, of course.
They're not in the EU, they're in talks for joining but haven't managed to meet the human rights criteria. You can probably tell why.
the foot soldiers seem to be the ones surrounded by enraged people. i honestly fear for their safety no matter what rank
Phantast2k
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@AFP
#BREAKING Turkish military helicopter lands in Greece, 8 request asylum: Greek police
/this pic is being circulated with the news:
Looks like a Black Hawk.
It almost feels intentional.
If the citizens kill off the captured rebel soldiers, then the government won't have to do it themselves. Like, where the fuck are the police and special forces? Why haven't these rebel soldiers been removed from mob custody?
Lovely Salsa
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Wait, some soldiers got beheaded? WTF
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