Not surprising to try and beat the soldiers to a pulp? Or behead them and smash in their heads as in other reports? Are we back in the middle ages?
To think that these people truly think they could/should be part of the EU...
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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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Not surprising to try and beat the soldiers to a pulp? Or behead them and smash in their heads as in other reports? Are we back in the middle ages?
To think that these people truly think they could/should be part of the EU...
ClosingADoor
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A country can leave, but I don't think there is a process for the others to remove a country.
GoldenEye 007
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Yeah there can be no doubt or defense that this is a clear path to dictatorship.
DXB-KNIGHT
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To show how ridiculous it comes combining Religion with politics the following Arabic video shows an Qatari/ex Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood cleric claiming
that Allah and arc Angel Gabriel is supporting Erdogan.
that Allah and arc Angel Gabriel is supporting Erdogan.
Yeah seen a few video where they surrender and people beat them til their eyes pop out. And you wonder why people are dying. Unless the police protects them in that area the civilians will kill them.
If US don't give them Gulen guy don't that statement they just made, America their enemies? Seeing as they are "protecting" him?
Kiraly
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LET EM TRY WE WILL BOMB EM TO OBLIVIOM USA USA USA
iceatcs
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First bit is politics.
Justice is a different world to Politics. So the clerics can do the job under sharia law.
His Majesty
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Hope this does not count for GAF or Mr. Sumal will turn us all in.
That's what fanatics do sadly...
Chinese Cartoons
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Sharia law will never work in turkey sorry we have our own cherry picked version of Islam.
This is not the time.
ClosingADoor
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The US and Turkey are in the same alliance. They have no reason at the moment to break that. Any statements about this are just for show.
It would not make America their enemy. It would create a diplomatic problem, but both can continue working together in other areas just fine.
ferrasvansen
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NyMartin90
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Via BBC
US: No request to extradite alleged coup plotter Gulen
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08:54
US Secretary of State John Kerry has asked Turkey to hand over any evidence it has against exiled Islamic cleric Fethullah Gulen, who the Turkish government has indirectly accused of being behind the coup. Mr Gulen lives in self-imposed exile in the United States.
Mr Kerry, speaking in Luxembourg, says the US has not received any request to extradite the cleric.
In a statement, Mr Gulen rejected any suggestion he had links to the events, saying he condemned "in the strongest terms, the attempted military coup in Turkey".
US: No request to extradite alleged coup plotter Gulen
Posted at
08:54
US Secretary of State John Kerry has asked Turkey to hand over any evidence it has against exiled Islamic cleric Fethullah Gulen, who the Turkish government has indirectly accused of being behind the coup. Mr Gulen lives in self-imposed exile in the United States.
Mr Kerry, speaking in Luxembourg, says the US has not received any request to extradite the cleric.
In a statement, Mr Gulen rejected any suggestion he had links to the events, saying he condemned "in the strongest terms, the attempted military coup in Turkey".
TheLostBigBoss
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Just woke up
So the US is now asking for official proof of the coup being staged by outside actors?
Erdogan completely dismantling the judicial system?
ORDER IS RESTORED
So the US is now asking for official proof of the coup being staged by outside actors?
Erdogan completely dismantling the judicial system?
ORDER IS RESTORED
Mr. Giggles
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Have there been any social media tweets or statements made by Turks in support of the coup?
Turkish Air Force is also stationed there and word goes around, that Jets were supplied with fuel midair by Tankers (Turkish) from there.
https://twitter.com/ziya_meral/status/754258886593568768
ClosingADoor
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No, he is not going to attack US troops or other countries' troops there. There are probably Turkish Air Force soldiers there that supported the coup they want to arrest. Other soldiers will stand by and do nothing, since it is an internal matter for now. It will be tense, but nobody is stupid enough to get into a firefight.
ferrasvansen
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RumblingRosco
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There are nukes housed in Turkey, correct? Who actually oversees them? NATO forces?
blu
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No sane European wants Erdogan's Turkey in the EU. Brexiters' reaction to that leaflet would be the same of somebody who controls a bridge, and sees an antagonist approaching the bridge, and instead of taking a stance, goes 'fuck that, I don't want to control that bridge anymore', packs and leaves. To a house next to the bridge.
