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[kirblar]

An army is safeguarding the democratic state by overthrowing a democratically elected government. Are you even listening to your self.

The judiciary in the US is non-democratic and has regularly overruled democratic institutions.

 

[73V3N]

Which example seems more similar, yours or his?

moving the goalposts, expected.

Coup d'etats can be good and bad? What a amazing revelation you have unleashed upon us!

So, just like I said?

Don't quote me again till you calm down, from your posts here it seems that you are freaking out a little

 

[trembli0s]

Wow so this is the worst case scenario now? A Failed coup?

Back in 2002 in Venezuela the exact thing happened. There was a failed coup and Chavez then purged all of the military and filled it with yes men giving him free reigns in becoming the dictatorship and failed state that Venezuela is today.

There are stories about how Chavez was tied up and all but no one pulled the trigger on him. Pretty much everyone here now regrets that he wasn't killed right there. Hope Turkey has a better future than what we had.

This is exactly what's going to happen, except you have the added bonus of funneling terrorists across the Turkish border as they increasingly become an Islamic theocracy.

Obama needs to make plans to move the nukes out of Turkey tonight and have them gone by next week.

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

Cenk on TYT sayings us was probably on the side of the coup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a48o2S1cPoo

 

[Zona]

Uh

Do you really believe this? That a military coup will end with free and fair elections? How often has this been the case historically?

In Turkey? Every time so far oddly enough.

 

[NyMartin90]

Too bad Greece doesn't have the will and ability to retake the European side of Constantinople in this confusion.

That would never happen in the Modern 21st century. Greece would lose all diplomatic relations (except with Russia) and the Turks would fight back for it anyways.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Oh great.. now we got these idiots making problems in our country for no damn reason.

Im so shocked.

 

[TheRealTalker]

She was the one being forced to read out the "coup declaration" (don't know how it's called in english) when the coupsters took over the state tv station. She just said she was being told to read it out at gunpoint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-37tBYTjiI

she should've instead been pleased of the HONOUR of getting any attention from her future savior

/s

 

[His Majesty]

Too bad Greece doesn't have the will and ability to retake the European side of Constantinople in this confusion.

byzantium rightful greek clay

 

[bidguy]

Cenk on TYT sayings us was probably on the side of the coup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a48o2S1cPoo

they obviously didnt back it though

 

[Mr.Sumal]

Mr.Sumal is a joke account right?

Not being on your side makes me a joke


smh for real

 

[MMaRsu]

albeit the right one

beat him in elections instead of causing mayhem

Dude HOW are you so ignorant? Seriously dude what the f.

Cheating in elections, throwing opposition in jail, controlling the press

How can you beat him in an election??????????????????????

 

[ezrarh]

Cenk on TYT sayings us was probably on the side of the coup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a48o2S1cPoo

I think people should stop taking this guy seriously by now.

 

[Korey]

How exactly can a country's military lose?

 

[Tugatrix]

Time to recall the early rumors about a coup doom to fail to justify a ranks cleaning in the army

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

they obviously didnt back it though

I think people should stop taking this guy seriously by now.

He was giving history that dealt with the person that they thought was behind it, and how he is in Pennsylvania.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

How exactly can a country's military lose?

It wasn't the entire military

 

[orthodoxy1095]

An army is safeguarding the democratic state by overthrowing a democratically elected government. Are you even listening to your self.

still makes me lol

 

[Best]

So does this mean Turkey won't be joining the EU?

 

[Nirolak]

How exactly can a country's military lose?

Clearly the military is fighting itself.

 

[Frustrated_me]

Not being on your side makes me a joke


smh for real

No.

You supporting a corrupt government ruining a secular country and turning it into an islamist one is what makes you a joke.

 

[NyMartin90]

They say Erdogan will most likely land soon at Atatutk Airport

 

[Diancecht]

This is a play from Erdogan. It's fucking stupid.

Imagine a SINGLE helicopter firing pot shots at the White House and NO ONE is shooting it down. It's happening right now. It's a fucking farce.

 

[Cromat]

https://www.flightradar24.com/THY8456/a5a3952

Turkish Presidential aircraft apparently flying to Istanbul.

It's amazing that we get to see this live. Before I saw it circling around, probably waiting for the "all clear".

The coup is likely dead.

 

[marrec]

What are the chances that this is Erdogan's Reichstag Fire?

This seems like it was a bit larger in scope, would be much harder to pull off. Likely this is a legitimate coup attempt foiled by poor planning.

 

[Markoman]

What are the chances that this is Erdogan's Reichstag Fire?

I'd say 71,23%...
The history of Hitler's empowerment is still the 101 for dictators.

 

[Sölf]

Dude HOW are you so ignorant? Seriously dude what the f.

Cheating in elections, throwing opposition in jail, controlling the press

How can you beat him in an election??????????????????????

With your fist, obviously.

 

[Crisium]

...and Persia, Egypt, Arabia. LOL

The Thrace area has been Greek more than Turkish throughout history. You don't need to equate it to a maddening claim to retake the whole briefly held Alexander the Great conquests.

 

[Gabriel_Logan]

How exactly can a country's military lose?

Not fast enough to seize points of power, unwilling to kill civilians.

