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[nynt9]

Ugh, I'm too stressed out right now. I'm going to step away for a bit. Can a mod keep the OP up to date with verified news items?

 

[Chaos17]

"Military assure they want to reinstate the rule of law, the freedom and security of people with this coup."

SIC Notícias Portuguese News Channel, live reporter in Ankara through Skype

Does Turkey has someone good to take that role ?

 

[oti]

May I ask why?

are you serious?

 

[Condom]

I hate erdogan but a military coup can be even worse, these aren't hippies taking over

 

[Kinyou]

I didn't know Turkey had such a history with coups. Hope this goes over well.

 

[Shiggy]

Hitler was democratically elected too, heh

Not really.

 

[Baron Doggystyle von Woof]

There have been four major coups in Turkey's history. The last one occurred in 1997. This will not set them back much should things go relatively smoothly.

How much do you know about turkey? After every coup turkeys economy was completely destroyed.

Same thing will happen again.

 

[warthog]

He was the leader elected by the people. does their will mean shit?

What if the democratically elected president has a not so democratic agenda?

 

[Resident_UA]

No, stop with that nonsense. The NSDAP never won the majority in elections. Their votes were going down when chancellor Schleicher and a guy called von Papen thought it was the best idea in the world to approach President Hindenburg to make Hitler chancellor of Germany. They thought Hitler and his supportes may work like a bandwagon for the deeply divided Weimar republic. Boy, were they wrong

You really have strong opinions about Nazi elections .

Anyway there are hundreds (edit: meant to say dozens) more dictators that were democratically elected. Hitler is always just an easy example. Didn't mean to get technical. That's why I "hated" saying it...

 

[JohnTinker]

Army is reading a statement on TRT now

Social media (FB/twitter/instagram) has been blocked in Turkey

AIRLIVE flight tracking service says Erdogan's presidential private jet has fled the country, their website being slammed with traffic right now https://twitter.com/airlivenet/status/754058104833249280

 

[SlimySnake]

"Worth noting, the Turkish military has a constitutional clause where they are supposed to overthrow the government if the government poses a threat to secularity"

Based Ataturk.

Awesome ... if true that is. Secularity isnt even a word.

Erdogan was pulling the country to the right and doing some stupid shit along the way like suing people for making fun of him. He had to go. You cant leave democracy up to the people all the time. People are stupid. See current republican nominee and Brexit. Also recent polls that suggest 42% of muslim french young adults have a favorable view of suicide bombings or the declining unfavorable ratings of Taliban and AlQaeda in Pakistan over the last couple of years or the recent survey that 64% of Pakistanis dont know if they view ISIS favorably or unfavorably.

In short, people are fucking stupid. And Turkey is one of the few secular muslim countries that actually works. Let's not turn it into fucking Pakistan.

 

[Real Hero]

I'm fine with Democracy, as long as idiots are not voting.

Ok, whatever. Like you get to decide who is an idiot. Not the place for this argument anyway.

 

[Kraftwerk]

All I learned so far is that tanks have tail lights

Ayy

 

[dakun]

You guys don't understand this will kick back turkey 50 years.

All the advancement were for nothing. The common people are fucked here. But what do you all care tho? Your not living there.

what the hell are you talking about. There have been no indication that the military has any intentions to make this a bloody takeover. If in fact they come from the secular strand of the country those in the government that pushed for a more Islamic Turkey will pay for trying to actually steer the country back to pre Ataturk times.

 

[Mr.Sumal]

Does Turkey has someone good to take that role ?

The rebels don't. what they are saying is full of hot-air

 

[sangreal]

"Military assure they want to reinstate the rule of law, the freedom and security of people with this coup."

SIC Notícias Portuguese News Channel, live reporter in Ankara through Skype

Has there ever been a coup that didn't go w/ that message?

 

[Rafy]

May I ask why?

Centuries old rivalry. They are right to mobilize, I grew up on an island 30 minutes away from Turkey by ferry and could see Turkish fighters violating our airspace every day. That was during normal times, with how chaotic things are getting now it's a wise move.

 

[Jackpot]

People who are endorsing this smh. He was DEMOCRATICALLY elected.

What a reductionist view. Only someone completely ignorant of history could believe the above. You only have to look far back as Yanukovych in Ukraine to see being democratically elected means they shouldn't be removed from office under any circumstances.

 

[pgtl_10]

I don't like coups. That clause in the constitution is dumb.

 

[boiled goose]

There have been four major coups in Turkey's history. The last one occurred in 1997. This will not set them back much should things go relatively smoothly.

let's hope that if this is a secular coup to add stronger protections in the constitution. What Erdogan did to the press was shameless and should not be possible..

I don't like coups. That clause in constitution is dumb.

I don't like coups. I hate dictators more.

 

[Dierce]

Doesn't the prime minister/president need to be captured in order for the coup to be successful?

 

[Mully]

How much do you know about turkey? After every coup turkeys economy was completely destroyed.

Same thing will happen again.

