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[commedieu]

If Erdogan is claiming that it's the Gülen movement that is pushing this action, then it's a short degree of conspiratorial separation between the leader of the moment, Fethullah Gülen, living in exile in the U.S., and the CIA.

Thanks for the education.

 

[His Majesty]

These rebels seem to be losing quickly now.

This will lead to Erdogan implementing even more draconian laws that will make him more and more untoucheable.

This might lead to exactly the opposite of what the rebels wanted.

Sad, really.

Providing a casus belli for Putin to protect the Russian minorities in Turkey

 

[Fritz]

How have people decided already that this is a failed coup? Based on what?
Just want to know.

On BS. We'll have to wait and see for now.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

How are people saying it's a failed coup if the coup has total air superiority?

Air superiority is not really the important part of a coup.

 

[Asd202]

So why is this happening?

 

[spekkeh]

First Army of Turkey does not support the coup according to Al Jazeera. This would be the army in Istanbul they say. All seems very fragmented.

That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.

 

[Chronoja]

Did those people carrying the flag just got shot?

sure looked like it.

 

[cilonen]

Boris first assignment!

He recently won £1000 from his old rag The Spectator for coming top in a poetry competition with an effort suggesting Erdogan liked screwing goats.

This'll be fun!

 

[cartoon_soldier]

People keep saying this, but because of what?

Where do get that from?

Past coups have happened against unpopular governments. This is a popular government.

 

[Vastag]

Friend of mine from college (who is Turkish) flew home a few days ago, she's right in the thick of it and posting some insane Facebook updates. I've encouraged her to go out and get some photos, hopefully she nails some awesome shots.

Do you understand what a military coup with shots fired, tanks in the streets, etc... involves? you have encouraged a friend to go out to take photos? really?

 

[everyday math]

Looks like those protestors got stopped in their tracks.
Not very smart to march up against people with guns.

 

[nynt9]

Muslims chant Allahu Akbar. They always do. It's not exclusive to 'dangerous Islamists'. Jesus Christ, regardless of what you think of Erdogan no one should support the forced removal of a popular elected leader by the military. And before you give me that shit about 'it's constitutional’, just because something's in a constitution does not mean it's justified and morally right.

Are Erdogan's actions justified and morally right then?

"popular elected leader" is hilarious though https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Elector...uring_the_Turkish_general_election,_June_2015

 

[Boke1879]

I'll say this. If the military is doing this as it is their duty. Then they are right. If this ends up failing. Then Turkey deserve this man.

 

[ironcreed]

People being shot apparently: https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/754078422322642944

Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBEmqvVPOX4

Murdering citizens is not what I call trying to establish order and freedom for everyone.

 

[Dierce]

The military doesn't appear to have sufficient support from the people in the streets. If they are indeed trying to establish secular rule it sadly doesn't appear that it will successful, way too many fanatics on the streets.

 

[Dee Dee]

kinda curious why Germany didn't allow the plane to land

Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but just in case:
There were massive tensions between the German government and Erdogan recently, starting with Erdogan parodies and (kinda vile and personal) attacks on him being broadcast on public television channels, leading to a bunch of exchanges between both governments concerning freedom of parody/speech discussions, that then happened within Germany as well (some people got fired), up to the point where Erdogan refused several German government officials the entry to visit German stationed troops in Turkey.
The relation is currently strained, to put it optimistically.

 

[ArjanN]

How have people decided already that this is a failed coup? Based on what?
Just want to know.

Tales from the ass. Whenever there's a chaotic situation everyone just starts making shit up. Far too soon to tell.

 

[Snake]

It would be really nice if people would stop posting baseless speculation/rumors from reddit and twitter as fact.

A lost cause, I'm sure.

 

[orochi91]

I live in Istanbul. This is a failed coup. Literally thousands of people stormed through the street I live in. Some points like Bosphorus are still being locked down by Military

Has a military coup ever failed in Turkey?

 

[MMaRsu]

Muslims chant Allahu Akbar. They always do. It's not exclusive to 'dangerous Islamists'. Jesus Christ, regardless of what you think of Erdogan no one should support the forced removal of a popular elected leader by the military. And before you give me that shit about 'it's constitutional’, just because something's in a constitution does not mean it's justified and morally right.

Actually, turning a country into a religious dictatorship, that in my eyes is justified to remove such a madman.

 

[dakun]

Muslims chant Allahu Akbar. They always do. It's not exclusive to 'dangerous Islamists'. Jesus Christ, regardless of what you think of Erdogan no one should support the forced removal of a popular elected leader by the military. And before you give me that shit about 'it's constitutional’, just because something's in a constitution does not mean it's justified and morally right.

In Turkey this is not the case. chanting Allahu Akbar in this context clearly shows your allegiance to the Erdogans side of Islamism, which i see as dangerous.

 

[Already Torn]

No need to repeat yourself. There are over 50 posts in this thread that have already discussed this.

I didn't know that! I'm glad it was repeated.

