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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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Maybe they were turkish academics
How many dozens of times has this gif been posted in this thread so far?
I can't imagine a worse scenario for Turkey than what is happening right now.
Ragnar Blackmane
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Because the store is owned by J̶e̶w̶s̶ Alevi.Sölf;210697257 said:
Mr. Giggles
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Stans?
Coriolanus
Banned
hrm
Guardian said:
so they've felt sidelined since before they were born? Can't imagine that there are a whole lotta nonagenarians out there o_ô
guess its the same as white people missing the 50's in the US.
fabricated backlash
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Look at those people. Look in their faces: This is what the lowest scum of this earth looks like. A flock or idiots driven by their lowest instincts and hatred.
Deplorable.
Mr. Giggles
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Lol erdogoons, cute
Stäns*
NyMartin90
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This is the lawlessness Erdogan wants, I went to Turkey in February. The religious groups have resorted to this and nothing is happening. I honestly can't tell whether I'm looking at an attack on a minority bookstore in Turkey or Pakistan.
people who knew nothing about Turkey claimed it was perfectly normal for Turks to scream Allahu Akbar during the coup. Saying it's basically a word that is used daily by people and it doesn't reflect any kind of extremist tendencies..
They are wrong.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
İn an ironic turn of events, the jailed generals are replaced by the generals who were jailed in 2012 because of the Sledgehammer/ Ergenekon case. Back then Erdoğan and Gülen were still buddy buddy and tried to purge the military of hardcore Kemalists. Some of them were in jail for over 3 years before they got released in 2015 and lo behold now they are reinstated again.
Ragnar Blackmane
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Them being on route to Egypt would also explain why there haven't been any news on the fleet assets since Sunday.
It will not end well.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
In the context of Turkey, it may be weird.
I've traveled in the Middle East and heard it said as casually as an "Inshallah."
It is definitely not perfectly normal to hear in the context of a raging mob though. Good sign of extremism.
Just dawned me that the Portuguese language has a "oxalá" word that is used in the same context as "god willingly".
Eh, linguistics. Sorry for the off-topic.
Erdogan declaring that Turkey is now the Turkish Caliphate, enforcing religious laws and inviting all Muslims who want to live their religion to come to Turkey.
Now that could be worse
You have to remember though that almost all of the Middle Eastern countries have Arabic as the official or co-official language. Turkey speaks Turkish.
Inshallah is used pretty commonly in Turkey too. It never went out of use really.
But Allahu Akbar was never in the every day language except for prayer time. Well it wasn't anyway. It is now as it seems, for all the wrong reasons.
sechsterangriff
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Yeap, the Iberian Peninsula has a very rich Arabic heritage. There are many other words of Arabic origin in Portuguese and Spanish.
Really? That's, strange.
I guess Erdogan really does stage a coup for whatever enemy du jour he hates this time.
I wonder how those generals are feeling now.
There are many southern Portuguese and Spanish places started with Al-something. Southern Spain still has a lot of Arabic architecture. And it's quite beautiful.
Saddens me that the world is growing into a divisive state
Lol, ffs
Probably waiting for some "good" or slightly not insane and horrible to occur.
Erdogan himself was in jail too. Turkey, a land of opportunities.
TheRealTalker
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Now they are releasing some people
I wonder if they will release more people
blu
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"We see him as one of us." .. must be another presidential palace owner in the crowd.
Swearing Loyalty to Erdogan.
NyMartin90
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>.< is it full of civilians too?
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Of course they will. Most people dismissed will be rehired, and most arrested will be released. The arrests and dismissals are mainly to send a message and put in place an apparatus. There is no second-coup risk. Now people are going to tow the line, doesn't matter if they were guilty or not. You'll probably see a massive rise in women wearing veils too, just because they'll prefer not to take risks.
NyMartin90
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This is going to be bad for Turco-Greek relations if they seek asylum there among the other 8 helicopter soldiers, who are undergoing trial in Greece.
German footballer Gomez is leaving Turkey because of the political climate.
http://m.heute.de/ZDF/zdfportal/xml/object/44477008
I'm pretty confident that the majority of the coup soldiers killed had nothing to do with the civilian deaths. Unless of course you want to argue that the airforce crew and that one tank crew represent every single ground soldier.
NyMartin90
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Can anyone who knows Turkish confirm if these subtitles are correct?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p89ZjCI9ZJ0
This is a video put out by TRT Turk on Fethullah Gulen's sermons, but I feel they may have changed the subtitles to support the "Gulenist Takeover" narrative.
Everything I've read about Hizmet claimed that they are mostly a secular/ academic/ interfaith Islamic movement, this seems to go against that and seems like a piece of Erdogan propaganda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p89ZjCI9ZJ0
This is a video put out by TRT Turk on Fethullah Gulen's sermons, but I feel they may have changed the subtitles to support the "Gulenist Takeover" narrative.
Everything I've read about Hizmet claimed that they are mostly a secular/ academic/ interfaith Islamic movement, this seems to go against that and seems like a piece of Erdogan propaganda.
Frustrated_me
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Fun fact time.
I was actually approached by the Gulun movement some 5 years ago. They had just opened up a private school in the city and were looking for professionals to teach young students. Never once did I feel I was being forced into something I did not want or some sort of malicious activity. The same school went on to win countless academic awards later. I heard nothing but good things from the school from an academic perspective.
I refused their proposal, I'm way too secular in nature to join anything that involves an ounce of religion.
I was actually approached by the Gulun movement some 5 years ago. They had just opened up a private school in the city and were looking for professionals to teach young students. Never once did I feel I was being forced into something I did not want or some sort of malicious activity. The same school went on to win countless academic awards later. I heard nothing but good things from the school from an academic perspective.
I refused their proposal, I'm way too secular in nature to join anything that involves an ounce of religion.
Nah, they're a shady organization with people in many higher up positions in Turkey and if not for Erdogsn they would be pulling Turkey to Islamism. Their public brand is pretty strong in the West but they run "youth homes" in Turkey to brainwash poor secular youth by offering them lodging.
They are smart and they appear more modern than your regular Islamist, they believe that in order to further Islam you need to blend in as much as possible by whatever means necessary, including drinking alcohol.
Here's a longer term look at them
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...llah-gulen-cleric-opposition-erdogan-akp.html
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/01/akp-gulen-conflict-guide.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo...st-politically-connected-cleric/#5f34cf5b1f77
Frustrated_me
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Those subtitles are correct.
They are definitely not secular and from what I know their ultimate goal is an Islamic republic.
NyMartin90
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Thanks
Watch them name it something like the Ataturk Brigade. They'll soon be talking about Kemal Ataturk the same way modern US Republicans talk about their founding fathers. "Back when Kemal Ataturk founded this country along Islamic principles..."
DXB-KNIGHT
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Mostly Gulenians
DudeWithNoName
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With a little Kim Jong sprinkled in.
orthodoxy1095
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True, true. Forgot about the Turkish difference.
I'm fairly used to hearing it just said conversationally, but yeah, in Turkey it probably would be weird then.
Stop going to Greece you dunces.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Turkey has hundreds of such groups big and small. They are called "tarikat" or "cemaat". They vary in the degree of fanatism. Hizmet (Gulen's Cemaat) is by far the biggest and most influencial, but how big is difficult to say. That they tried to get their people into high positions is widely known in Turkey and in most part they succeeded. Hence the broad scope of the purge, it litterly could be anyone because they started this infiltration process 40 years ago.
My personal opinion, they are not the kind that the Western world assosiate with religious fanatism. But they are shady as hell and their members have this sect like mentally surrounding them. İt's difficult to explain, kinda like Scientology if i have to compare.
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