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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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Good luck Germany :x
TheRealTalker
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnkCVMuWAAApQPB.jpg:large
and even when you watch the video the civilian are running too him after the car hit him and ran
That is clearly not the same thing. Are you even listening to the civilians? They say "We killed four, this is going to be the fifth, we are going to kill you, you will pay for this" Also look at the barrier by the road in the picture. It's clearly a different scenario. That's not the same situation in the pic you linked. It's clearly different. The guy filming it also says "let me hit him too, it will make me feel better" at the end. They also kick the soldier near the beginning of the video.
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TheRealTalker
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http://www.cnnturk.com/2006/turkiye...rildi.bir.sehit.uc.yarali/190278.0/index.html
3 got injured one got killed after Military vehicle overturned
Clearly they were speaking of the occupants of the car that hit the soldier. Must have been a monster truck seeing as it hit no other part of his body besides his head, and it must have been a love tap because his head isn't mush either.
Dubbedinenglish
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Gulen is obviously everyone
TheLostBigBoss
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yea I hate him because he's a muslim, not because he just used a coup to dismantle the judicial system and erode the government constitution.
u got me
Ok, but do you speak Turkish? The guy filming the video is very clearly talking about killing the soldier on the ground. I mean come on. You are blatantly wrong.
Also here's a comparison pic for you (NSFL obviously). Different location, different time of day/light, different people around, different body type of soldier.
http://i.imgur.com/S0Z9HS5.png
edit: sorry for briefly using IMG tag instead of URL, fixed
Let me transcribe the video for you:
We killed four of them, time for the fifth. Dog.
Son of a bitch!
You will pay for this, die
*Cop fires warning shot*
Let me hit once for god's sake, you killed my brothers
Son of a bitch
The event you linked is in Eastern Turkey, this is VERY OBVIOUSLY the bosphorus bridge in istanbul. There is no sea in eastern Turkey. Just give up.
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I'm not clicking but to let you know I didn't see it at all so you should be good
TheRealTalker
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it is the same dude
shirt opened up he was just dragged further down
maybe these dudes were talking about how the vehicle got turned over
maybe they were involved in it
I am not the only one debunking this
regardless if they killed him or not it IS FROM 2006 and not 2016
okay you now what maybe I am wrong
but he wasn't beheaded the dudes head is still intact with his body
there was another image of people carry them away....
TheRealTalker
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same bridge and the dude was carried away by a mob turned out to be people bringing him to an ambulance
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/754358635841683456
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CngFLFFWIAEmn1t.jpg
there were likely some civilians who beat him before the said event though
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/754358635841683456
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CngFLFFWIAEmn1t.jpg
there were likely some civilians who beat him before the said event though
Yeah the beheading rumor was wrong, they just beat them to a pulp and killed 4 others (apparently not seen in any video). Shameful on both sides, really. In the end the common folk and soldiers lose out whereas politicians manipulating the events win.
TheRealTalker
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Indeed some civilians went bonkers and we all should condemn that
the same bridge also had people firing at civilians last I recall too
if those soldiers were involved idk
there is a chance they were tossed into the post fury fray
Edit: Then those red crescent ambulance people came and broke it up
orthodoxy1095
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What a crock of goddamn shit.
hydragonwarrior
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Gulen should just put out a "Wanted Dead or Dead" poster instead.
orthodoxy1095
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Throw. Them. Out.
Ros8105
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There are lot of these fuckers over here now. Seems like a problem to me.
orthodoxy1095
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At the very least, if these lunatic fascists can't be thrown out, they need to all be jailed and charged until their wallets bleed.
Integration is a important part of taking people into your society and most of Europe fails at that which makes these small isolated communities.
If they ain't citizen send them back to Turkey where they can fight for their dear glorious leader and if they are citizens put them behind bars like any other criminal.
orthodoxy1095
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How do we do a better job at integrating the kind of person who loves Erdogan?
Integration is a important part of taking people into your society and most of Europe fails at that which makes these small isolated communities.
That's not snark, that's a genuine query. It seems a difficult task.
The problem seems to be that these communities have existed for years and decades where they've had the ability to flourish the nonsense from back home without having to integrate into the country's society.
I'm not sure how you can fix that now.
It's a complex issue but looking from the outside in that's what it seems like is the root of the problem.