 

[Not Spaceghost]

I still can't get over the fact that he addressed the press from face time. There is no way that is going to inspire confidence in anyone but I suppose not addressing them at all would be even worse.

 

[Real Hero]

doesn't seem like the coup has managed to accomplish much beyond the initial kick off.

 

[Soyongdori]

kinda curious why Germany didn't allow the plane to land

Something to do with Erdogan being a massive douchenozzle and known to throw a temper tantrum like Kim Jong Un and tend to blackmail other countries when things doesn't go his way, oh and he tried to blackmail Germany couple of months ago regarding refugees and a comedian.

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

If the coup fails Turkey will get what they deserve from this madman.

 

[MassiveNights]

There is a LOT of people gathering in a square in Ankara. There are live pictures on Sky News.

 

[MMaRsu]

I'll say this. If the military is doing this as it is their duty. Then they are right. If this ends up failing. Then Turkey deserve this man.

Agreed

 

[Kurita]

Friend of mine from college (who is Turkish) flew home a few days ago, she's right in the thick of it and posting some insane Facebook updates. I've encouraged her to go out and get some photos, hopefully she nails some awesome shots.

You're an idiot

 

[Red Fire]

those Islamic chants by the crowd are terrifying to me. Many of these Erdogan supporters are fucking insane.

Wow this thread is full of ignorants who dont know shit and talk...


Anyway, the bridge has been reclaimed, some of the generals have been captured.. people all over turkey are on the streets, istanbul, ankara, izmir, EVERYWHERE.

Luckily a failed coup.

 

[jstevenson]

Council of peace my ass

i hope erdogan clowns on these fools

The military controls the bridge. They are trying to cross it. What did they expect?

 

[Sax1031]

I live in Istanbul. This is a failed coup. Literally thousands of people stormed through the street I live in. Some points like Bosphorus are still being locked down by Military

this is going to be awkward.

almost certainty that the US and EU were involved.

 

[commedieu]

I still can't get over the fact that he addressed the press from face time. There is no way that is going to inspire confidence in anyone but I suppose not addressing them at all would be even worse.

I just watched human beings storm a tank, without weapons.

Seems it worked.

 

[NyMartin90]

Something to do with Erdogan being a massive douchenozzle and known to throw a temper tantrum like Kim Jong Un and tend to blackmail other countries when things doesn't go his way.

If Erdogan actually emerges the victor here I feel bad for Turco-German relations

 

[Kathian]

Shots over the crown on bbc

 

[cartoon_soldier]

I still can't get over the fact that he addressed the press from face time. There is no way that is going to inspire confidence in anyone but I suppose not addressing them at all would be even worse.

One of the most important thing in a coup early on is media access. Being able to address the press but more importantly his supporters was hugely beneficial to him. If he doesn't get that access to media then there is no counter protest.

 

[SgtCobra]

I'll say this. If the military is doing this as it is their duty. Then they are right. If this ends up failing. Then Turkey deserve this man.

QFT

 

[sflufan]

I can imagine the utter chaos in the situation room at the Pentagon and at NATO HQ as they try to figure which units of the Turkish military have allegiance to whom.

 

[Diprosalic]

shots at bbc stream now?

 

[JP_]

Lots of gunfire on fox stream.. not sure if at people or not

 

[qazqaNii]

Turkish Naval Forces announced that they reject and is not supporting the coup. Thank god.

It must be easy for some people outside of Turkey that doesnt have any experience with coups and supports it so lightly.

Hope it ends soon.

 

[Paasei]

The only good result that can happen is no victims and no more Erdogan to rule Turkey cause he will be disavowed from his career and/or being imprisoned. Just so they can go back to their better days where Turkey was actually a democratic country.

 

[SilentRacoon]

Mosques calling people to go outside.

Refrain from posting anything without providing a link to the source, THX.

I wouldn't be quick to judge the people protesting on the streets, specially if you are not Turkish, we don't even know the true intentions of the coup, and rumors point out to this being lead by Fethullah Gülen, and if that's the case, people have all the right in the world to oppose the movement.

 

[Chaos17]

The military doesn't appear to have sufficient support from the people in the streets. If they are indeed trying to establish secular rule it sadly doesn't appear that it will successful, way too many fanatics on the streets.

Usually it's like that, good/neutral people will take shelter instead (they're not wrong) while opposition will try what they can.

 

[orochi91]

I'll say this. If the military is doing this as it is their duty. Then they are right. If this ends up failing. Then Turkey deserve this man.

+1

Agreed.

 

[Frozenprince]

this is going to be awkward.

almost certainty that the US and EU were involved.

hahahahahahahahaha.

No.

 

[LNBL]

Mosques calling people to go outside.

Source?

 

[ShutEye]

I have Turkish friends that are convinced this a set up to allow ergodan to push thru constitutional change and seize power

 

[Kolx]

The army is fuckin shooting people. How the fuck is this going to end well?

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

Refrain from posting anything without providing a link to the source, THX.

Straight from the reddit feed. https://www.reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq