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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal

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SDCowboy

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The entire region is a powder keg with much of it in chaos and situations like this have the potential to ignite the whole area. But sure, everything is fine.

Who said everything is fine? There is shit going on in the unstable parts of the world, but times as a whole have rarely, if ever been better or safer. Welcome to the information age...We see everything now.
 

M.D

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Apparently AKP (Erdogan's party) is calling their supports to go out and oppose the coup

This could be fucked up if people start going and try to fight off the military
 
It seems like a lot of people on neogaf are so quick to dismiss democracy when it suits them.

you understand the "president" of the country was attempting to dismantle the constitution and basically make it so he had absolute power and say over the country, right?

Apparently AKP (Erdogan's party) is calling their supports to go out and oppose the coup

This could be fucked up if people start going and try to fight off the military

Here is the response.

"lol no"
 
Generally speaking, statements like this are not necessarily of any value. Even the Egypt's new constitution under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood sounded pretty good superficially.

Egypt didn't fail because of the constitution. Country failed because the people voted for the first best religious anti-democratic party.

But this too is democracy I guess.
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
It's better than them saying the opposite.

Yeah, but nobody...nobody would say that.
I am hopeful this turns out well, god knows I won't miss that ****-fucker Erdogan, but I never expect a positive outcome of things like this until it is proven.
 
"Freedom is guaranteed to everyone no matter race, religion or language"

New statement from the military.

Good news!

Edrogan was bad news from the start and complete devolution backwards.
He overstepped his bounds by trying to erode democratic and judicial institutions.

I hope Turkey reverts back to its secular self again
 
Yeah I was serious.

Thanks, I didn't know Greece and Turkey despise each other nor was aware Greece is located right by Turkey.

Basically, the landmass to the immediate right of Greece on any map? That's Turkey, also known as Asia Minor and Anatolia in historic or geographical contexts.

Turkey was the closest thing to a gateway into Europe for various powers from the Middle East for literally millennia - the arguable beginnings of a singular Greek identity comes from fighting off a Persian Empire. When Istanbul - then Constantinople - was the heart of the (eastern) Roman Empire, it was seen as a bulwark for Christendom against a rising Islam from the east. The Ottoman Empire centred its rule there, with Greek Christians used as a source of easy labour and slave soldiers. Several centuries of subjugation came to an end in the 19th century as the Ottoman Empire was recession, and the various peoples of the Balkans (the mountain region in and around Greece) threw off Ottoman rule. Wasn't that long after that the Ottomans then had Ataturk come along and rebuild the empire into Turkey. It is a long and bloody history to say the least.

Writing out this post took time and I know this thread moves fast, so any further clarification on which faction this might be?
 

Zapages

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Man, was putting that clause in the constitution one of the greatest examples of foresight in history?

And to think it came out of the Ottoman Empire.

The later half of the Ottoman Empire has a lot of military coups / Janissaries Coups...
 

Plus it's a right fucker to run that PAL key into hot and cold locations.

Seriously though, neither side would be foolish enough to attack a US military installation (and a NATO ally) because of the implications, and because both sides need the US on side.
 

cilonen

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Yeah I was serious.

Thanks, I didn't know Greece and Turkey despise each other nor was aware Greece is located right by Turkey.

Cyprus is still a flashpoint. After a Greek military coup in the seventies the Turkish military took advantage and invaded then occupied the north of the island where there was a large Turkish Cypriot (as opposed to Greek Cypriot) population.

There's a whole seventies beach resort ghost town - Famagusta - that would be fascinating to go and see if it wasn't incredibly dangerous and locked down by the Turkish military.

Edit for clarity: Cyprus is an island off the coast of both countries that both claim. It's split in half as a result of the actions in the seventies but neither side recognises the right of the other to occupy the island.
 
2:04 PM - 15 Jul 2016 Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai
All @facebook @twitter and @YouTube suspended in #Turkey by the Army.
Assad will have a wonderful night.

serveimage


;-)
1). Dovuloglu
2). Cameron
3). Erdogan
4). Who's next? Will someone be #4 ahead of Obama?
 

MetatronM

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Can't really put much stock in a statement issued in the midst of a coup, but the only thing to really do right now is hope that the motivations and aims of this group are as they say.


NBC now reporting Erdogan is seeking asylum in Germany.
 

MUnited83

For you.
It seems like a lot of people on neogaf are so quick to dismiss democracy when it suits them.
Kts really easy to diismiss democracy when the guy you elected is a ditatorial anti-democratic constitucional breaking fuckwit. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHTLet me guess, you would think that people trying to take down Hitler would be a affront to democracy as well? Sure sounds like it.
 

Alucrid

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Plus it's a right fucker to run that PAL key into hot and cold locations.

Seriously though, neither side would be foolish enough to attack a US military installation (and a NATO ally) because of the implications, and because both sides need the US on side.

don't the RAF and German forces have troops there too? not three countries you'd want to piss off like that
 

Azzanadra

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Um I have mixed feeling about this, and it all depends for the reason of the coup. If its the secularists taking over then yay, if its the far right religious weirdos than nay.
 

Mimosa97

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This a kelamist coup guys. Chill out.

Erdogan have been playing wannabe Caliph for too fucking long. The guy was a direct threat to secularism. Anyone who's been pro-secularism should be okay with this.

Now let's hope Turkey doesn't turn into a military dictatorship.
 
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