DudeWithNoName
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Failed military coup in Turkey; Erdogan promising swift reprisal
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Frozenprince
Banned
The Turkish Republic had a good run.
Frustrated_me
Member
My mistake? LOL I didn't write that, some people were saying it was weird or fishy and I shared it from the Reddit live thread.
Conspiracy tin-foil or not Erdogan and Islamist are ruining the country.
Admit that and we'll move on.
The guy deserved to go. That was consistent before this and will be consistent tomorrow. The only regret is the loss of innocent life. You can keep harping and being so transparently ugly but that doesn't change the reality that these are dark days for Turkey.
Frustrated_me
Member
Exactly.
I don't think I can go back and support a country with such extreme views.
koji kabuto
Member
NSFL
I really don't understand why would someone try to stop a tank using his bare hands!
not a good idea at all
http://i.imgur.com/uW6N2EC.gif
I really don't understand why would someone try to stop a tank using his bare hands!
not a good idea at all
http://i.imgur.com/uW6N2EC.gif
MikeHattsu
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Spoiler tagging images doesn't work on mobile...
Mr. Giggles
Member
With all due respect, were you ever going to return.
Reading your posts it seemed Turkey was already fucked up.
There was a coup and the people said "no"
What Turkey were you going to return to?
TheRealTalker
Banned
I admitted that so many times I lost count
I am not sure if your serious or have been ignoring my posts
indeed dark days
Sir Blaming
Member
This year has truly been one of the wildest year. Maybe it's because of the advent of the internet?
Good luck to people living at Turkey. I don't see a good future for them.
Good luck to people living at Turkey. I don't see a good future for them.
koji kabuto
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superdeluxe
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Ether_Snake
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Two ways I can see this unfold over the next few days/weeks:
1- Erdogan does a small purge, and leaves it at that, mainly using this as an opportunity to increase his power but doesn't rewrite the constitution; the West turns a blind eye to it.
2- Erdogan does a big purge and rewrites the constitution. All of the Western governments tonight specifically mentioned a need to "respect the constitution", and this was probably a preemptive warning to have a reason to blast Erdogan if he doesn't hold back.
Considering what he said tonight, such as how old Turkey is finished and this is a new Turkey, it wouldn't surprise me if he went ahead and changed the constitution.
There is no actual elections in Turkey anymore.
1- Erdogan does a small purge, and leaves it at that, mainly using this as an opportunity to increase his power but doesn't rewrite the constitution; the West turns a blind eye to it.
2- Erdogan does a big purge and rewrites the constitution. All of the Western governments tonight specifically mentioned a need to "respect the constitution", and this was probably a preemptive warning to have a reason to blast Erdogan if he doesn't hold back.
Considering what he said tonight, such as how old Turkey is finished and this is a new Turkey, it wouldn't surprise me if he went ahead and changed the constitution.
There is no actual elections in Turkey anymore.
Frustrated_me
Member
Of course I was going to return, at the least back to Fethiye or Alacati and so on. With what is going on in the south east (Kurds) and the further injection of religion I've lost desire to.
What if those ideas involve chucking gays off buildings? Or stoning women?
Darkest timeline indeed
I don't see anyone dying in that gif, so it isn't that horrible though.
Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me..
It's been two crazy days, who knows what will happen next. Stay safe everyone.
Kinda crazy what's happened to Turkey and Syria in the last 5-10 years.
Frustrated_me
Member
It's a scary thought to imagine what these people will go through now.Last stand off surrendering.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Yeah man, winning elections against dictators that rig elections is so easy.
Yes that's a brilliant idea. I wonder why no one has ever thought of that. What's that? He throws political opponents in jail, gags the press, and uses his security apparatus to clamp down on dissenters? Why shit, if only these people presented their ideas and voted, the dictator would see he is not wanted and go away.
No there are elections but he wins so people act like they don't exist.
Sir Blaming
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If everything was black and white huh?
Mr. Giggles
Member
Ok.
I'm curious to see what happens tomorrow, I've been reading GAF so much that my assumption was he was hated by most of the country.
What I've seen on the news says differently, he does need to go but I think democracy will be the only way
Frustrated_me
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Maybe you're not familiar with AKP and its chief Erdogan? They imprison their opponents.
Hosni Mubarak used to win elections with over 90% of the votes. You think that was democracy too?
