TheSecondSpitter
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Did the missing Turkish navy show up (subs, frigates, etc)?
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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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Given the solid performance on the Armenian genocide matter, that'd be par for the course.
DXB-KNIGHT
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A common point among political Islamic theocracies, they hate armys that are built around Nationalism.
That's why during the Muslim Brotherhood reign on Egypt, many Egyptian soldiers started being killed in Senai. Police also started to be targeted.
That's why during the Muslim Brotherhood reign on Egypt, many Egyptian soldiers started being killed in Senai. Police also started to be targeted.
DXB-KNIGHT
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Based on Al Jazera the official channel now for political theocracies, it got delayed.
Not to my knowledge. I'm guessing they are making a run for Egypt whose government was supportive of the "coup".
paperboywriter
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can someone quickly sum up what happend today for me?
TheRealTalker
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some coast guard ships went missing
some people got released
more people got arrested
some investigations has started
some more footage of air strikes on civilians (on the day of the coup) have surfaced
paperboywriter
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thank you.
Ragnar Blackmane
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Soooo, has the coastal guard not been affected by the purge yet and some of them thought they might just as well make a run for it when Greece is a few kilometers away?
Would be ironic if Turkey had lost half it's naval assets by the end of the week.
Would be ironic if Turkey had lost half it's naval assets by the end of the week.
Funky Papa
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They sound like the Islamic version of the Opus Dei, tbh.
paperboywriter
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have people found anything in those wiki leaks emails?
https://wikileaks.org/akp-emails/?q...from=&date_to=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=0#
https://wikileaks.org/akp-emails/?q...from=&date_to=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=0#
Just read that Erdogan is shutting down independent media around the country.
Then I saw the news about him sacking teachers all over the country. That he is ready to reinstate the death penalty and much, much more.
To people who defended this motherfucker during the coup, you still do?
Then I saw the news about him sacking teachers all over the country. That he is ready to reinstate the death penalty and much, much more.
To people who defended this motherfucker during the coup, you still do?
most surely they do, first rule of arguments, never admit you are wrong even when you realize you were wrong
andythinkpad
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I think its closer to the Saddam Hussein coup. Both Stalin and Hitler had stronger ideological component in their dictatorship. Sunni Muslim military takeover usually don't that much religious change.
Erdogan's interview right now is INSANE.
He says the pilot who shot down Russian jet last year may be connected to Gulen.
He tells French FM to mind his own business after he warned about a post-coup crackdown.
He says it would be a "big mistake" by the US to not extradite Gulen.
He says there may have been foreign countries involved in coup attempt.
This is him drawing a line in the sand.
He says the pilot who shot down Russian jet last year may be connected to Gulen.
He tells French FM to mind his own business after he warned about a post-coup crackdown.
He says it would be a "big mistake" by the US to not extradite Gulen.
He says there may have been foreign countries involved in coup attempt.
This is him drawing a line in the sand.
Is there a stream in english?
hobblygobbly
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Erdogan saying that there may have been foreign countries involved in the coup attempt according to Reuter's tweet and that it may not be the end of coup attempts as per Conflict News tweet
He won't last long it seems. They are going to overthrow him. I'm not sure who his advisors are but threatening the US is often not such a great idea.
Russia doesn't have it anymore since 1999, I think. The US is actually the only big western exception I can see on the map.
Bringing back the Death Penalty is definitevly another step away from the West.
Anyway watching what is happening in Turkey right now is really worrying. I really can't see how this won't end in either a dictatur or one day in a civil war.
Nothing shocking or different than before. He is always ballsy against other countries in reality he can't afford to lose support of them. But my guessing is Turkey will side more with Russia from now on.
Frustrated_me
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Can Obama + Europe side with Assad already and start fucking Erdogan up little by little. Erdogan's foreign policy is a disaster, start there.
Reckheim
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them are fighting words.
This seems so off somehow. Specially after he phoned with Putin 2 weeks ago and apologized.
RamzaIsCool
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This nothing extraordinary from what he is spewing these last few days. But you know, imo the biggest treath against his power is a potential collapse of the economy. The hardcore votersbase of the AKP/ Erdoğan always get overrated. İt has always been max 25%, the rest consist of Turks who benefited of the economic growth and are contend with him staying in power even if he is a total shithead. An economic collapse would break that status quo imo, just look what happened in 2009 when Turkey also suffered from the economic crisis. There was a sharp drop in votes. Anyway the Turkish Lira is tanking, the credit rating is downgraded left and right, the Tourism Sector is having it's worsed year in 20 years and there is no confidence of investors whatsoever. İ guess the Turks are going to feel it in their pockets and if that happens İ really wonder if they support dear leader as strong.
TheSecondSpitter
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Not likely.
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That apology seems now like a bit of foreshadowing, doesn't it?
I assumed that it was because of the tourism industry, but he doesn't really give a shit about the tourism industry now, so maybe that was not it in the end?
In the same context, I also saw on the news something about Erdogan trying to get closer ties to Iran and Russia.
democratically elected
Russia in this is very interesting. Putin visited Greece just a few weeks ago. Both nations are Othodox. I saw some commentators saying Greece would be Putin's way back into Europe, but now with this whole Turkey situation who knows what will happen.
Theonik
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He tried to make peace with Israel and Russia just a few weeks ago in an uncharacteristic wider outreach considering how he pissed the later off.
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Russia has closer ties to Greece than it does with Turkey but Russia was using Turkey as a medium for their gas pipeline into Greece/the EU. The sanctions kinda hurt Greece in that respect, but with Turkey's EU ascension gone, that potentially makes Greece a more valuable ally than Turkey. Unless Turkey drops out of NATO in which case Russia is interested in their geostrategic position.
This paranoia is dangerous...
Ragnar Blackmane
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Well, if he manages to purge the entirety of the political system, the education system, the military and the police, I don't see how anyone, even the people, could stop him. It's rather hard to get rid of a dictatorship that controls everything, particularly police and military. It's not like he had any issues with the police shooting protestors in the past, it won't get any better now. He knows the economy will suffer, that's why is doing a Hitler in 1933 right now.
Mr. Giggles
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Don't worry he'll apologize once the sanctions start rolling in.
there it is
Ragnar Blackmane
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Well, if there was no more threat from the coupist or even more coups then there wouldn't be any reason to continue the purging in the next few weeks, now would it?
Well, now the fun really begins.
Shouldn't we create a new, more relevant thread for the whole situation by now? This doesn't have that much to do with the coup itself anymore.
On the plus side, he didn't go all the way to full martial law!
Ragnar Blackmane
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Yet.
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