Thank you. Fuck the people who still have the nerve to defend this guy.
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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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Thank you. Fuck the people who still have the nerve to defend this guy.
Theonik
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Their parents tend to be better integrated and moderate. This is a second generation identity problem more than anything. They lack the same sense of purpose their parents had when they immigrated for a better standard of living or whatever it was.
Sorry but that is ridiculous and sounds like the same tactics right-wing people suggest.
Why don't you feel the duty to help people forward and grow progressive movements?
At least 40% of Turkey's voters are secular and without counting the fascists that is something like 30%+ left-wing/progressive voters. More than enough to ensure a realistic possibility of a progressive Turkey.
This is literally something uncle Stalin did with Gulag prisoners, welp.They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
orthodoxy1095
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NyMartin90
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Security Services Quash Armenia Coup Rumours
http://news.sky.com/story/security-services-quash-armenia-coup-rumours-10504182
A group of armed men have taken control of a police station in Armenia's capital Yerevan, prompting rumours to spread on social media that a coup is under way against the government.
One officer has been killed and two people have been wounded during the takeover.
Security services are negotiating with the men who have taken hostages and reportedly demanded the release of opposition leader and military commander Jirair Sefilian who was arrested in June while campaigning for regime change.
http://news.sky.com/story/security-services-quash-armenia-coup-rumours-10504182
A group of armed men have taken control of a police station in Armenia's capital Yerevan, prompting rumours to spread on social media that a coup is under way against the government.
One officer has been killed and two people have been wounded during the takeover.
Security services are negotiating with the men who have taken hostages and reportedly demanded the release of opposition leader and military commander Jirair Sefilian who was arrested in June while campaigning for regime change.
Catatafish
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Sure I understand his immaturity.
I am not sure about weird tendencies though, what makes my tenfencies so weird in your opinion. The AKP and Erdoğan are popular in Turkey. Do you think the majority of Turkish people are brainwashed fools with no sense of reality. Having an opposing arguments that tries to make sense of Turkish politics makes you look weird now?
From what you read on GAF it seems that Turkey is a really fucked up place with a lot of people presenting their reasoning as to why it's fucked up and it should be saved before things gets out of hand and turns into a fascist state. The truth is simply not the case, go visit turkey and interact with all people from different shades of society, you will not get the feeling that turkey is on the brink of collapse.
The coup showed how resilient and witty the turkish people are, and how they ended the coup in few hours without firing a single bullet, Despite having military forces killing some civilians. If it was a really fucked up place, then the outcome would have been the complete opposite.
sechsterangriff
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They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
Any reasonable Turkish citizen who sees this sort of thing must be terrified for their future and I very much doubt this will sit well with the rest of the armed forces, pro-coup or not.
TheRealTalker
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this thread is filled with uber Erdogan fans and uber anti Erdogan fans
it is like a contest of some sort
it is like a contest of some sort
orthodoxy1095
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Sounds like an excuse to complete the Armenian Genocide.
NyMartin90
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Saudi Newspaper Al Watan
https://twitter.com/BazziNYU/status/754624632393723904/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
https://twitter.com/BazziNYU/status/754624632393723904/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Or maybe Erdogan forces extremes.
His Majesty
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They've gone completely nuts over there. Captured soldiers are forced to look at Erdogan for hours:
this is approaching cartoon villain levels
TheRealTalker
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lol Erdogan isn't some shiny star and he has some true crazy ego problems
he is also bad at certain freedoms, a control freak now paranoid and the dude acts like a maniac at times to reassure his base
but some anti Erdogan posts here have jumped the shark to insanity
NyMartin90
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no Gulenists?
TheSecondSpitter
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I'm not exactly sure how you can take the middle ground on Erdogan given what we've witnessed over the last couple of days.
The middle ground is purely the diplomatic approach and there's no need for diplomacy here.
Take a look at the photo above your post and ask yourself who has jumped the shark?
His Majesty
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Damn these Gulenists are everywhere! Guess Erdogan has no choice now but to invade and annex Armenia.
Just posting to say, you literally just described every thread on NeoGAF.
If anything we've seen a rabid blood thirsty mob beating and hacking soldiers to minced meat. Sure they didn't need to fire a single bullet...
TheRealTalker
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last couple of days of arrests
some people were jumping on conspiracy theories and beheading lies not to long ago
we can't really know what is going on if we just see some crazy theory debates back and forth with some of these posts rather then trying to verify anything
I mean I am trying to find out what is going on but we got pages of pages of Erdogan wanking and anti Erdogan wanking
pretty much
A political cartoon?
there are a ton of Saudi news cartoonist
am I suppose to debate about cartoons now
Catatafish
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"Rabid blood thirsty mob", "hacking soldiers to minced meat". Did not you see all the unarmed civilian bodies that were killed by army helicopters and tanks, did you not see the videos of all the civilians being shot at on the bridge. It seems that we are seeing two different realities, and then I am accused of being delusional.