ClosingADoor
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How do you force someone to integrate if they don't want to. It's proven to be impossible until now.
Well if they don't want to integrate into the society and be a productive member of the society like everyone else why are they allowed to be there in the first place?
moniker
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You can't.
Ros8105
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What the fuuuuck. Is this real?They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
Better twist their minds of New Turkeys glorious leader Kim Erdogan!They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
This is classic, one of the worst forms of torture.
L0st Id3ntity
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Lol that can't be real.
Funyarinpa
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I've been called a traitor in this very thread for expressing my fear that Erdoğan's mobs will gain power in this country, and yet this is somehow still the most bafflingly idiotic and infuriating post ITT I've read so far.
Fuck you. If you honestly dare defend Erdoğan by saying criticism of him is Islamophobia or prejudice or a lack of understanding of basic democracy, FUCK YOU.
I've lived in this country ever since Erdoğan came into power (Born 1999 and raised in Turkey). Were you here when Erdoğan deemed men and women were unequal because you couldn't make a woman work in a field as long as a man? Were you here when he threatened the Gezi protesters by saying he'd let his "50%" (his voter base then of the Turkish population) on them? Were you here when government officials forcibly shut down an anti-government newspaper building and turned it into an Erdoğan propaganda machine overnight? Were you here when Erdoğan personally had a doctor jailed for two fucking years for posting a picture comparing Erdoğan and Gollum on Facebook? You were not. You were fucking not, and sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, fuck you for trying to validate Erdoğan's tyranny. I'd dissect your post further, but if you accuse people of Islamophobia based on criticism of a person who's probably in the running for being the most understandable reason why people hate the Islamic world, you're not worth talking to. You haven't the slightest fucking clue of the struggle and oppression in Turkey you're trying to invalidate.
Fuck you.
NyMartin90
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They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
Re-Education has begun!
Instructor: "Who's the founder of Turkey?"
Prisoners: "Ataturk"
Gunshot goes off
Instructor: "Lets try that again. Who's the founder of Turkey?"
Prisoners: "Erdogan"
Instructor: "Very good"
Octavianus
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They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
"It's ok though, he was fairly elected!"
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They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
They should put a quote above the picture from Obama: respect the democratically elected government.
TheSecondSpitter
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Cognitive dissonance in action.
petran79
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the funny thing is that immigrants in Germany who return to their respective countries, get even worse than the natives when it comes to adapting the dominant mentality and anomy
Theonik
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A lot of those people are second generation migrants which were there before erdogan.
It's a hard question to be sure. Growing up in a foreign country makes them latch to their Turkish identity quite strongly which leads to this.
This isn't necessarily something someone maliciously instilled in them. Such things also intensify as these groups become marginalised and then form their own communities. They never feel part of local society.
e: It's basically a form of identity complex. They feel they have something to prove. You sometimes notice the opposite in some other second generation migrants where they try their hardest to integrate sometimes taking local values to extremes.
They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
I feel like Erdogan is losing it.
They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
This a guy is a fucking megalomaniac. Pure lunacy.
orthodoxy1095
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If this is real, holy shit, the comparisons to people like Stalin and Hitler wouldn't be as hyberbolic as people said.They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
That's the thing.
What's really mind boggling is that some of these Erdogan supporters outside of Turkey are actually like second and third generation. How the hell do you integrate them now?
Yep. Absolutely.
Catatafish
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Stay classy my friend.
orthodoxy1095
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You're a real piece of work.
Sure he's being a bit emotional which is understandable, but you seem to have some weird tendencies yourself with the level of love you have exhibited for Erdogan in this whole thread.
Not sure, but why would you stay in a country you don't feel a part of but you don't go back to the country you are willing to fight over?If this is real, holy shit, the comparisons to people like Stalin and Hitler wouldn't be as hyberbolic as people said.
That's the thing.
What's really mind boggling is that some of these Erdogan supporters outside of Turkey are actually like second and third generation. How the hell do you integrate them now?
Yep. Absolutely.
Makes little sense.
Keep writing it off like nothing. Must be glorious.
orthodoxy1095
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Maybe for economic/career opportunities that they don't have in their own country? I dunno.
Yeah but if that's the reason don't that mean they are chanting for worse living conditions and work?
If everything is so amazing here when it comes to jobs and what not, would you not chant for that country instead?
Stop generalizing.
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