Wait, some soldiers got beheaded? WTF
No concrete source yet, but the rumour is supposedly spreading across social media.
Wait, some soldiers got beheaded? WTF
If civilians are beheading coup soldier those civilians needs to be arrested and charged with murder.
How Turkey is in he EU is beyond me as everything they do is act like a third world country.
Yes of course, the more outings of 'the people standing up to the conspirators', the stronger the base of Erdogan. It's straight out of dictator handbook.It almost feels intentional.
If the citizens kill off the captured rebel soldiers, then the government won't have to do it themselves. Like, where the fuck are the police and special forces? Why haven't these rebel soldiers been removed from mob custody?
How Turkey is in he EU is beyond me as everything they do is act like a third world country.
Wait, some soldiers got beheaded? WTF
THEY ARE NOT IN THE EU
Conspiracy theories, sympathising with Soldiers killing civilians. Attempts to blame others for running over civilians with tanks.
This thread is fucking disgusting.
They are not in the EU but are members of the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights.
Look at some of the events that happened in the last 2-3 years..
Erdogan election night fraud
Gezi park Protests
Suicide bombings
Downing of Russian aircraft
Incursion within Iraq
Military coup
Calling for government institutions to be cleansed
Now bringing back the death penalty and rumors of Beheading
All happened in a nato member state that's currently in the process of joining the EU. How utterly fucked is Turkey?
Does that mean they have some say in EU rulings in general while not being a official member of the Union?They are not in the EU but are members of the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights.
You are confusing the Council of Europe, with the European Council. Yes, those are two very different things.Does that mean they have some say in EU rulings in general while not being a official member of the Union?
Does that mean they have some say in EU rulings in general while not being a official member of the Union?
Does that mean they have some say in EU rulings in general while not being a official member of the Union?
They're no where near being Islamist; barely 12% even favour the idea of Sharia Law over the current government system.A shame where Turkey has gone under Erdogan, full blown hardcore Islamist. A hotbed for ISIS and JAN supporters.
Does that mean they have some say in EU rulings in general while not being a official member of the Union?
Yeah, they're never getting in. The EU will continue to move the goalposts to prevent it.Turkey is no where near joining the EU. Especially with Erdogan.
They are clearly just being strung along because the EU needs their cooperation in dealing with the Syrian crisis.
Multiple states would veto their accession.
Moving goalposts? Turkey is moving away all by itself.Yeah, they're never getting in. The EU will continue to move the goalposts to prevent it.
Does that mean they have some say in EU rulings in general while not being a official member of the Union?
You are confusing the Council of Europe, with the European Council. Yes, those are two very different things.
Nah, the "European Union" and the "Council and Europe" are totally separate entities.
Ahh I see. Thanks.Not formally, but obviously some decisions have been made in the interest of maintaining good relations with Turkey.
Turkey has no problem in flexing its arm when it's not happy.
Which will probably happen after this failed attempt.
Turkey was doing great a few years ago, tourism also flourished.
But since Erdogan its like they are being warped back at least 50 years.
From the Economist:
His achievements in over 11 years as prime minister are equally impressive. Since AK came to power in November 2002, economic growth has averaged some 5%. Inflation has been tamed. The army has been brought under greater civilian control. Mr Erdogan has made more progress than any previous political leader in giving Turkeys Kurds greater rights. In 2005 he achieved something that had eluded all his predecessors: the start of membership talks with the European Union.
Pretty good stuff.
However, the article goes into detail about the chance of his achievements being undermined due to slowing economy, increasing deficits and potential social instability.
Conspiracy theories, sympathising with Soldiers killing civilians. Attempts to blame others for running over civilians with tanks.
This thread is fucking disgusting.
What do you expect? They are trained to kill.
The one who tells barehanded people to go against tanks is responsible. I don't remember anyone was killed until Erdogan motivated people to attack army. And then you expect soldiers surrounded by mobs to act rationally? Sure. Power hungry ISIS supporting as*hole will bring whole region to catastrophe.
I'd say they have a brighter future than Turkey at least.I don't think joining the EU is even that popular these days, turkey will not care that much.
Don't see the EU having a bright future with big players like the UK leaving..
Turkey was doing great a few years ago, tourism also flourished.
But since Erdogan its like they are being warped back at least 50 years.
Oh, only 12% are in favor of minorities and infidels being murdered. Thank god uhmmm alah.They're no where near being Islamist; barely 12% even favour the idea of Sharia Law over the current government system.
I don't think joining the EU is even that popular these days, turkey will not care that much.
Don't see the EU having a bright future with big players like the UK leaving..
Yep. Things have never been better economically for the Turks since the AKP ruled.
Moreover, they were actually trying to fight the military. There were people trying to ram the military with a bus and everything. And as you can see now, with the torture, beatings, and the footage of people attacking the military tanks, some of it was in defense at least. It's definitely not straightforward.What do you expect? They are trained to kill.
The one who tells barehanded people to go against tanks is responsible. I don't remember anyone was killed until Erdogan motivated people to attack army. And then you expect soldiers surrounded by mobs to act rationally? Sure. Power hungry ISIS supporting as*hole will bring whole region to catastrophe.
Your point?Oh, only 12% are in favor of minorities and infidels being murdered. Thank god uhmmm alah.
/s
No need to move the goalposts when one of them is the acknowledgment of the armenian genocide.Yeah, they're never getting in. The EU will continue to move the goalposts to prevent it.
I don't think joining the EU is even that popular these days, turkey will not care that much.
Don't see the EU having a bright future with big players like the UK leaving..
I hope asylum is granted. Otherwise I fear for the fate of these soldiers.@AFP
#BREAKING Turkish military helicopter lands in Greece, 8 request asylum: Greek police
/this pic is being circulated with the news:
Looks like a Black Hawk.
But in other instances the military has shown gross disregard for their compatriots.
Stuff like this is why they won't be a member for decades.Look at some of the events that happened in the last 2-3 years..
Erdogan election night fraud
Total control of media - state runned tv
Gezi park Protests
Suicide bombings
Downing of Russian aircraft
Incursion within Iraq
Military coup
Calling for government institutions to be cleansed
Now bringing back the death penalty and rumors of Beheading
All happened in a nato member state that's currently in the process of joining the EU. How utterly fucked is Turkey?
Looks like it was all status updates like: "we're taking TRT" and "there are police at the bridge but haven't made a move" etcAllegedly this is a whatsapp group of (some of) the plotters: https://mobile.twitter.com/CAPAMAG/status/754231091733618688/video/1
Can someone summarize what they were posting?
Allahu akbar.you utter traitor all I can say.
That helicopter shooting on people in the square was horrendous and unjustifiable. That was just straight f*cked up.
But we can't expect no one getting hurt when people surround 50 ton killing machine. That's just catastrophe waiting to happen.
Turkey was doing great a few years ago, tourism also flourished.
But since Erdogan its like they are being warped back at least 50 years.
I hope asylum is granted. Otherwise I fear for the fate of these soldiers.
That helicopter shooting on people in the square was horrendous and unjustifiable. That was just straight f*cked up.
But we can't expect no one getting hurt when people surround 50 ton killing machine. That's just catastrophe waiting to happen.
Looks like it was all status updates like: "we're taking TRT" and "there are police at the bridge but haven't made a move" etc
They're no where near being Islamist; barely 12% even favour the idea of Sharia Law over the current government system.
When did that happen, the chopper firing at civilians I mean?