Ether_Snake
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Anyone who supported the coup would stay inside, as the coup-faction told them to, and because it makes sense. Do you think people who wanted Stalin dead would have been dumb enough to manifest in the street after a couple of tanks and a few soldiers try to revolt?
He's been wanting a new constitution. I would be surprised to see him not push for constitutional changes.
Yet this coup attempt because of his support. Once again Middle Eastern run to militaries to get what they can't get at the ballot box.
Funny how he lost "rigged" elections in June 2015.
RamzaIsCool
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They probably hoped that after a blitz attack on some important institutions the rest of the army would follow, because they are certainly not the only ones in the army who have grievances with this government. But nobody followed and stayed in their barracks. After that failed the coup was basically over, you can't do much with such a small force.
But yeah... everything about this event is so fuckin weird. Don't even know who Erdoğan is gonna purge, not many actually partipated with the coup. And the ones who did are either in custody or death. And i don't agree with the notion that Erdoğan wil get more populair because of this. The most important factor of his popularity will be the economy and don't think this whole thing will contribute to the already waning economic situation of Turkey.
TheRealTalker
Banned
it is like you guys forgot about the election prior to that in the same year that failed to form a coaltion
spiderman123
Member
Wait Turkey president was "democratically" elected ?!
Erdogan already wanted to change the constitution to change his post from a non-partisan symbolic one (which he absolutely is not obeying) to the effective ruler of the country.
Frustrated_me
Member
The 3 channels I have on have been repeating the same images over and over; The soldiers surrendering.
We get it, lol.
We get it, lol.
Not the same and you know it. Mubarak was apart of a military junta. Erdogan actually has lost elections.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Sure. But elected can mean vastly different things depending on the country.
Mr. Giggles
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When the coup organizers say they have control of the country, I would expect coup supporters to go out.... Is that so crazy?
I mean, if people wanted him gone then why didn't they protest in support?
Erdogan supporters were out in masse confronting tanks.... Why were coup supporters suddenly all at home?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
not to trigger godwins law
but Hitler was democratically elected
but y'know, an attack on parliament led him to become supreme leader of Germany.
but Hitler was democratically elected
but y'know, an attack on parliament led him to become supreme leader of Germany.
Ether_Snake
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They said they had control of the country AND were imposing a curfew. No one is dumb enough to run out only to then be painted by their neighbors the following days as traitors.
Of course Erdogan supporters would come out.
Sir Blaming
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Isn't being outside during a coup a good way to get killed?
maabus1999
Member
You can see it in the eyes and tone of a lot of the military analysts on the news, something is just really strange about this coup.
IdreamofHIME
Member
For sure, you have to kick him out the right way. Trying a coup against a populist leader only makes them a martyr too.
Just look at Yingluck in Thailand. She was an idiot puppet on course to bankrupting the country while her citizens were waging a bloody civil war on the streets of the capital, but she was still super popular with the poor majority.
The elite Bangkokians funded a coup and now the country is a political black hole with its tourism tanking every month while it's neighbours grow stronger as a result.
Now the Junta is about to run a rigged referendum that will allow them a legal back door to call for a coup whenever they want. They currently control all TV and censor social media, so the majority voting next month don't really know the consequences of what they will be voting for.
Any public dissonance before the referendum leads to kidnapping and beatings by the army. No matter age of gender.
Military coup, never the answer.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Was the answer on April 25th, 1974
Mr. Giggles
Member
I guess, but now look.... Erdogan is more emboldened than ever. So again I ask, if there is a sizeable population that opposes him, now is the time to act
Perhaps but again, erdogan supporters went out -
The coup troops declared curfew, the ones supporting them likely obeyed.
SilentRacoon
Member
Ah yes the good old "If someone else has said so, everybody did"
I was supportive of the coup, and when everything crumbled I felt sad for the destiny that awaits them(I don't agree with how they handled things,yet not everyone was firing at will at their own brothers), because I believe their intentions were honest, but ultimately it was a desperate move and unfortunately will be the anchor that cements his domain for the years to come.
This was actually something people saw coming from miles away, as seen in this article from may: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/7/recep-tayyip-erdogan-uses-turkey-military-coup-buz/
The unrest among colonels and brigadiers was known, I mean it is not so unreasonable when you are seeing your own country getting teared piece by piece, and when you are getting used as a tool to basically commit genocide against the Kurdish people.
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