 

[Kephar]

What are the chances that this is Erdogan's Reichstag Fire?

That's what I thought.

 

[IrishNinja]

I think people should stop taking this guy seriously by now.

should've happened a while ago, honestly - the armenian genocide stuff was just icing on the cake

 

[Nikodemos]

How exactly can a country's military lose?

If only part of it participates in the coup.

The generals are all Erdogan's yes-men. He planned to replace all senior commanders as well (colonel to major). They tried to fight back but reports claim they miscalculated.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

Turkey bans Twitter in bid to block 'propaganda' pictures of kidnapping


#TwitterisblockedinTurkey is trending worldwide.

An army is safeguarding the democratic state by overthrowing a democratically elected government. Are you even listening to your self.

Isn't the government overstepping its bounds by changing the constitution and going towards a more non-secular direction that would threaten the rights of citizens?

 

[Ether_Snake]

What are the chances that this is Erdogan's Reichstag Fire?

Thought so at the beginning. Always suspected that when Putin disappears for a bit it's to see if anyone tries to carry out a coup.

This could have been Erdogan making himself look vulnerable to draw a few out in the military.

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

This seems like it was a bit larger in scope, would be much harder to pull off. Likely this is a legitimate coup attempt foiled by poor planning.

Seems more like the coup against Hitler near the end of the war.

 

[Sax1031]

Cenk on TYT sayings us was probably on the side of the coup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a48o2S1cPoo

no doubt

same reason Germany refused his asylum request.

 

[Zamorro]

albeit the right one

beat him in elections instead of causing mayhem

The opposition has no chance at all with the media under his absolute control. And now the entire army is under his control too.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

This is a play from Erdogan. It's fucking stupid.

Imagine a SINGLE helicopter firing pot shots at the White House and NO ONE is shooting it down. It's happening right now. It's a fucking farce.

ehh, you don't know which sectors of the air force are under coup control and pro-government.

 

[Chaos17]

I am sorry why again some people is supporting that guy ?

"What women need is to have equivalence of worth rather than equality -- in other words justice," Erdogan said at the International Women and Justice Summit in November 2014.
"You cannot make men and women equal," he said. "That is against creation. Their natures are different. Their dispositions are different."

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/09/europe/erdogan-turkey-mansplained-womanhood/

I understand to not be for the coup but to like this guy... I'm just trying to understand the different opinions here...

 

[MMaRsu]

With your fist, obviously.

 

[His Majesty]

This seems like it was a bit larger in scope, would be much harder to pull off. Likely this is a legitimate coup attempt foiled by poor planning.

Planning looked okay but they didn't have the backing Erdogan had. And the moment you start to shoot civilians you've already lost.

 

[Lucumo]

These people are glad to live here and enjoy all our benefits but they still identify themselves as Turks. And boy do they love Erdogan. Glad they got knocked out early in the EURO's else you can't get a decent night of sleep.

Identifying yourself as a Turk is ok but being a fanatic is not. Living in freedom while supporting suppression in the country where they came from is disgusting. Honestly, whoever engages in violence (well, initiates), they should send back. (Would be a problem if it's 2nd or further generation though.)

 

[Frustrated_me]

Turkish government state media: " We have TOTAL control of the state"


Meanwhile the helicopters are raining shots on parliament.

 

[water_wendi]

What are the chances that this is Erdogan's Reichstag Fire?

Weekend.. Erdogan already out of country.. seemingly little support. It wouldnt surprise me if that turned out to be true.

 

[SuperSah]

What's this about it being Erdogan's doing?

 

[Baron Doggystyle von Woof]

The Thrace area has been Greek more than Turkish throughout history. You don't need to equate it to a maddening claim to retake the whole briefly held Alexander the Great conquests.

The American area has been Indian more than White throughout history. You don't need to equate it to a maddening claim to retake the whole briefly held Indian conquests.

 

[jm89]

So does this mean Turkey won't be joining the EU?

EU really isn't that appealing nowadays anyway see brexit.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

albeit the right one

beat him in elections instead of causing mayhem

Dictators typically aren't beaten in elections unless they're really, really, really stupid and/or weak.

What are the chances that this is Erdogan's Reichstag Fire?

Decent. But we'll need to wait for the dust to settle to be sure.

 

[MUnited83]

Do people not realize the irony of shouting "The People Have Spoken!" where if you're opposed to Edrogan you will be shut up. You won't be able to come forward with your opinions on news media, where people get thrown in jail or worse just for being from the opposition, and where your vote doesn't count for shit because elections are fixed?

"The people have spoken" is a empty fucking argument when you stop the portion of "the people" that don't agree with you from talking.

moving the goalposts, expected.



So, just like I said?

Don't quote me again till you calm down, from your posts here it seems that you are freaking out a little

The guy you replied to never said that a coup d'etat couldn't be bad, so you're just going around basically arguing about nothing.

Uh

Do you really believe this? That a military coup will end with free and fair elections? How often has this been the case historically?

Turkey. Like, several times. Portugal too. There's other examples as well.

 

[Mr.Sumal]

No.

You supporting a corrupt government ruining a secular country and turning it into an islamist one is what makes you a joke.

ehh not wanting to see bloodshed just for a junta clearly makes sense