Not this again. We've already addressed this bollocks in the thread.
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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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Not this again. We've already addressed this bollocks in the thread.
Regginator
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We're already witnessing something horrendous. A coup against the Turkish citizens that have democratically chosen Erdogan. Our way of live and values shouldn't affect nor forced upon the rest of the world.
Yup. Those fapping on the word 'secular' seem quite naive.
DXB-KNIGHT
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He's on another TV station through an app saying he's going to revolt with people on the street 😂
Rajab reads GAF confirmed
Rajab reads GAF confirmed
Forsete
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Sure, everything has a price. :/
elected despotic strongmen are still despotic strongmen
a plurality of votes does not grant any moral authority to a political leader
Bedameister
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what the fuck is going on?
Frankfurter
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Wait, is there cobfirmation that he intends to travel to Germany? Because that would ne beyond hilarious.
The perfect Dark
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His party was democratically elected ffs.
We've already debunked that nonsense five pages ago.
The Turkish military does have that right under their constitution. It's that mustached tyrant that doesn't have any rights to spit on secularism and tear down the constitution.
Regginator
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Apparently the majority of the voters were okay with those choices, otherwise we would have seen a protest or whatever on a massive (e.g. millions) scale. Instead we get the army barging in. Did they consult the people? Did they conduct an expansive research about it? Ironically GAF seems to applaud non-democratic means to topple a state of head they don't agree with.
Democracy in Turkey right now doesn't mean what you think it means. Even elections don't mean what you think they mean. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Elector...uring_the_Turkish_general_election,_June_2015
He eroded freedom of press, freedom of religion and imprisoned his opponents without charges. He is a fascist autocrat.
Also you are ignorant in general because this coup is actually legal, it's motivated by one of the primary items of the constitution.
Good thing. Erdogan is a terrible leader trying to turn back a secular government into fanatical rule and little to no democracy. Hopefully it goes smoothly though.
The power of the military to hit the reset button is baked into their constitution. It's not illegal.
That's why referendums are stupid not democracy
toadsworth
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holy shit i'm dying
So far there is no source for that except one GAF user who posted twice the same thing more or less with no source.
Royal_Phalanx
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According to the reddit feed an Erdogan supporter was killed after running at the military shouting "Allahu Akbar"
oh my humor just enter the scene
Peter Ian Staker
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He will get arrested for it....Oh wait
The perfect Dark
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Nonsene, lmao. Aaaand I'm out again.
secular doesn't mean liberal like some would like/hope
Dark Cloud
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Why is he going to Germany? Sorry I don't follow this stuff so I didn't even know who this Erdogan guy is.
superdeluxe
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Meh even if its secular, and they have the hearts in the right place, a coup on a popular (based on voting) democratically elected president is typically not a good thing.
You realize this is bullshit right? And the fact that he was trying to erode democracy, means that he is no longer democratic? You can just say "Oh I didn't know that." This happens often in Turkey, Turkey has a history of coups. The military has a legal right to do so as well. So you're wrong on that front as well.
People are cheering in the streets. Please, stop posting. Google first, then come back and we can continue with some sort of substance, besides what you think because of invalid reasons.
TheLostBigBoss
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Do you not understand what he was doing?
He wasn't just a bad president, he was eroding checks and balances in the government, he wanted an extreme amount of power.
Stop talking out your ass and at least do some god damn research
The constitution legally allows military coups, so it's not even an illegal act.
I believe that was in Ankara.
Regginator
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I would like to read that part of their constitution if you have a link.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
It would be unfortunate if this somehow had the effect of strengthening Erdogan (assuming he can even regain power). At the very least, it's likely to further deepen the divisions within Turkish society.
Tallshortman
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This seems very well organized according to reports. Not looking like it's just a small group of lower officers.
Yeah Sky News reporting that via AFP. Ankara even, not Istanbul.
There is no such thing as true democracy.
Germany has the largest community of Turks in Europe outside of Turkey. Many are Erdogan supporters.
A democracy is not, and never has been, a dictatorship of the majority.
Royal_Phalanx
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The CHP are fucking idiots if they're supporting Erdogan. Erdogan is killing secularism in Turkey.
victreeb3l
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What kind of laws?
I just did a quick Google search and seemed like he helped the economy and attempted to remove the hijab ban in public institutions. He also treated the media and kurds poorly? Looks like he tried to criminalize adultery and tried to introduce alcohol free zones as well?
Amazing argument you have there. Google, then come back to participate.
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