TheRealTalker
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no one hacked anybody look at the last page
jm89
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When you have soldiers running people over with tanks and mowing them down from military aircraft this type of response is expected.
Shall I post all the pictures and videos here at once for you? It'll take me some time to collect...but it won't open your eyes anyway...
What's immature is you writing off what happens to everyone who disagrees with glorious leader.
And the fact is you HAD to fire bullets during the coup. Police had to shoot in the air to try and stop the angry bloodthirsty mobs from beating the soldiers to death, many of whom looked better off getting a bullet considering their heads was so badly beating you couldn't even see their facial features.
We even get to see how the people supporting this guy act towards minority's in and outside Turkey.
The coup was 2000 soldiers who had no idea what they did, and most of those put their guns down instead of opening fire and got killed and a result due to the angry mob.
Then you got the removal of the judicial system, the military and cleansing of everything else that holds power.
It really is fucked up.
TheRealTalker
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it is not like the soldiers cared about minorities either
most of these guys are from the force that shell the kurds
Catatafish
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Yes do post pictures of all the bodies that were killed by assulat helicopters, tanks, and assulat rifles. Please go ahead...
Go to China or Russia and talk to the people on the street. Those countries aren't close to a collapse either. Yet there's no opposition or rule of law when it comes to political opposition.
And Erdogan is hurting Turkey's economy. The effects on tourism are devastating already. And internationally, both politicians and people are laughing about Erdogan (just citing the UK's foreign minister, "goat fucker").
While some of them might not be saints it's stupid to act like everyone was the great evil and deserved what happen and is happening to them.
If you act like that's ok you are no better than them.
TheRealTalker
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sure and if you run around acting all Erdogan supporters are the devil (usually with things that got debunked) then the same goes both ways
Are there actuallyany? So far this thread and others I know are full of confirmed videos and pictures of the mob beating and torturing the soldiers, but I have not seen one single video or image of a soldier doing the same to civilians. What I have seen was videos of soldiers firing warning shots over the heads of pro Erdogan protesters who then got back up immediately closing in further on the soldiers and attacking them first. Not the other way around.
A major problem is that for us non-Turks, we see the people in our countries who protest for Erdogan here and assume the ones in Turkey are about the same. While they aren't the devil, it's hard to describe them as particularly smart. Most of them didn't get very far in terms of education.
Catatafish
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The political scene in Turkey is now where close to the ones in China and Russia. And who cares if politicians laugh at Erdogan. People laugh at other politicians all the time. I really do miss Bush, but it seems Trump will be even better who cares.
What is done to political opposition seems pretty similar...
TheRealTalker
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again that is broad generalization
insulting a base with claims of lack of intellect
news flash people who are even smart do poor decisions
and things are not black and white in this world
your path will likely lead to dehumanizing people
like some minorities who cheer Assad since their groups are fine
Catatafish
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To you maybe, but in reality it's not.
NyMartin90
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https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/754730741033041924
Turkish forces are searching Marmaris Forest for 40 soldiers who attacked Erdogan's hotel.
Turkish forces are searching Marmaris Forest for 40 soldiers who attacked Erdogan's hotel.
Either gets to show how strong he is by getting the U.S to extradite him, or gets to blame the U.S if he isn't.
Everyone that can oppose Erdogan is already gone so it doesn't matter, he can come up with a new boogeyman whenever he wants.
Kenzodielocke
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He got his people to hate him, so getting him would make him even more powerful. And hey, you can always find new boogeymen.
AmaterasuOni
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Nothing. Turkey is part of NATO. That's what up. NATO including a rogue state with a dictator.
Orniletter
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Literally Reichstags fire 2.0
I hope they do something about the absolute bottom-feeder Erdogan-supporters we have in germany.
Shit like this and the armenian genocide protests should absolutely not be tolerated here.
NyMartin90
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Catatafish
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Yes there a lot of casualties dude. Alot of people have been killed. Some funerals were held yesterday and more will be held in the coming days.
jm89
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Google is your friend it is not that hard to find. Perhaps you should not restrict your self to threads/websites that follow the type of narrative you like?
DXB-KNIGHT
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BTW the Erdogan mindless love is not just in Turkey, the Muslim Brotherhood Arabs are celebrating the failure of the "coup"
Sad Affleck
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Is losing it? He has already lost it.
Regginator
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I doubt the order comes from Erdogan directly, are you guys fucking serious?? "Hey, subordinates. Let's punish the coup attempters. Instead of jailing them or doing whatever, we'll have them stare at my picture. Awesome, right??"
At the moment it seems they're at the mercy of the Turkish police.
Understandable. The Muslim Brotherhood was decimated by the Egyptian Coup. They probably wished that all coups fail.
Seems like they all tripped and fell in the stairs to make that picture.
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