Hey brexiters, guess what sits between you and those things you want to distance yourselves from. /offtopic
They're not going to attack American soldiers. That would be absolute insanity.
ClosingADoor
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The US has nukes in Turkey through a NATO program. They are protected by US soldiers.
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THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
aygomyownroad
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People saying if you have half a brain you should leave now, and go where? Its their country as well.
Its a terrible situation only going to get worse but people shouldn't feel the need to leave.
Its a terrible situation only going to get worse but people shouldn't feel the need to leave.
His Majesty
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Russia has expressed concerns about Russian nationals in Turkey but nothing more afaik.
NyMartin90
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I'd like to know this as well, the closing of the Bospous Strait is historically seen as economic warfare on the Russian economy and I'm sure Putin is mad they closed it this morning
Mr. Giggles
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This is what has boggled my mind, nato and the U.S. Are against the coup?
Even the guy erdogan is pinning this on said he was against the coup..... Let me grab the bbc link were I read that
Edit;
Near the bottom of the article
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36814044
ferrasvansen
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I know they won't target them, but what happens if while targeting the rebels, rounds go astray, jeez crazy times.
Ragnar Blackmane
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That twitter guy has no source.
I don't doubt the planes got refuelled in the air, after all there must have been a coup controlled airfield or two to get their fighters in the air in the first place.
ClosingADoor
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He is not crazy. He knows what he is doing. He is just a disgusting human being.
Of course the US and NATO voiced they are against the coup. You can not come out and publicly support a coup of an ally. Certainly not when the situation is still unclear. Had they voiced support yesterday, it would have been a major problem today now the coup has failed.
GoldenEye 007
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Seeds are being planted for a dictatorship.
hobblygobbly
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Yeah they have said something similar but who knows what "accordance with the constitution" means, could mean in regards to the coup being part of the constitution.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36812863
If you're not grasping where this is going I don't know what to tell you.
Turkey is very possibly at a point of no return. If you value having a life in a democratic country they should slowly but surely plan on having a way out.
I have family in Turkey, we are thinking of getting my nephews and nieces to study abroad instead of inside of Turkey. Secure them a place in Europe for a better live.
Mr. Giggles
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With all due respect, fleeing will only leave a vacuum and/or echo chamber for erdogan a rhetoric to grow.
the opposition needs to rally and speak out not flee imo
This is the exact reason political leaders of all opposition partys declared support for "democracy". It was to cover their asses. People pointing at how low the approval was for a coup are delusional if they think people didn't cover their asses for the inevitable aftermath.
Reckheim
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Isn't the military the one that upholds the constitution in Turkey?
DudeWithNoName
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Rally and speak out? Are you serious?
Some people in this thread need to calm down. Turkey is not going to attack the US, Greece or any other country now. Erdogan is an asshole but not a comic super-villain.
Worst case scenario I can imagine is a former Yugoslavia conflict, Serbia vs. Kosovo situation where NATO and the world won't intervene while Erdogan pursues ethnic cleansing and turning Turkey into a full-blown authocratic islamic state.
Worst case scenario I can imagine is a former Yugoslavia conflict, Serbia vs. Kosovo situation where NATO and the world won't intervene while Erdogan pursues ethnic cleansing and turning Turkey into a full-blown authocratic islamic state.
Par for the course. Bloody beatdowns of student protests a few years ago. Muzzling press. And so forth.
GoldenEye 007
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Yes. It's a standard statement of support that covers their asses. Any diplomat would say the same thing. See: Estonia and the US.
Mr. Giggles
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Is that not a valid suggestion?
Ragnar Blackmane
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Do you have a Turkish twitter account? If you do you can try that now and see what happens.
It won't help, the police will beat them to death if necessary (if they rally on the streets that is)
fabricated backlash
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Yeah because that is still an option in Erdoganistan.
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