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I just wanted to point out that, while its not enough of a % to warrant worry of Turkey turning into an Isis state, it's still sad it's 12% - you know?
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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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SkylineRKR
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Yeah I meant its been gone to shit since his last election or so.
He's systematically changing rules in his favor. Some don't even rule out he staged this coup.
Theonik
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I am not sure if getting involved is in Greece's better interest. Granting political asylum is possibly a moral conundrum if the soldiers were not involved in the coup. However, Turkey has for years been looking for an excuse to invade Greece so this might be very risky.
Are from England?
Frustrated_me
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Christ you keep posting this as if it's something positive. Even .01℅ is shocking considering WHAT Sharia law is.
I'll agree to that.
Lemme know when thought policing becomes a reality, because until then, nothing much can be done about what that 12% thinks.
You're completely overstating their clout or influence over the rest of the country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vufd_4rups
I'm not sure if its related to that video of bodies mutilated by high caliber ammunition.
that wasn't a helicopter firing on civilians.
that was an F16 firing on unarmed civilians.
it is a war crime.
hope the pilot is beheaded.
Frustrated_me
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+ Thousands of Kurds and Turkish forces Kurds in an undocumented civil war in South East Turkey.
Erdogan and the majority of its supporters are blood thirsty scumbags.
Following illegal orders is not an excuse, soldiers have the duty to refuse those orders. If they carry them out they are as guilty as the ones who gave the orders.
Of course the question is if these orders were illegal, the turkish military has the duty to defend the secular state and is authorized to overthrow the government but I think that part of the constitution has been changed??? I should probably look that up.
Not that it matters anyway, with Erdogan winning he'll make sure the coupists get punished.
Hope for beheadings. Thats the spirit.
only 12 percent.. that's an easy 8-9 million people that actually admit to wanting Sharia Law.. let alone the people that might sympathize with it but don't actually admit it.
That's a huge fucking problem if that many people are for it. And it's only getting worse.
SkylineRKR
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Shouldn't resort to barbaric measures.
Frustrated_me
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Jesus Christ.
I don't think they knew that. They took a gamble hoping his supporters would just shy away and join the coup momentum. The mood really changed once he set his supporters in street. That changed the tide.
both are NATO members and Greece is part of the EU. Erdogan might be a madman, but that's just not going to happen
It's the 3rd lowest percentage in the Muslim world, behind only Albania and Kazakhstan.
Those kind of people have always existed in Turkey. That makes the notion of Turkey becoming an Islamist state pretty ridiculous.
They do, they're mad that they're not eligible for an EU membership at the moment and they won't be for a very long time.
I would worry more about the UK than the EU right now.
lol
That sure must be an amazing excuse to get the NATO out of the way first.
No way it was F16. These shots are coming from a gun which is stationary, which is impossible for F16 to achieve. Also they are not so unarmed, there are videos of crowd shooting on planes/helicopters with small arms. I don't know if it was some militia, police or just armed civilians.
Beheading? That's some real democracy which was successfully defended last night /s.
Exactly.
That's a helicopter, I don't know why you think it isn't, you can even hear it.
Rate of fire is a bit slow for most fighters out there and the way it's tracking is akin to that of a mounted rotary canon.
F16s/other gun runs sound like a babby a-10.
This is an F16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP4c08RojAc
I also believe it was engaging an armed target considering it's receiving green tracer fire, I don't think everything should be taken at immediate face value though - civilians might have been killed, they also might not have by this.
The video I saw shows fire in the distance, not at the people on the street.
George Oscar Bluth II
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What the fuck.
Wow, chill out.
This is a member of nato...saying that makes the whole thing sound crazy...being run by an Islamist strongman. Seriously need to lock all of the middle east off from the rest of the world cutting off all communication for 100 years and then see if they have made any progress.
Always-honest
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What's this fascination with beheadings?
Frustrated_me
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fierrotlepou
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I still don't understand how people can behead other LIVING people, it's so completely fucked up that I can't grasp it.
Always-honest
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Same here.
If NATO gave a shit about that small segment of Turkey's population, then they would have done something about it.
Or not, since it has zero bearing on Turkey's invaluable geopolitical status in that region.
Awful, simply awful. Looks like last nights coup attempt and the unfolding events right now will push Turkey even further away from secularism and into the hands of radicals.
Well, if it's just 12% who's for beheading the soldiers who participated in last nights tragic events, then we really shouldn't worry, right? Law and order at it's finest. Why not even give visa-free access to the Schengen zone for 75 million people from whom barely 12% are radicalized?
ferrasvansen
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Judging by twitter a lot of folk from Turkey think the same. Strange goings on indeed, if he didn't stage it he certainly knew it was coming and used it to his advantage.
Alkastelca
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Marvel
could never
I know, sickening.
Kralamoonard
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Whilst I wouldn't certainly go to beheading the pilot, if you saw the videos and pictures of then mangled bodies on the streets they were beheadings and much worse. Certainly wouldn't want the pilot who committed that war crime unpunished (ofc not by beheading).
They were innocent people. Get outta here with that shit.
How would you like it if your family members were gunned down in the street left to die with their intestines strewn out their bodies bleeding out? Bloody hell does this comment show a great lack of empathy.
They were innocent people. Get outta here with that shit.
How would you like it if your family members were gunned down in the street left to die with their intestines strewn out their bodies bleeding out? Bloody hell does this comment show a great lack of empathy.
Theonik
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NATO doesn't get involved in war between NATO members. Last time was in Cyprus in the 70s were the Turkish army captured northern Cyprus taking advantage of a coup. Both nations were in NATO.
Also Turkey has threatened war on Greece as recently as the 90s and military tensions have greatly intensified again since the early 2000s.
Turkish military procurements are also alarming for Greek authorities. Rattling the hornets nest is the last thing they want to do.
It's not enough to kill them, you need to take their head too, I guess.
Maybe it's some sort of medieval punishment that's somehow still being carried over to current age?
ferrasvansen
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Get a grip, in that case those beheading are no better than the soldiers who killed, in fact worse, since they are all spouting about democracy and rule of law.
PodcastFips
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People asking for decapitations are certainly the right people to support the Turkish government throughout the night.
What a shame.
What a shame.
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What a scary post. You're nuts.
DiipuSurotu
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Ladies and gentlemen... 2016...
MMaRsu
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Ah now we have gaf members calling for beheading.
You are of Islamic religion by any chance?
The visa situation is irrelevant to the point I was addressing with that poster, regarding Turkey's supposed future as an Islamist state.
If the EU decides to grant Turkey visa-free access, then that's their business. EU citizens are free to protest such a decision, if they feel that threatened by it.
Kralamoonard
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And we also have GAF members show no concern for gun downed civilians saying 'f*ck 'em'.
This thread is a shitshow. I'm out.
This thread is a shitshow. I'm out.
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