Of course it tanked, a fucking coup happened. That said, within 10 years Turkey's economy was booming and flirted with Euro membership briefly.

 

[ironcreed]

No it's not. Posts like this really need to stop.

Yes, everything is all fine and wonderful.

 

[kharma45]

You really have strong opinions about Nazi elections .

Anyway there are hundreds more dictators that were democratically elected. Hitler is always just an easy example. That's why I "hated" saying it...

No, it's not easy. It's ignorant and wrong.

And it's not strong opinions, it's actually knowing what you're talking about.

 

[sflufan]

May I ask why?

As a precautionary measure in case of any spillover into Greek territory or waters.

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

The rebels don't. what they are saying is full of hot-air

Erdoğan was becoming a dictator. If they don't have anyone to replace him that is ideal.

 

[norinrad]

He was the leader elected by the people. does their will mean shit?

Yes, the people did not give him the mandate to bend the Constitution as he sees fit.

 

[MUnited83]

You guys don't understand this will kick back turkey 50 years.

All the advancement were for nothing. The common people are fucked here. But what do you all care tho? Your not living there.

That's for one: bullshit and two: even if it wasnt, Erdogan was doing his best to kick back Turkey 100 years.

 

[Axial]

Didn't the french like close their embassy in Ankara and Istanbul recently due to security concerns?
*edit*
Holy shit, they did:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...ns-turkey-security-fears-160713131750838.html

 

[pgtl_10]

What a reductionist view. Only someone completely ignorant of history could believe the above. You only have to look far back as Yanukovych in Ukraine to see being democratically elected means they shouldn't be removed from office under any circumstances.

He should not have been overthrown either. There is a process. When you throw that away what's the point of democracy?

 

[TyrantII]

Correct me if i am wrong but... the nazi party never got 51% or more of the vote if i am not mistaken. More like 30% and then they bullied themselves to power.

On topic : erdogan is a vile character, so i hope this turns for the best. I fear it might get ugly though, with how popular erdogan is...

They were elected. You don't need a majority to come to power, especially in parliamentary systems. You only need a plurality.

I'm not sure what your point is

Democratically elected leaders can and have tried to year apart constitutions through history. Some with public support.

 

[Lego Boss]

This is massive.

What is going on in Eurasia right now is just unbelievable. It's like someone pushed the button and slowly everything is imploding.

 

[Mr.Sumal]

If the leader acts against the constitution, yes.

let's be real here the constitution is a cover for the rebels

 

[Meadows]

Turkey is now being run by a "peace council" according to a statement

 

[Slayer-33]

Holy shit, what is happening to this planet

 

[Benjamin1981]

No we dont. Erdogan is democratically elected. Military coups are always bad news.

Erdogan might by democratically elected, but he is no democrat. The way he treats the opposition parties and journalist is very bad. Dude needs to be sacked asap.

 

[Jackpot]

And people are even -thinking- about Turkey being part of the EUROPEAN Union? Hahaha.

No one was thinking that. Just Brexiteers pretending they were to spread FUD.

 

[Corto]

May I ask why?

Greece and Turkey have a long history of wars, conflicts, invasions. Any military coup on Turkey will raise the alertness in Greece.

 

[Oriel]

May I ask why?

I thought that would have been self evident. If there was a coup in Mexico City you can be sure the US military would be mobilising locking down the border swiftly. Remember also Greece and Turkey, you know, despise each other.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

let's hope that if this is a secular coup to add stronger protections in the constitution. What Erdogan did to the press was shameless and should not be possible..



I don't like coups. I hate dictators more.

I do agree that I would think impeachments would be.... cleaner?

 

[The Albatross]

I'm against erdogan and my first inclination is to support the military, who has represented secular Turkey. But being on my phone I don't know all of the details

 

[Lord Morairty007]

Erdogan was a tyrant. Time for him to leave. I hope this doesn't turn into a civil war.

 

[CoolOff]

I don't like coups. That clause in constitution is dumb.

That clause is one of the reasons Turkey has become one of the most consistently progressive countries in the Muslim world. I think it's a valid fail safe against theocracy.

 

[boiled goose]

Yes, the people did not give him the mandate to bend the Constitution as he sees fit.

Exactly. Democracy does not mean dictatorship.

 

[Blueliner]

Military declares martial law, curfew announcement on national TV

.

 

[pgtl_10]

let's hope that if this is a secular coup to add stronger protections in the constitution. What Erdogan did to the press was shameless and should not be possible..



I don't like coups. I hate dictators more.

He wasn't a dictator. He kept winning elections.

 

[idonteven]

the dude that set this all up is a mastermind

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Greek Armed Forces being mobilised and placed on alert. Wise move.

Good. I was hoping they'd get up to speed right away.

 

[SDCowboy]

Yes, everything is all fine and wonderful.

Is this your first exposure to the middle east?

 

[Yamauchi]

I'm so confused by your opinions. How can you be OK with Putin?!

I don't really like Putin that much, Resident_UA. I like Russia.