They also need to think of their family though. Who can guarantee for their safety when there's a Gulenist in their family?
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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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They also need to think of their family though. Who can guarantee for their safety when there's a Gulenist in their family?
Norwegian_Imposter
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Erdogan's attempt to stop the brain drain
Imp the Dimp
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How could the outcome of a coup have been worse than this shitfest
Thing is, his behavior here is nothing new. He's been doing similar things for over a decade now. Democracy doesn't mean anything when votes are rigged, the media is under near-complete control and journalists and public figures who speak against him are imprisoned. You can't run an election under those circumstances and claim to be democratically elected.
And because of that he can disrespect the rule of law? Depose and arrest who ever he pleases? Those soliders did they face charges yet, or are properly detain? Can he purge people out of offices just because they are not from his party?
(I'm not even discussing the irregularities on the elections)
Did you miss the "/s"? I agree with you.
blu
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Wait, what are you implying here?! He was democratically elected. Also, we should mind our own business.
/posts from a few pages ago.
(in case it's not clear what I'm saying, an EU-neighbor country going full 3rd Reich is apparently par for the course)
I did not I just needed to vent
Funky Papa
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Previous coups in Turkey have resulted in wholesale prosecution and outright massacres with hundreds of victims, so yeah, there's a chance that things could have gone pretty damn bad. Specially given that Erdogan and his supporters wouldn't go down without a fight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Turkish_coup_d'état
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_alleged_Turkish_military_coup
The real question is what the hell Erdogan is going to do now. I sure hope he doesn't escalate things further, although one could wonder if he hasn't already inflicted some irreversible damage with the current purge. I can imagine some part of the population being way more than just angry.
Yeah but last time they had a big protest against anything related to Erdogan they just shot them didn't they?
Soooo
GasProblem
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Any news about that 'important announcement' Erdogan was going to give today?
tbh I don't recall any such event - they used tear gas and water cannons in the Gezi park protest
I know, I'm just saying this running gag isn't helpful.
Really? A power vacuum could have meant civil war and many other things. From our perspective this outcome is the lesser of two evils, which doesn't make the recent developments any less terrible.
Ragnar Blackmane
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Any bets on declaration of martial law or something like that? Turbo reinstatement of the death penalty in mere hours Putin parliament style? Certain opposition parties being made illegal and declared terrorists (*cough* Kurds *cough cough*)?
blu
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all I guess
Oh don't get me wrong, Erodgan's view of "democracy" has nothing to do with real democracy. He's been planning his civil coup for many years and this was the last trigger to finish it. But he - as unbelievable as I find it - has many supporters. Call them brainwashed, call them Erdogoons but in the end they support him, as unfortunate as that is. If he hadn't had them the coup would have played out differently.
Ether_Snake
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I think Turkey will now become an Iranian-like theocracy. And I bet they will invade Syria before the end of the year. Just need an excuse.
Dismissing his supporters as brainwashed and/or idiots is very simplistic and unreasonable. To many he is also someone that modernized the country and brought enormous economic growth.
Funky Papa
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Why the hell would they do that.
Definitely. He put Turkey on the map. It's not surprising he's so beloved especially in more rural areas of the country.
I mean, just look at the development of the GDP of Turkey.
Ether_Snake
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Why not? They wouldn't invade the whole country, just the Kurd parts. In this kind of situation a military campaign is always needed.
Look at Turkish Airlines. I'm sure tons of people in Turkey are proud of it and thank Erdogan for putting Turkey as a power on the map. Question is when does this appreciation of a politician turn into something more dangerous.
People on here get blinded by the pictures of Erdogan supporters shouting and screaming on TV. But there's also the part of the country that knows better than to speak up right now and is just trying to adjust to what is happening or working on their exit plan.
Just as a show of strength?
I know, and in other countries that would have been the end of the government, but they didn't fire live rounds into the crowd. That could very easily lead to a Syria 2.0 scenario and a complete breakdown of international relationships
though I think it should also be mentioned that all bets are off if you happen to be Kurdish, sadly
Orniletter
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Yeah. Where is Regginator now ? Wonder what they think.
MMaRsu
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Wow wtf
I'd argue that a civil war would be worse than this.
The moment the coup attempt began, it was a lose lose situation
Apparently he's meeting with the national security council today, in which "important decisions" will be made. Don't know when they're meeting though.
TheOfficeMut
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I hope Erdogan is dealt a swift reprisal, that mother fucker
Nikodemos
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That "important decision" most likely being the politically sanctioned assassination of prominent coup supporters.
DXB-KNIGHT
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Maybe for the first one
No for the second one, Iran and Turkey both hate the Kurds and have business together.
So Turkey won't invade Syria or harm Assad just not to piss of Iran or Russia again
Ragnar Blackmane
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Well, considering where the Turkish anti-terrorism coordinator against ISIS ended up (found in the gutter with his hands tied behind his back, shot in the neck), I wouldn't be surprised really.
Nikodemos
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()_() What?!? When?
Few days ago I believe it was
Nikodemos
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Damn Gulenists. They're everywhere!
Man, I hope C.M. Kosemen is safe. I hope he pulls a runner and leaves while he still can.
orthodoxy1095
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FFS.
MMaRsu
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And even an erdogan stan defending it on twitter
Another one bites the dust - Erdogan theme song
We are waiting THE announcement after National Security Council. Erdogan is about to make a HUGE announcement after the meeting. This could be declaration of state of emergency, professional army instead of obligatory one, referendum for presidency. We will see in an hour or so.
Isn't whatsapp using end to end encryption?
Probably forcing them to open the app
Don't need to break encryption when you can break bones.
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