orthodoxy1095
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yeah no military coups have ever worked before.
u know history so good. teach us more
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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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u know history so good. teach us more
The people elected him but you dont really care about that do you
What?
German Turks are very pro-Erdogan, atleast the ones that vote. Not surprised by pro government support.
Honestly right now its probably not looking good for the Coup but we really have no idea.
Its the InfoWar stage of things. Each side needs to make the other side look like things are going to shit because that's how you keep support up.
MMaRsu
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Well early in the evening I heard they were monitoring the situation closely.
He not going to tacitly support a coup either lol.
Tranqueris
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Yeah people need to stop with this bullshit. Also I love that people keep trying to defend this nonsense by bringing up "democratically elected" countries that were/are known for disappearing the fuck out of people and shamelessly rigging elections.
massivekettle
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Then that's up to the electorate to stand up, like during the Arab Spring in Egypt, Libya, etc.
They haven't done so. In fact, they seem to stand up to the Army's coup.
Dude... Syria, Egypt and Iraq all have/had authoritarian secular military governments that acted incredibly violent towards Islamist opposition, even when that opposition was popularly supported as it was in Egypt.
I get that some truly hate Erdogan but to the point that you'd support a violent coup by the army? That's just crazy.
What am I reading? This isn't board game night.
Stitch
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Oh shit, now Emperor Erdogan will get Unlimited Power.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Well you know, Democracy also gave us all George Bush
Also with the military forces firing at protesters there is no way you can back that. If that wasn't happening the US might have waited a little longer. Gotta find that middle ground and have a safe position until this is over.
I don't know about the other countries but Turkey provides a lot of foreign aid and assistance to Somalia, probably more than any other country. This is why they are liked there.
The electorate tried. They were gassed, sprayed and beaten.
TheRealTalker
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people hating on the people who are anti coup should realize this is also the norm right now with Human right analyst twitters, political analyst twitters, and now presidents of other countries
Protests for what? Looks like people randomly waiving flags which could mean anything.
More Fun To Compute
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CIA can't even organise an undemocratic military coup any more. The US empire is over.
It's true. Think about what would happen if he came out in support of the coup and it fails. Diplomatic relations would be fucked and considering Turkey's part of NATO that's not an option.
Frustrated_me
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The man that banned street protests is asking people to protest on the street.
I can't fucking stand Erdogan.
I can't fucking stand Erdogan.
JuanLatino
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Operation Ajax in Iran, i know, worked so well
Yup. He doesn't specify a side or what "democratically elected leaders" actually means.
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How wonder how much closer Russia will manage to get to Turkey as a result of this. Clearly Russia would prefer to draw Turkey away from the US-UK "axis", but at the same time they are enemies.
Jesus Christ how many fucking times do you need this shit explained to you? Are you honestly this dense?
Didn't realise Facebook Live allowed you to see videos on a map and instantly watch by hovering your mouse over. Seriously impressive. Go look at Turkey, every feed is people on the streets, en masse, protesting against the coup.
Not up on my Turkey knowledge but as much as Erdogan doesn't seem all that great a military fucking coup is something else altogether, and not something any of the people seem to be happy with... IF what I'm seeing is right.
https://www.facebook.com/live
Not up on my Turkey knowledge but as much as Erdogan doesn't seem all that great a military fucking coup is something else altogether, and not something any of the people seem to be happy with... IF what I'm seeing is right.
https://www.facebook.com/live
DXB-KNIGHT
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There are some conspiracy theories that this whole Coup is an act by Erdogan.
Regarding that I don't believe so since such an act will affect Turkey's current shaky financial state.
Regarding that I don't believe so since such an act will affect Turkey's current shaky financial state.
ferrasvansen
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Yeah how ironic eh, bans protests yet demands his own, bet he doesn't allow them after this.
i think it was more like a call to arms which is even more insane
The military/police repeatedly killed civilians as ordered by Erdogan. That was OK?
eyeball_kid
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I suppose the central question is, if this helicopter of the "coup plotters" did get shot down... which I find odd that all the head honchos would be flying around in one chopper... but if they did, will the coup military units keep fighting?
It's hard to tell how much of the military is controlled by this coup faction. It seems like a rather poor plan if the coup plotters only had a few helicopters and some tanks and expected to take over the country and defeat the army loyalists.
It's hard to tell how much of the military is controlled by this coup faction. It seems like a rather poor plan if the coup plotters only had a few helicopters and some tanks and expected to take over the country and defeat the army loyalists.
Unbound By Death
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And people listened. Erdogan isn't the only problem it seems.
Yup, yet the idiotic public support this asshole.
The public are part to blame for his dictatorship and rule.
Spoiled Milk
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Since I know you live in Instanbul (or is it Ankara?) I want to ask, do you think ISIS or PKK will try to take advantage of the transition period?
Soldiussnaku
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Wait, why are people commenting on this thread, this quickly, stating the coup has failed without any sources?? It has been literal hours into the attempt and there is so much confusion that no one has any idea what the fuck is going on.
Please, if you don't have sources to state the coup has failed or succeeded, don't make statements that can read as confirmation, is confusing as all hell.
Please, if you don't have sources to state the coup has failed or succeeded, don't make statements that can read as confirmation, is confusing as all hell.
elrechazado
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In a helicopter strike not in s helicopter
TheLostBigBoss
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Turkey is a NATO member
Obama could never publicly support or stay silent when a member of NATO is experiencing a coup
Egypt was a little different because it wasn't a member of NATO, and the US didn't want to halt military aid, which is why it was never declared a coup by the US.
If this succeeds, the US won't declare this a coup, Obama hasn't even said the word "coup" because of the legal implications.
Just don't say anything. They already put out a statement saying that they're monitoring the situation. That's all that's needed.
TheRealTalker
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sure all those civilians getting shot at right now mean nothing too
fuck them as well am I right
Obama supporting Erdogan gives US advantageous positioning either way. A secular military government is more advantageous than Erdogan. A relationship with Turkey is required to maintain the southern border right now, regardless of leader. Showing support of Erdogan now will not be problematic with a military-led secular Turkey later.
Obama gets to keep sounding like he is pro-democracy too. Its really only win-win making a comment supporting Erdogan.
You said your point but i wont support the farce by the council of mayhem
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